TWG 194 - Game Thread

[flashflash account]

my government mandated computer arrived today woo

[Duskfall]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

my government mandated computer arrived today woo

The government bought you a computer wtf lucky is it good?

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by Duskfall

The government bought you a computer wtf lucky is it good?

I can run league on medium high at 80 fps capped, haven't pushed the specs further than that yet

it go vroom vroom compared to my old one, that's for sure

[Makilaz]

Vote Count:
5/1 @ 19:00

00:59 = GOOD
00:00 = BAD


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flashflash account [3]
DaBackpack, MixMasterLar, leetic

DaBackpack [2]
flashflash account, Duskfall

jessiebessie [1]
ShadoWolfe

Duskfall [1]
Bolth mannn

[ShadoWolfe]

If FFA flips red:
DBP gets cleared
MML read is unimpacted / not cleared because of the possibility of a wolf team trying to salvage a bad FFA play by having MML claim. In terms of overall outcome for an FFA!wolf team, he's caught regardless of whether he or DBP gets lynched first, so having a partner bus to gain fakeclaim believability is net positive once they're in the fake redcheck thunder dome situation they'd have been in. A red flip wouldn't make him look worse, but it wouldn't make him look better imo.


If FFA flips blue:
DBP is lock wolf
MML gains claim believability because, in a DBP/MML wolfteam, wolf!MML never places himself in the hotseat by fake claiming a forgotten block to save DBP for only one phase and draws all the SUS when he was in strong standing before. DBP/MML are never partners imo, so a blue flip from FFA almost locks MML as a roleblocker who had gotten blocked.

[flashflash account]

my main problem with MML is their behavior not matching their claims
it doesn't make sense to me that MML "forgets" to have roleblocked me, especially when they suggested that they thought they might have blocked leetic instead, who has openly claimed a 1x check anyway
MML's coming back into the thread looks very coordinated with DBP, especially given how they interact with each other after that
if MML is town I think dbp claiming roleblocker should actually make them more suspicious of DBP since the setup can't have 2 town roleblockers
combine that with the massive tonal gap of pre-claim MML with post-claim MML and you have a faker

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

my main problem with MML is their behavior not matching their claims
it doesn't make sense to me that MML "forgets" to have roleblocked me, especially when they suggested that they thought they might have blocked leetic instead, who has openly claimed a 1x check anyway
MML's coming back into the thread looks very coordinated with DBP, especially given how they interact with each other after that
if MML is town I think dbp claiming roleblocker should actually make them more suspicious of DBP since the setup can't have 2 town roleblockers
combine that with the massive tonal gap of pre-claim MML with post-claim MML and you have a faker

I see where you're coming from on parts of this.

How do you rationalize them as partners?

and why can't there be two town role blockers?


I'm more interested in my first question than my 2nd so please do give that one decent attention

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I see where you're coming from on parts of this.

How do you rationalize them as partners?

and why can't there be two town role blockers?


I'm more interested in my first question than my 2nd so please do give that one decent attention

I definitely have a better pov on the first question than you, just trying to figure out the most convincing way to explain it, because apparently whenever I try to lay out basic logic instead of shouting my opinion people still don't listen

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I definitely have a better pov on the first question than you, just trying to figure out the most convincing way to explain it, because apparently whenever I try to lay out basic logic instead of shouting my opinion people still don't listen

Try me. I'm not "people" lol I feel we've communicated enough to know how to understand each other so just type it out

Shouting your opinion won't get you anywhere here

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Try me. I'm not "people" lol I feel we've communicated enough to know how to understand each other so just type it out

Shouting your opinion won't get you anywhere here

hmmm

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Try me. I'm not "people" lol I feel we've communicated enough to know how to understand each other so just type it out

Shouting your opinion won't get you anywhere here

it's the play they have to make because dbp knows I don't have a check

[flashflash account]

basically, dbp knows I can't have a red check on them because they roleblocked me night 2, unless they had been roleblocked
so, dbp needs a partner to also claim to have roleblocked me night 1, since MML hypoblocked me night 1, they used MML to try bolstering the claim believability and circumventing the "dbp was roleblocked" scenario
they know their best shot at surviving is flipping me today and try to argue that dbp wasn't actually checked, so the only way to do that is to double claim and then try to win the counterclaims in lylo. Fortunately they played it badly enough where they look suspicious anyway, so massclaim tomorrow should lead you guys to lynch them anyway. Good luck

[leetic]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

basically, dbp knows I can't have a red check on them because they roleblocked me night 2, unless they had been roleblocked
so, dbp needs a partner to also claim to have roleblocked me night 1, since MML hypoblocked me night 1, they used MML to try bolstering the claim believability and circumventing the "dbp was roleblocked" scenario
they know their best shot at surviving is flipping me today and try to argue that dbp wasn't actually checked, so the only way to do that is to double claim and then try to win the counterclaims in lylo. Fortunately they played it badly enough where they look suspicious anyway, so massclaim tomorrow should lead you guys to lynch them anyway. Good luck

This makes no sense

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

basically, dbp knows I can't have a red check on them because they roleblocked me night 2, unless they had been roleblocked
so, dbp needs a partner to also claim to have roleblocked me night 1, since MML hypoblocked me night 1, they used MML to try bolstering the claim believability and circumventing the "dbp was roleblocked" scenario
they know their best shot at surviving is flipping me today and try to argue that dbp wasn't actually checked, so the only way to do that is to double claim and then try to win the counterclaims in lylo. Fortunately they played it badly enough where they look suspicious anyway, so massclaim tomorrow should lead you guys to lynch them anyway. Good luck

Did you fucking read what you typed out?

[flashflash account]

I honestly have no clue who the third wolf is lol
f3 should be interesting

[Makilaz]

Vote Count:
5/1 @ 19:00

00:59 = GOOD
00:00 = BAD


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flashflash account [3]
DaBackpack, MixMasterLar, leetic

DaBackpack [2]
flashflash account, Duskfall

Duskfall [1]
Bolth mannn

[MixMasterLar]

Should DBP and I coordinate blocks for this nightphase?

[MixMasterLar]

Actually probably not

No kill is on so if we pick two targets ahead of time and they're wrong thats just a chance for wolves to nokill and mislynch.

May not be a smart way to play this night phase

[leetic]

We're a little more than an hour to EOD. If you think Mikey is bad, I would recommend voting now, just to make sure that no crazy EOD shenanigans will go on.

[leetic]

Anyway, if Mikey flips bad, it doesn't look good for jessiebessie, since she wasn't around when DBP could've potentially been hammered