TWG Turbo 35: A Small Gathering [GAME THREAD]

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Haze with a Z

It resolves leetic’s concerns imo so it is better than me just agreeing to cross because it doesn’t give leetic an excuse

???

I mean, a wolf would maybe relish in the idea of being the hammer? But half the time I don't even remotely understand what the hell Haze is trying to accomplish

[Haze with a Z]

Originally Posted by leetic

???

I mean, a wolf would maybe relish in the idea of being the hammer? But half the time I don't even remotely understand what the hell Haze is trying to accomplish

You don’t want me to be the hammer. But if we gave hammer to zenith you’d also say the same thing. If we all voted at the same time you wouldn’t have an excuse for this.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by leetic

???

I mean, a wolf would maybe relish in the idea of being the hammer? But half the time I don't even remotely understand what the hell Haze is trying to accomplish

This is beyond stupid

A wolf with a hammer means it is game over wtf?

[leetic]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

This is beyond stupid

A wolf with a hammer means it is game over wtf?

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what they are trying to accomplish? The best I can get at is they're trying to avoid the stigma of being in the hammering position?

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by leetic

Maybe I'm misinterpreting what they are trying to accomplish? The best I can get at is they're trying to avoid the stigma of being in the hammering position?

I think they are trying to appeal generally to what town should do which is not have a hammer situation but... that cannot work

All it takes is for one of the last towns to make the first vote, wolf can immediately vote and it is gg wraps

Doing it all at the same time Leetic already pointed out, wolf can slow roll it and do the same exact thing

[leetic]

Like, this may be even dumber than the "contradictory" thing

[leetic]

Like w!Haze has an easy win here with us crossing, why would they try to jeopardize that?

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by leetic

Like w!Haze has an easy win here with us crossing, why would they try to jeopardize that?

Maybe doesn't recognize it quite yet? I don't know if they fully grasp the position we are in

[leetic]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Maybe doesn't recognize it quite yet? I don't know if they fully grasp the position we are in

That's an argument against them being wolf, wouldn't wolves give it more forethought? Granted, I have no meta on this player besides skimming a couple games in MU

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by leetic

That's an argument against them being wolf, wouldn't wolves give it more forethought? Granted, I have no meta on this player besides skimming a couple games in MU

Lets look at Haze's activity throughout the thread

Would you say Haze has been consistently "aware" or attentive during times when they are neck deep in the conversation (eod last phase for example)? Is this something we could consider as dumbtelling?

[leetic]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

Lets look at Haze's activity throughout the thread

Would you say Haze has been consistently "aware" or attentive during times when they are neck deep in the conversation (eod last phase for example)? Is this something we could consider as dumbtelling?

I would say no. But would an unaware wolf make the moves they did? The MML kill would have required some awareness of the dynamics of the thread, for instance (assuming it wasn't you)

[Haze with a Z]

We are in f3 and we can move around votes. If anything, it seems optimal to try to move around so fast to get the wolf to slip tbh

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Haze with a Z

We are in f3 and we can move around votes. If anything, it seems optimal to try to move around so fast to get the wolf to slip tbh

If one tiny thing goes wrong the game ends for town, just why?

[Haze with a Z]

Originally Posted by leetic

If one tiny thing goes wrong the game ends for town, just why?

It seems like the best way to confirm someone as Mafia. Well not anymore since Its been said but before that

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Haze with a Z

It seems like the best way to confirm someone as Mafia. Well not anymore since Its been said but before that

It's the best way to give them the game lol

[Haze with a Z]

Originally Posted by leetic

It's the best way to give them the game lol

I can give an example today of how it didn’t really work because it wasn’t supposed to and I was town anyways in a 1v1 situation where someone voted and unvoted the opponent instantly so I wouldn’t be able to hammer. They were doing it for jokes though so slightly different.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Haze with a Z

We are in f3 and we can move around votes. If anything, it seems optimal to try to move around so fast to get the wolf to slip tbh

You cannot move around votes in this phase, I'm telling you, the moment one VT votes here the wolf WILL capitalize on it and win the game.

Your persistence about this is quite troublesome.

[Haze with a Z]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

You cannot move around votes in this phase, I'm telling you, the moment one VT votes here the wolf WILL capitalize on it and win the game.

Your persistence about this is quite troublesome.

Ok I’m sorry for not being used to it. And I think it would be stupid to mess around with my vote at this point after sharing my idea because at this point it doesn’t work anymore. Don’t act Like it is still a valid idea after I explain it

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Haze with a Z

Ok I’m sorry for not being used to it. And I think it would be stupid to mess around with my vote at this point after sharing my idea because at this point it doesn’t work anymore. Don’t act Like it is still a valid idea after I explain it

Drop this now, we barely have any time. Tell me who is wolf and why.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Haze with a Z

Ok I’m sorry for not being used to it. And I think it would be stupid to mess around with my vote at this point after sharing my idea because at this point it doesn’t work anymore. Don’t act Like it is still a valid idea after I explain it

What I need you to do other than talking about throwing votes out there and Leetic/myself's experience with one another, I need you to actually present all the feelings that are steering you in the direction of your intent to vote. It would help to also get the insight that would make you reconsider that vote.