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Old 06-7-2006, 06:21 PM   #81
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I’m tired of reading “How do I get awesome at this game?� threads….

1 ) Scroll the screen so you only see about half of the total screen. C300 (The speed of EVERY song on FFR is not the best way to read many of the harder songs. By scrolling up the screen your reaction time is less thus making it SEEM faster and easier to read. (Trust me it does, ask anyone that has any high score and I’ll bet you they tell you the same thing.)

2 ) Try to hit ALL the arrows. Don’t worry if you get averages, they still keep your combo going. (unlike Step Mania) Your total score heavily depends on a high max combo so hit every arrow at all costs.
I'm not sure I agree with number 1 but who knows...I strongly disagree with number 2 unless i'm not understanding you clearly. I never would be able to pass Molto Vivace (or any other of the hard classic songs), Balloon Fever, or Nova Pulsar if I tried to get every arrow...

Good guide though this will help a lot of people...
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:06 AM   #82
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Default Re: How to get better at FFR

number 2 is an aid for getting a high score. Unlike SM ffr weighs your score heavily on your max combo.

I assume you can pass the song(s), but my goal is to help those get better scores on songs that they can pass.

No one would play songs they can't pass, that's just ignorance and doesn't help you get better at anything IMO.
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:18 AM   #83
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Wanna know how i got good at ffr?
I started out playing ddr years ago and here i am.
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Old 06-21-2006, 05:08 PM   #84
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Thanx! :B I'll remember that the next time I go for FCing noir remixed D:
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Old 06-26-2006, 02:48 PM   #85
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Thanks. It was very handy.

But I like using 1 hand better.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:53 AM   #86
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Sorry to double post, but the best place to scroll it up to is right below where it says like, perfect, good, average, boo, miss, you know, all that. Vice-versa if the arrows are at the bottom.

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Old 06-29-2006, 03:44 AM   #87
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Default Re: How to get better at FFR

Dude,

Thank you from the bottom of my newbie heart.
Your Tips work you are a very nice person.

Keep up the Work!

Is FFR the same as piano???
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Old 07-8-2006, 06:28 PM   #88
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It was really helpful.

Thanks, Iggy.
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Old 07-8-2006, 07:26 PM   #89
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Is FFR the same as piano???
Nope, not at all.
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Old 07-9-2006, 09:07 AM   #90
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Thanks. This helped! I use the one hand method. It comes natural to me. I don't think I would do well using two hands.
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Old 07-9-2006, 06:57 PM   #91
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I havent entirely read through all of this, but thanks for the help about halfing the screen! I finished some songs i wanst able to otherwise. I wasn't as frusturated...so anyway COOKIES FOR YOU! And i can't play 2 hand at all, but i don't regret it, It's a serious crowdpleaser to my buds who are ddr/ffr noobs too, hehe
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Old 07-11-2006, 05:30 AM   #92
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I tried the ''scroll the screen halfway down'' thing, and it made it 100 Xs harder for me. I think it's because i'm a musician, so I'm used to reading notes ahead, and my brain processes everything before I have to play it. It's kinda the same here. I play the stuff I already saw while I'm reading the arrows coming up. Blocking the screen doesn't allow you to do that, and it makes it waaaay harder. ..but that's just me.
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Old 07-11-2006, 07:45 PM   #93
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i dunno if this works for everyone but for some reason i do alot better when i hit the arrow keys really hard...
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Old 07-12-2006, 07:43 AM   #94
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drummerzac... that is possible on easy songs. Once you get to songs like CIA Rave, Uber Rave, Silence, Delirium, Gradeus... songs where there are SO MANY NOTES coming at you at one time, it makes it 100x easier when you half the screen. Why? You are only seeing half the notes, which makes it easier to read. Otherwise, you get overwhelmed, confused... very difficult to read the hard songs without the halved screen.
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Old 07-12-2006, 03:38 PM   #95
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That makes sense... but it's still the same amount of notes, only it's in half the time, so you only get half the time to process what's going on. It's like how music works. There's lots of notes, but you recognize patterns and it goes into your brain that you have to play that pattern coming up. While your brain knows you have to play that, you're getting ready by looking at what is coming up.
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This might be a weird way to get better at FFR but I get a cup of ice and put my knuckles into it for about 2 minutes until they numb..and it worked =]
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That makes sense... but it's still the same amount of notes, only it's in half the time, so you only get half the time to process what's going on. It's like how music works. There's lots of notes, but you recognize patterns and it goes into your brain that you have to play that pattern coming up. While your brain knows you have to play that, you're getting ready by looking at what is coming up.
The problem with songs with a lot of notes is that when the screen is full-size, people like me often get distracted by the notes that are coming up, so it helps if we actually aren't ready for what's coming up. (This will make more sense to you when you get faster.)
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That makes sense... but it's still the same amount of notes, only it's in half the time, so you only get half the time to process what's going on. It's like how music works. There's lots of notes, but you recognize patterns and it goes into your brain that you have to play that pattern coming up. While your brain knows you have to play that, you're getting ready by looking at what is coming up.
I've played music for about 8 years, I know what you're talking about.

But would it be easier to read a piece of music in cut time with 8ths and quarter notes or have the tempo be twice as slow with all those 16th's and 32nds?

It's the same song but they put it at a faster tempo because there are more notes per measure if it wasn't fast.

The same principle applies to here. When you scroll half the screen, you are essentially making the tempo twice as fast, making it easier for you to identify the notes easier, faster, more accurately.

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Obviously I'm not going to tell you that it's easier. Obviously you know what is easy for you and what isn't, but I'm just trying to expand on what Tass said about reading A BUNCH of notes at one time.
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Old 07-17-2006, 08:45 PM   #99
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I tried the ''scroll the screen halfway down'' thing, and it made it 100 Xs harder for me. I think it's because i'm a musician, so I'm used to reading notes ahead, . . .
I tried that before, too, and also had trouble. I suspect it may be for the same reason. I've been playing music basically my whole life, since I was like 5 years old, so I'm also used to reading ahead. I understand the idea that if you see fewer arrows you're less likely to get confused, but it didn't seem to help me very much. *shrug*

I see what iggymatrix counter is trying to say, but I don't think it works quite like that. Larger duration notes played at a faster tempo can sound the same as shorter duration notes played at a slower tempo. But in FFR, the tempo of the song is still the same, the 1/16 beat arrows have not become 1/8 beat arrows. I don't think halving the screen is like making the song cut time. The way I see it, halving the viewing screen is more like halving the number of bars you read ahead. For some people that's helpful, for others it may not be. Just my thoughts.
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You're all probably doing it on slow, easy songs. Once you get faster you'll understand how useful it is for much faster songs.

Reading music isn't very much like reading notes.
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