TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

RB is probably a wolf, yes

The SK thing... I think we have much better lynch targets today than DBP. I think we can leave his investigation for later

You guys were saying who could be a wolf between xel/RB.
What about both? I think I've posted interaction evidence, and their reads on each other are hilarious

[rzr]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

AA, what do you think about my zenith stuff from earlier, namely that he was faking the hammer and using WIFOM stuff to try to clear himself? Let's pretend he/rex are scum for the sake of example...where would that leave V in your mind?

I've thught about this, what it comes down to for me is that Zenith and Rex both firm planted a vote on V without going too much into it, I'd be inclined to think he had inside info and if Zenith were scum this would clear V. I'm not sure how much we can speculate about this tho

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

AA, what do you think about my zenith stuff from earlier, namely that he was faking the hammer and using WIFOM stuff to try to clear himself? Let's pretend he/rex are scum for the sake of example...where would that leave V in your mind?

I knew off the top of my head that it was nowhere near to the hammer. I'm not sure if zenith did but iirc he generally has a good idea of where the votecount is. I'll see if I can take a look at some of his previous town games and self-voting to get a better idea.

if zenith is scum that doesn't actually help me with placing V that much. In this post V mentions zenith while questioning ymia. The only interaction they had was here. What interests me more was the appeal that zenith made to V here. Why V of all people? Does zenith have a history with V from past TWG games? it certainly feels weird, and if zenith is scum then I think that would look bad for V. so the question is how intentional that appeal was (also I know my opinion kind of shifted as I wrote this, too lazy to rewrite)

[rzr]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I do read your posts. I never skim. I'm just having a hard time comprehending the logic and purpose of some of your longer posts.

That was dumb of me, I apologize yo're probably one of the few that do. I tried to organize things better this time.

Originally Posted by roundbox

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I want to hear from rzr and additionally see if he still believes this train of thought: Originally Posted by roundbox View Post
Doesn't make sense to me. Didn't you just say we could get more info from a Zenith lynch? Why ymia then?? Wouldn't seeing Zenith's flip give the absolute best insight into Zenith aside from lynching ymia?

I'd like to be linked back so I can retrace my thoughts, but I believe I was getting at that Zenith had been more productive so I didn't agree with lynching him right away, and that lynching ymia would have told us more about Zenith than the other way around? If that makes sense, but again if you can link me back to EoD it was a clusterfuck if this doesn't help

gonna hold off on this reads list for now I'm exhausted, but a quick synopsis would be

WOLVES: Red Blaster, XelNya, possibly DBP/V
HUMAN: me, plop, ymia, yosh, I think Zenith is pretty humany and I think AA is pretty humany
TOO NULL TO TELL: charu, choof, v, roundbox

I don't think I know roundbox's wolf game at all really and that scares the piss out of me lol

[rzr]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I knew off the top of my head that it was nowhere near to the hammer. I'm not sure if zenith did but iirc he generally has a good idea of where the votecount is. I'll see if I can take a look at some of his previous town games and self-voting to get a better idea.

if zenith is scum that doesn't actually help me with placing V that much. In this post V mentions zenith while questioning ymia. The only interaction they had was here. What interests me more was the appeal that zenith made to V here. Why V of all people? Does zenith have a history with V from past TWG games? it certainly feels weird, and if zenith is scum then I think that would look bad for V. so the question is how intentional that appeal was (also I know my opinion kind of shifted as I wrote this, too lazy to rewrite)

interesting, it seems we see this from opposite perspectives

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Agree entirely, but unfortunately this is what red blaster does. Ironically, he's more conciliatory and tries to put forth a greater effort in "solving" the game when he's scum...at least, he did when I was on a team with him.

Jesus fucking Christ.
F I N A L L Y some fucking confirmation

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Jesus fucking Christ.
F I N A L L Y some fucking confirmation

yeah it'd be great if you could help your own case instead of waiting for other people to do your dirty work

[rzr]

going to bed guys

I think choof is slipping under the radar, same with round(not that you guys aren't here, just that most people don't have much to say on you guys), I hope we can make more happen tomorrow

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

his reads list pushed him back towards null for me but his latest shenanigans clearly show that he doesn't care. he's been asking some questions (to seem towny) but doesn't actually follow up on them so they don't go anywhere. they're there just for the sake of asking questions. and instead of defending himself he just chucks insults/repeats things, opting out of actually presenting an argument. also pretty much 0 scumhunting aside from a d0 push on rzr that didn't actually go anywhere

Nice choof echo.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by rzr

interesting, it seems we see this from opposite perspectives

I phrased it poorly but I'm not convinced that V would be scum if zenith is because zenith could have set up that appeal to make him look bad. The real question is did zenith do that? That would make their alignment much clearer

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Nice choof echo.

didn't see choof post anything remotely resembling this

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

yeah it'd be great if you could help your own case instead of waiting for other people to do your dirty work

YOu have also done nothing to convince me that you're town aside from that reads list. stop relying on your meta to clear you and attempt to clear yourself

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

didn't see choof post anything remotely resembling this

Really? Because it's word for word what choof said in an earlier post.
Let me quote it for you

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by choof

rb is asking you questions and not following up on them

rb

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

his reads list pushed him back towards null for me but his latest shenanigans clearly show that he doesn't care. he's been asking some questions (to seem towny) but doesn't actually follow up on them so they don't go anywhere. they're there just for the sake of asking questions. and instead of defending himself he just chucks insults/repeats things, opting out of actually presenting an argument. also pretty much 0 scumhunting aside from a d0 push on rzr that didn't actually go anywhere

The copypasta is real lmao

[DaBackpack]

I'm pretty damn sure Xel is a wolf guys

[DaBackpack]

pretty
damn
sure

[DaBackpack]

not like cop-sure
but pretty damn sure

[rzr]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm pretty damn sure Xel is a wolf guys

Why

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'm pretty damn sure Xel is a wolf guys

Honestly that small back and forth we had seemed like he was placating me or something, Xel and I are usually at each other's throats so I honestly have no clue what that was about lol

[rzr]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

The copypasta is real lmao

I've said the same thing too, and your contradictory reads