Double Credits for Multiplayer

[igotrhythm]

21992's at it again, paying out of his own pocket to encourage more people to get into MP. (See R1 General.) True, the playerbase was decimated by the offline period. Yeah, I know, devaluing the credit, but there are some arguments for it:

-Encourage MP activity and thus get more people able to get the Achievement Token for hitting Level 10. Apathy towards a game mode is just as good an excuse as whining about anti-skill to change a token requirement. That is to say, it's a horrible reason.
-Allow newbies to rack up credits more quickly (MP's raw scoring also has the incidental benefit of instilling good PA habits). Newbs are usually the ones to hop into prochat and demand an MP game while simultaneously hurting for credits--let's reward that.

One possible objection to this is that the beta engine multiplayer was never really hammered out, therefore would-be MP players are stuck with Legacy. I think Haku said once that lag got worse as a song went on, and was exacerbated with each subsequent level?

[21992]

Thank You, somebody finally understands my point.

[UserNameGoesHere]

You know what? Even though there's annoying bugs that affect multiplayer (multiplayer text chat is badly bugged under Linux, among others) I'd be in favor of this.

Of course what I think would encourage multiplayer even further would be fixing those bugs. I have a good feeling people just aren't playing multiplayer when it gives them bad lag or bugs out in other ways, when the single player doesn't have those issues for them or etc...

For me, for example, it becomes unplayable because the chat text bug starts interfering with gameplay (perhaps can't select a song or bad lag or etc...) not to mention confuses the hell out of whoever I'm playing with. I'd recommend whoever's in charge to check how line endings are interpreted because that's a likely culprit for that one particular bug and make sure you handle all cases correctly CRLF, CR, and LF, or 13 10, 13, and 10, or 0D0A, 0D, 0A, respectively.

[reuben_tate]

One possible (but highly unethical) way of getting MP alive again is to ban any user who hasn't played MP for over 24 hours, and such a ban would be immediately lifted after the completion of one song in MP. *can only think of desperate solutions at this point*

[UserNameGoesHere]

Originally Posted by reuben_tate

One possible (but highly unethical) way of getting MP alive again is to ban any user who hasn't played MP for over 24 hours, and such a ban would be immediately lifted after the completion of one song in MP. *can only think of desperate solutions at this point*

Reuben, please take no offense to what I'm about to say. I like you, man, and I want you to know it's nothing personal. But this is perhaps the single worst idea for the site I've ever heard.

[Untimely Friction]

Originally Posted by reuben_tate

One possible (but highly unethical) way of getting MP alive again is to ban any user who hasn't played MP for over 24 hours, and such a ban would be immediately lifted after the completion of one song in MP. *can only think of desperate solutions at this point*

Desperation aside you just went full retard bro.

[KrazyKitsune]

Originally Posted by reuben_tate

One possible (but highly unethical) way of getting MP alive again is to ban any user who hasn't played MP for over 24 hours, and such a ban would be immediately lifted after the completion of one song in MP. *can only think of desperate solutions at this point*

... Don't take this personally, but just exactly how desperate are you? Heh, no one should be forced to play multiplayer, and if they were, everyone would hate it, haha.... Then again, no one could hate it because they would be banned.

Myself, honestly the only reason I don't play MP is that it lags far too much for me to be enjoyable ( both Legacy and Velocity ), and there's usually hardly anyone online. Honestly, I think double might be too much, but I kind of am in favor of this idea.

[qqwref]

Originally Posted by reuben_tate

One possible (but highly unethical) way of getting MP alive again is to ban any user who hasn't played MP for over 24 hours, and such a ban would be immediately lifted after the completion of one song in MP. *can only think of desperate solutions at this point*

Please God, do anything in your power to prevent this man from ever being in charge of anything.

[igotrhythm]

Originally Posted by qqwref

Please God, do anything in your power to prevent this man from ever being in charge of anything.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=123886

God's gonna have to start earning his paycheck, it seems.

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by qqwref

Please God, do anything in your power to prevent this man from ever being in charge of anything.

No see if you ever get in power, things will go down.

And before you say any curt replies about me, I'm well aware of the idea I shouldn't have powers to ban ect. I don't want them.

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=123886

God's gonna have to start earning his paycheck, it seems.

[qqwref]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

No see if you ever get in power, things will go down.

Funny how I've totally been in charge of stuff before and it didn't cause any problems. And I'm only partially talking about FFR!

[icontrolyourworld]

Originally Posted by reuben_tate

One possible (but highly unethical) way of getting MP alive again is to ban any user who hasn't played MP for over 24 hours, and such a ban would be immediately lifted after the completion of one song in MP. *can only think of desperate solutions at this point*

This was a good laugh xD

[Mike Weedmark]

I like it.

[Vanilla Mnm]

99% of FFR would be banned lol that's a good beginning to the end

[arcade]

I think that you should be forced to play a song in multiplayer every so often. If not, you should be banned until a song is played. Anyone else like this idea?

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by arcade

I think that you should be forced to play a song in multiplayer every so often. If not, you should be banned until a song is played. Anyone else like this idea?

I'll address this, since it's apparently necessary for everyone to be sarcastic toward you, even when you don't show your face in the forums often.

While it might seem like a good solution, you run into the inevitable problem of computer performance, as a lot of people know that FFR does not run well, and it runs even worse when trying to play multiplayer. I can put this in a situation of my own -- I have a level 25 MP, but I won't ever play MP anymore because I simply can't. My computer won't handle it and I'm pretty much wide open for losing the work I put into it years ago. Banishment is overly harsh for those that don't have the capability to play properly. I know that I don't want to be banned from any part of the site considering that I am an active user that plays the game semi-frequently, and I run user-events every once in a while too.

In a nutshell: banning someone from any part of a site should be because they've done something wrong that makes them worthy of being removed, and not playing MP isn't one of those things.

[reuben_tate]

First of all, I just want to say that what I said earlier was meant to be taken as a joke, I didn't think it would be taken seriously and I'm sorry the trouble I caused >.<

Originally Posted by UserNameGoesHere

Reuben, please take no offense to what I'm about to say. I like you, man, and I want you to know it's nothing personal. But this is perhaps the single worst idea for the site I've ever heard.

Thanks, I like you too And I agree, it probably is the worst idea :P

Originally Posted by Mike Weedmark

I like it.

LOL. Truth be told though, the idea has some merit, although because of how unethical the idea is, it's not worth trying to argue :P

Originally Posted by Untimely Friction

Desperation aside you just went full retard bro.

I guess I did >.<

Originally Posted by Vanilla Mnm

99% of FFR would be banned lol that's a good beginning to the end

or 99% of FFR would be playing MP :P Not worth the risk though

Originally Posted by KrazyKitsune

... Don't take this personally, but just exactly how desperate are you? Heh, no one should be forced to play multiplayer, and if they were, everyone would hate it, haha.... Then again, no one could hate it because they would be banned.

Myself, honestly the only reason I don't play MP is that it lags far too much for me to be enjoyable ( both Legacy and Velocity ), and there's usually hardly anyone online. Honestly, I think double might be too much, but I kind of am in favor of this idea.

Yeah, and the whole ban thing would probably cause even more lag with the extra checks that would have to be in place.

Originally Posted by qqwref

Please God, do anything in your power to prevent this man from ever being in charge of anything.

Please only say this because you thought my post was serious. I hope that my clarification that is was a joke changes your opinion on me

Originally Posted by icontrolyourworld

This was a good laugh xD

Someone enjoyed it!

Originally Posted by igotrhythm

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=123886

God's gonna have to start earning his paycheck, it seems.

Well, I finally put in my hours:
http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...66#post3828766

Originally Posted by arcade

I think that you should be forced to play a song in multiplayer every so often. If not, you should be banned until a song is played. Anyone else like this idea?

Nice sarcasm.

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

I'll address this, since it's apparently necessary for everyone to be sarcastic toward you, even when you don't show your face in the forums often.

While it might seem like a good solution, you run into the inevitable problem of computer performance, as a lot of people know that FFR does not run well, and it runs even worse when trying to play multiplayer. I can put this in a situation of my own -- I have a level 25 MP, but I won't ever play MP anymore because I simply can't. My computer won't handle it and I'm pretty much wide open for losing the work I put into it years ago. Banishment is overly harsh for those that don't have the capability to play properly. I know that I don't want to be banned from any part of the site considering that I am an active user that plays the game semi-frequently, and I run user-events every once in a while too.

In a nutshell: banning someone from any part of a site should be because they've done something wrong that makes them worthy of being removed, and not playing MP isn't one of those things.

I'm sorry for that post and having to make you go through the trouble of explaining why my post was a bad idea >.<

[qqwref]

I think that you should be forced to copy other people's posts every so often. If not, you should be banned until a post is copied. Anyone else like this idea?

[badman7772]

If you guys are gonna talk about this idea, then we may as well just say combined credits by both players are awarded to both players. That way if someone fails out, then it'll lower the combined credits earned.

[igotrhythm]

Originally Posted by badman7772

If you guys are gonna talk about this idea, then we may as well just say combined credits by both players are awarded to both players. That way if someone fails out, then it'll lower the combined credits earned.

This would also encourage people to play against more skilled opponents. The result of the MP game is raw score based, but the end-of-game payout will still be influenced by combo. So we have a harmonious blend of both scoring systems.

+1 to this idea.