jTWG LXXXIV: 8 New Players and Raeko Game Thread

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by dragonmegaXX

I kept thinking d0 was a new FFR tournament rank but Im probably retarded(Read; actually)

Someone want to enlighten me?

d0 = day 0, aka, the first starting day where people can post and make a lynch, unless it's night start, in which case it's usually n0 and then d1.

[dragonmegaXX]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

d0 = day 0, aka, the first starting day where people can post and make a lynch, unless it's night start, in which case it's usually n0 and then d1.

Good to know I actually am mentally ill because I definitely knew that like 12 hours ago.

[gold stinger]

d0 is accepted as the shitpost phase from my understanding, because there is no hard mechanic information to follow in this phase. It is all gut, or slip-ups. You can't go back and look at someone else's reads because no one's roles have been revealed, so instead of analyzing those reads, people shitpost.

[sanzath]

yeah ok, we don't have any mechanical information, but we can still make our own information

like, usually the mechanical information we have on d1 doesn't seem that relevant, and it ends up being reads based on interactions and guts anyway

maybe I'm dead wrong and just haven't played enough games yet to become cynical towards the possible d0 information

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by sanzath

yeah ok, we don't have any mechanical information, but we can still make our own information

like, usually the mechanical information we have on d1 doesn't seem that relevant, and it ends up being reads based on interactions and guts anyway

reads based on interactions and guts backed by mechanical information > reads based on intractions and guts backed by guts

This is where some players piggy back off of 'pre-game META's'. Actions & performance based off of similar activity in previous games to make a read on someone.

Most we can do right now is let everyone know when we like / dislike something, and tell others what we're thinking overall (reads lists), but stuff like that is generally difficult when a large majority has not contributed yet because it's d0.

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by sanzath

yeah ok, we don't have any mechanical information, but we can still make our own information

like, usually the mechanical information we have on d1 doesn't seem that relevant, and it ends up being reads based on interactions and guts anyway

maybe I'm dead wrong and just haven't played enough games yet to become cynical towards the possible d0 information

I think mechanical information can come out of shitpost. At least, I see some.

A secondary wolf objective (primary being having every town player die before them) is to blend in strategically to avoid suspicion. D0 being usually a meme phase before we can analyze lynches/mislynches, nightkills and interactions, it can reveal some players who either tried too hard to go with the flow or avoided posting altogether. In the previous game, I had a wolf read on svaz because it looked like she put up her shitposting roleplaying act just to sheep on DBP.

Therefore memephase isn't worthless, and unless a wolf is absolutely terrible, it's gonna be a mislynch anyway, and it's usually not a big deal imo.

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Therefore memephase isn't worthless, and unless a wolf is absolutely terrible, it's gonna be a mislynch anyway, and it's usually not a big deal imo.

mislynches are always terrible how dare you

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by sanzath

mislynches are always terrible how dare you

d0 mislynches.

They probably help more than actual lynches, depending on the game.

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

A secondary wolf objective (primary being having every town player die before them) is to blend in strategically to avoid suspicion.

I don't think I'd quite phrase it like this.

Yes, their primary goal is to reach parity: they want to have as many wolves left in the game as towns. So generally, they want to
* lynch towns
* not die
and while "blending in strategically" can be a way to do this, it's certainly not the only way. Think of Haku, whose playstyle is so, I don't know, different, and yet who constantly gets read as town. It would be quite scary if Haku was able to channel that same playstyle as a wolf.

So it probably ends up being a question of reading metas.

Which is a problem, because many of the players here don't have a meta yet.

damnit

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by sanzath

So it probably ends up being a question of reading metas.

Which is a problem, because many of the players here don't have a meta yet.

damnit

Funny coming from a person who has a meta.

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Funny coming from a person who has a meta.

yes, hold on as I meta read myself

the results have come in

I'm wolf

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by sanzath

I don't think I'd quite phrase it like this.

Yes, their primary goal is to reach parity: they want to have as many wolves left in the game as towns. So generally, they want to
* lynch towns
* not die
and while "blending in strategically" can be a way to do this, it's certainly not the only way. Think of Haku, whose playstyle is so, I don't know, different, and yet who constantly gets read as town. It would be quite scary if Haku was able to channel that same playstyle as a wolf.

So it probably ends up being a question of reading metas.

Which is a problem, because many of the players here don't have a meta yet.

damnit

Yeah, he'd basically be you though.

That's also a very big part of why you get killed early so fucking often lol

And your point doesn't really affect mine (I agree, by the way), I'm saying that what the wolves may do in "meme phase" may look bad in the future, especially as the townies are slimming down. It doesn't matter if they're trying to channel their town metas, trying something else out or just avoiding being scumread, since the game is so dumb at this stage, they are likely to fuck up even more when we start taking it seriously.

On a sidenote, I'll also say that right now, this is your best looking game, sanzath.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

That's also a very big part of why you get killed early so fucking often lol

bruh ya feelin' me

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by Hateandhatred

Yeah, he'd basically be you though.

That's also a very big part of why you get killed early so fucking often lol

And your point doesn't really affect mine (I agree, by the way), I'm saying that what the wolves may do in "meme phase" may look bad in the future, especially as the townies are slimming down. It doesn't matter if they're trying to channel their town metas, trying something else out or just avoiding being scumread, since the game is so dumb at this stage, they are likely to fuck up even more when we start taking it seriously.

On a sidenote, I'll also say that right now, this is your best looking game, sanzath.

(I thought this post was coming from MN and I got confused, gdi your avatar is screwing with me)

Yeah ok I agree with this post

[sanzath]

But I mean

when we're shitposting, we're pretty much not making any meaningful interactions or information

and who does that benefit most?

you guessed it

the wolves

SHITPOSTERS ARE ACTING AGAINST TOWN'S WINCON

LYNCH ALL SHITPOSTERS

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by sanzath

LYNCH ALL SHITPOSTERS

ehhhh..

There is stuff on the board for people to talk about now, people might have just not had time yet to take a look at the thread. Give it some time.

[MarioNintendo]

removing my vote

[Hateandhatred]

Originally Posted by MarioNintendo

removing my vote

[MarioNintendo]

Oops i mean unvote

[dragonmegaXX]

unvote