Song Corrections Thread

[Psychotik]

Originally Posted by jh05013

- The correct title of "Ascii Art Core" is "／^o^＼"

This was brought up on the discord before. If we want to use a more accurate song name that isn't just ascii art, the proper translation of that song title is "Fujisan".

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by jh05013

- The correct title of "Of course you Need and...NEED ME" is "Ofcourse you Need and nEed and neEd and neeD and NEED ME?"

This has been changed too.

[jh05013]

The following songs have inconsistent capitalizations. They should be either all uppercase or all properly capitalized:

FAKE PROMISE
LITTLE GOD CH@NNEL
11ELEVEN, TAKECORE OF YOURSELF, IVALTEK
BLUE ARMY (need to find image, but it's written in uppercase in vgmdb.net)
STRAWBERRY SWEETZ, HEY HEY MONKEY, SHIND BAD, STRANGEPROGRAM
PANTS
POWERPUFF GABBERZ, OTAKU SPEEDVIBE, BLUE NOAH

[justin]

Mentioned this to GS direct but will post here as I haven't heard from him and it's been a few days.

DubstEpic Symphony should be corrected to DubstEpic Symph. I don't know when the rename took place but it's uniform across Spotify, Apple Music, iHeart Radio, Deezer, YouTube, SoundCloud, and other places.

I've already updated the wiki entry for the song, just need the update in FFR.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by justin

Mentioned this to GS direct but will post here as I haven't heard from him and it's been a few days.

DubstEpic Symphony should be corrected to DubstEpic Symph. I don't know when the rename took place but it's uniform across Spotify, Apple Music, iHeart Radio, Deezer, YouTube, SoundCloud, and other places.

I've already updated the wiki entry for the song, just need the update in FFR.

fixed, appreciate the wiki work! Made sure to update both your wiki page & WV's wiki page with the correct name as well.

Originally Posted by Psychotik

This was brought up on the discord before. If we want to use a more accurate song name that isn't just ascii art, the proper translation of that song title is "Fujisan".

The true ascii art name would actually break syntax naming schemes within FFR, so it's not used. However, if there's backing proof for proper transliteration support being "Fujisan" for the name, I am ok with changing it to that, despite maybe confusing some players about what sort of song it is.

Originally Posted by jh05013

The following songs have inconsistent capitalizations. They should be either all uppercase or all properly capitalized:

FAKE PROMISE
LITTLE GOD CH@NNEL
11ELEVEN, TAKECORE OF YOURSELF, IVALTEK
BLUE ARMY (need to find image, but it's written in uppercase in vgmdb.net)
STRAWBERRY SWEETZ, HEY HEY MONKEY, SHIND BAD, STRANGEPROGRAM
PANTS
POWERPUFF GABBERZ, OTAKU SPEEDVIBE, BLUE NOAH

All changed until someone complains that they are capitalized differently otherwise (such-as capitalization for the sake of print, since most of these proofs are from the back of the record. Can't really argue with PANTS though since non-capitalization exists for that one).

[Psychotik]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

if there's backing proof for proper transliteration support being "Fujisan" for the name, I am ok with changing it to that, despite maybe confusing some players about what sort of song it is.

http://www.yamajet.com/archives/48
"[Ascii Art Core] ／^o^＼ (Fuji-san)"

Seems the official transliteration of that ascii art is "Fuji-san" with the hyphen.

[Matthia]

So a few months back, I noticed that the artist tags of all songs titled "Rain" has been removed (like Rain [YMCK]).



If that was the intention, there are a few other song pairs with tags that should probably also be removed to maintain consistency (if that wasn't the intention though, you could probably just re-add those tags)

However there are pairs of titles which consists of one having a tag and one not, in which I would probably do something about it:

(special case, B capitalization is different, so tags aren't needed regardless)


(another special case, however this time I'm pretty sure the capitalization for "memories" is incorrect, after doing a quick internet scroll)

These two pairs here are from the same artist(s)/have identical soundtracks, but different titles

Lol

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Matthia

So a few months back, I noticed that the artist tags of all songs titled "Rain" has been removed (like Rain [YMCK]).



If that was the intention, there are a few other song pairs with tags that should probably also be removed to maintain consistency (if that wasn't the intention though, you could probably just re-add those tags)

However there are pairs of titles which consists of one having a tag and one not, in which I would probably do something about it:

(special case, B capitalization is different, so tags aren't needed regardless)


(another special case, however this time I'm pretty sure the capitalization for "memories" is incorrect, after doing a quick internet scroll)

These two pairs here are from the same artist(s)/have identical soundtracks, but different titles

Lol

fixed. Again, let me know if there's any other issues by bumping this thread or DM'ing me directly.

[trumaestro]

Originally Posted by Matthia

So a few months back, I noticed that the artist tags of all songs titled "Rain" has been removed (like Rain [YMCK]).



If that was the intention, there are a few other song pairs with tags that should probably also be removed to maintain consistency (if that wasn't the intention though, you could probably just re-add those tags)

This issue extends to the following song titles (from my sleuthing):

Blackout
Chaos
Come With Me
DESTINY/Destiny (maybe okay)
Euphoria
Infinity
Inspector Gadget
Lost
Nebula
Overdrive
Resistance
Ruins
Snow
Starlight
Temple
tetris/Tetris (maybe okay)
Trip to the Moon (Club Remix) (put in a v2?)
Utopia

[SubaruPoptart]

Originally Posted by trumaestro

This issue extends to the following song titles (from my sleuthing):

Blackout
Chaos
Come With Me
DESTINY/Destiny (maybe okay)
Euphoria
Infinity
Inspector Gadget
Lost
Nebula
Overdrive
Resistance
Ruins
Snow
Starlight
Temple
tetris/Tetris (maybe okay)
Trip to the Moon (Club Remix) (put in a v2?)
Utopia

The artist tag removals were done a few months back by Kayla because of the fact that the "artist tags were redundant information." to my recollection. As for why some tags are still there is a mystery to me though.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by trumaestro

This issue extends to the following song titles (from my sleuthing):

Blackout
Chaos
Come With Me
DESTINY/Destiny (maybe okay)
Euphoria
Infinity
Inspector Gadget
Lost
Nebula
Overdrive
Resistance
Ruins
Snow
Starlight
Temple
tetris/Tetris (maybe okay)
Trip to the Moon (Club Remix) (put in a v2?)
Utopia

Originally Posted by Psychotik

http://www.yamajet.com/archives/48
"[Ascii Art Core] ／^o^＼ (Fuji-san)"

Seems the official transliteration of that ascii art is "Fuji-san" with the hyphen.

Alright, this is all up-to-date.

[Matthia]

Also here is a big list of files that contain [Heavy] tags, but don't have duplicates

Some of them may have already been resolved in this list, since I tracked them down a few months back

{Stay With Me} [Heavy]
Allison [Heavy]
American in Amsterdam [Heavy]
Beauty Is In The Eyes Of The Beerholder [Heavy]
Between The Sheets [Heavy]
Blooddrunk [Heavy] - (EDIT: Maybe hold onto this one since trumaestro has another Blooddrunk in queue)
Bloodmeat [Heavy]
Break out! Break out! [Heavy]
Brooks Was Here [Heavy]
Build God, Then We’ll Talk [Heavy]
Don’t Breathe A Word [Heavy]
Doomsayer [Heavy]
ETERNAL DRAIN [Heavy]
Eternal Nightmare [Heavy]
Faces [Heavy]
Flying High [Heavy]
Here’s To Life [Oni]
Lemonade [Heavy]
Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow [Heavy]
Monster Mash [Heavy]
My Darkest Hour [Heavy]
Shut Up and Let Me Go ( w The Ting Tings) [Heavy]
Suit Up (feat. Southpaw Swagger) [Heavy]
The Divine Suicide of K [Heavy]
THE FAUST [Heavy]
The Moment [Heavy]
The Space Between [Heavy]
Tom Savini vs Greg Nicotero [Heavy]
Turn Soonest To The Sea [Oni]
Two Sisters [Heavy]
Until You Leave [Heavy]
Vi Sitter I Ventrilo Och Spelar DotA [Heavy]
Work (S. Pitron & M. Sanna Radio Edit) [Heavy]
Your Grace [Heavy]

[trumaestro]

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

The artist tag removals were done a few months back by Kayla because of the fact that the "artist tags were redundant information." to my recollection. As for why some tags are still there is a mystery to me though.

Based on how the "Rain" issue was just previously fixed I figured it should at least be consistent. And it is now!

Originally Posted by Matthia

Also here is a big list of files that contain [Heavy] tags, but don't have duplicates

Some of them may have been resolved in this list, since I tracked them down a few months back

{Stay With Me} [Heavy]
Allison [Heavy]
American in Amsterdam [Heavy]
Beauty Is In The Eyes Of The Beerholder [Heavy]
Between The Sheets [Heavy]
Blooddrunk [Heavy]
Bloodmeat [Heavy]
Break out! Break out! [Heavy]
Brooks Was Here [Heavy]
Build God, Then We’ll Talk [Heavy]
Don’t Breathe A Word [Heavy]
Doomsayer [Heavy]
ETERNAL DRAIN [Heavy]
Eternal Nightmare [Heavy]
Faces [Heavy]
Flying High [Heavy]
Here’s To Life [Oni]
Lemonade [Heavy]
Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow [Heavy]
Monster Mash [Heavy]
My Darkest Hour [Heavy]
Shut Up and Let Me Go ( w The Ting Tings) [Heavy]
Suit Up (feat. Southpaw Swagger) [Heavy]
The Divine Suicide of K [Heavy]
THE FAUST [Heavy]
The Moment [Heavy]
The Space Between [Heavy]
Tom Savini vs Greg Nicotero [Heavy]
Turn Soonest To The Sea [Oni]
Two Sisters [Heavy]
Until You Leave [Heavy]
Vi Sitter I Ventrilo Och Spelar DotA [Heavy]
Work (S. Pitron & M. Sanna Radio Edit) [Heavy]
Your Grace [Heavy]

Maybe don't change Blooddrunk because there's [Another] one in queue idk

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Matthia

Also here is a big list of files that contain [Heavy] tags, but don't have duplicates

Some of them may have already been resolved in this list, since I tracked them down a few months back

{Stay With Me} [Heavy]
Allison [Heavy]
American in Amsterdam [Heavy]
Beauty Is In The Eyes Of The Beerholder [Heavy]
Between The Sheets [Heavy]
Blooddrunk [Heavy] - (EDIT: Maybe hold onto this one since trumaestro has another Blooddrunk in queue)
Bloodmeat [Heavy]
Break out! Break out! [Heavy]
Brooks Was Here [Heavy]
Build God, Then We’ll Talk [Heavy]
Don’t Breathe A Word [Heavy]
Doomsayer [Heavy]
ETERNAL DRAIN [Heavy]
Eternal Nightmare [Heavy]
Faces [Heavy]
Flying High [Heavy]
Here’s To Life [Oni]
Lemonade [Heavy]
Let It Snow, Let It Snow, Let It Snow [Heavy]
Monster Mash [Heavy]
My Darkest Hour [Heavy]
Shut Up and Let Me Go ( w The Ting Tings) [Heavy]
Suit Up (feat. Southpaw Swagger) [Heavy]
The Divine Suicide of K [Heavy]
THE FAUST [Heavy]
The Moment [Heavy]
The Space Between [Heavy]
Tom Savini vs Greg Nicotero [Heavy]
Turn Soonest To The Sea [Oni]
Two Sisters [Heavy]
Until You Leave [Heavy]
Vi Sitter I Ventrilo Och Spelar DotA [Heavy]
Work (S. Pitron & M. Sanna Radio Edit) [Heavy]
Your Grace [Heavy]

These are all fixed. Suit Up [Heavy] was changed to 'Suit Up (feat. Southpaw Dagger)' because it is a remix of Suit Up, and 'Suit Up' is also in-game. Some others were untouched because they had it already done, like THE FAUST for example.

Most of the reason this is a thing, is because these are Widget songs where the [Heavy] version of the file was moved in-game, but the [Standard] and [Light] versions of the same song have remained disabled. I made sure to include a footnote on the upload date for each song in the wiki this way to denote that it was [Heavy]/[Oni] at one point in time, for archival purposes.

[gold stinger]

I'd rather change it now and have it be accurate now than possibly having it accurate later depending on if a file gets in or not. It can always be changed later to something that will fit.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Blooddrunk has been in-game for long enough that a v2 would be more warranted than using [Light] [Heavy] [Another].

That being said, I'll work on these tomorrow. Way too late today to initiate a work session on them.

Edit:

Originally Posted by SubaruPoptart

The artist tag removals were done a few months back by Kayla because of the fact that the "artist tags were redundant information." to my recollection. As for why some tags are still there is a mystery to me though.

To address this: They are redundant in-game at the immediate moment that you're selecting a song. They are not redundant in every other manner. Searching for a specific song? Archiving? Searching for it elsewhere / creating the paper trail for a particular song? All of it, absolutely essential in the long-term.

Batch is a shit-show since it contains all the original titles for songs, and are never updated, despite it being the go-to repository for on-site archiving of songs in FFR.

[Zlyice]

While we're on the topic of [heavy] tags... Are there any plans to standardize light/standard/heavy/oni tags?

I noticed that Snake Devil [Heavy] is a difficulty 11 file, while its harder version is a 56 with an [Oni] tag. This seems inconsistent with the ranges typically associated with heavy/oni -- might make more sense in this case as [light] and [standard] respectively.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by Zlyice

While we're on the topic of [heavy] tags... Are there any plans to standardize light/standard/heavy/oni tags?

I noticed that Snake Devil [Heavy] is a difficulty 11 file, while its harder version is a 56 with an [Oni] tag. This seems inconsistent with the ranges typically associated with heavy/oni -- might make more sense in this case as [light] and [standard] respectively.

There won't be unless you wanted to remove the tag altogether.

difficulty editorial tags are directly based on each individual song in comparison to songs of the same name, band and cut. (Given that they only appear involving songs with more than 1 entry in FFR. If not, it should be corrected.)

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by Zlyice

While we're on the topic of [heavy] tags... Are there any plans to standardize light/standard/heavy/oni tags?

I noticed that Snake Devil [Heavy] is a difficulty 11 file, while its harder version is a 56 with an [Oni] tag. This seems inconsistent with the ranges typically associated with heavy/oni -- might make more sense in this case as [light] and [standard] respectively.

Widget files are also an interesting thing because while Snake Devil [Heavy] seems easy, there is at least one other disabled versions of it from when the widget would've been made (probably [Light]; possibly even a [Standard] as well), but that file never made it into the main game which is why a lot of files only appear as [Heavy] (ex. Divine Suicide of K).

[gold stinger]

Might as well make a post about this since song name changes/corrections is picking up steam after the re-linking project has went live and can actually fix song names again:


Two instances of 'Drum Roll, Please' is submitted to FFR.

v2, v3 etc. is reserved for the order of when the song was accepted and placed into FFR. The first accepted file is 'Drum Roll, Please' and the second accepted file is 'Drum Roll, Please v2'.

If they have the same name, band and cut submitted together one goes in as 'Drum Roll, Please [Light]' and the other goes in as 'Drum Roll, Please [Heavy]'. Add [Standard], [Oni], [Beginner] where needed.

If they have the same name, band but different cuts, use 'Drum Roll, Please [Full Version]' and 'Drum Roll, Please [Cut]'. Use [Part 1], [Part 2], etc. where needed.

If same name, DIFFERENT band, 'Drum Roll, Please [Antinomie]' and 'Drum Roll, Please [BERsERK]'.

If both submitted songs are different names, no need for a tag.

[jh05013]

- The author of Yukidokeiro Flowers is just daisan. zue-row made the BGA, which doesn't exist in FFR.
- Similarly, the author of Chronomia is just Lime.
- The author of Schur's Theorem is just w_tre. AT&HU just means that the song was inspired by pianists Art Tatum and Hiromi Uehara. I guess the song data doesn't need to change, but the wiki link probably should.