04-12-2021, 11:45 AM | #21 |
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04-12-2021, 11:54 AM | #22 |
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Re: TWG 199: The Reaper's Game -Final Remix- POST GAME
I was pretty hard set on my Haku townread, the counterclaim stuff was about the only way it could have changed.
haku claims, mellon_collie counterclaims, mellon_collie flips green, haku suddenly also gets the flip. the way the claim was done was just so beneficial to town that i didn't conceive that haku was actually scumming it up |
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it was pretty likely haku dies first there too
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haku flipping red basically absolved mellon_collie of all wrongdoing. |
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or would have, if it came to that
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that's usually how counterclaims work in my experience
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Other wolf then free to believe the real bp for fake brownie points which we saw with shadowgod, while the fake wolf can clog the thread up with bunch of crap to make it harder for people to see what's actually going on rather than building concrete case on mellon, which she saw and brought up. Seeing how reluctant people were to believe mellon makes me doubt that she would've ended up being believed by majority so I'm curious how far shadow would've been able to go afterward with only sunfan from what I really saw saying they'd vote him after thunderdome was cleared up. |
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i forgot about the game. looks like v was wrapped up in stuff too so i don't feel as bad about it. i don't plan on playing twg anytime soon fwiw
it was cool seeing a newbie (to the site at least) playing so i hope you come back tn |
04-12-2021, 04:13 PM | #29 |
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I think Shadow is really bad at narrative construction, and sometimes the picks at easier targets comes off a bit bad imho.
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04-12-2021, 04:22 PM | #30 |
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not for another week at least
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ffa was going to vote haku, dunno if shadow would've ended up doing so as well but there were at least three between sunfan, ffa and obviously raeko I kind of wish I knew how it would've ended up playing out
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Also thought the extension was funny considering nobody really used it
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I forget the name of the axiom, but when I played my champs game last season, the issue of fake claiming came up because I was INSTA'D as the JOAT in my game due to some fakeclaiming shenanigans. the axiom goes that in fakeclaiming situations, the first claims in a thread are more likely to be wolves
there's a huge rhetorical advantage you get by claiming first: it frames the current game state around your proposition and players start solving from there this gives the most advantage to the wolves considering they benefit the most from such a paradigm shift. if they claim first, it gives them that framing advantage. any delay in response just gives the thread time to start solving from the "solved" point of view with the new claim. we saw this happen this game with Haku getting advantage over raeko at first. obviously this is just one of those informal axioms like the Manti rule, so take it with a grain of salt |
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I don't know what the axiom is called either
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04-13-2021, 12:58 AM | #36 |
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The axiom is interesting. I think it would be much more likely from a proactive team to be aware of and make use of the framing advantage. I think a newer or more risk adverse team could prefer to wait to find out who the special role is to better gauge how trusted the person is first.
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The problem is that boldly coming out with a claim as wolf is usually very risky.
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when game
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