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  • jh05013
    oh hi
    Event Staff
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Nov 2013
    • 291

    #121
    Re: Song Corrections Thread

    Songs used in the latest tournament still have Funk genre, and the link to the authors are missing.
    mumei.sm: the minipack

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    • Mourningfall
      • Jan 2011
      • 1627

      #122
      Re: Song Corrections Thread

      I only just noticed this thread existed. x_x
      The artist for October and Toxiferous Dystopia is labelled "DJ Cristo" yet the information for DeVouR says "djcristo".
      Considering it's the same artist and he's identified as djcristo on (seemingly) the only other site he's published his work;
      Requesting a correction for the sake of consistency~

      Edit: Oh and looking through the FFR song list the artist's homepage "djcristo.co.uk" is long dead.
      If it's not too much trouble could the links be redirected here instead?
      Actually, since I'm on the subject: There are dozens of files throughout that list whose respective artists aren't linked at all.
      If it's okay with those responsible for maintaining and updating this information, I'd like to compile a list over the next few days of all the homepages of or places to get in contact with (whichever's available) those artists who were missed. ..Please~
      Last edited by Mourningfall; 02-21-2014, 06:17 AM.

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      • noname219
        FFR Wiki Admin
        • May 2007
        • 1694

        #123
        Re: Song Corrections Thread

        It's a known issue, here's what I wrote about djcristo :
        I believe there is 3 different DJ Cristo.
        1. DJ Cristo #1 is from Germany, makes Trance mixes and is pretty much known. (http://www.djcristo.co.uk/)
        2. djcristo #2 is from California and make Hip-Hop songs. (http://soundcloud.com/djcristo-1)
        3. djcristo #3 is from Illinois and makes DnB music on Newgrounds. (http://djcristo.newgrounds.com/)
        The last one is the one we have permission.
        bmah said this :

        Are you sure this is correct, or are you just doing this to distinguish from the more popular artist? DJ Cristo used to be an FFR player years ago, I remember. Here's his profile: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...e/D.J.+Cristo/
        So I'm not sure if he wants to be actually represented as "djcristo".
        It's debatable, but that was the name of his profile on Newgrounds where he posted the track. We could ask him if he wants his name to be credited as "DJ Cristo" (and I'll do extra research to find if he said anything about that). At the least, it's one way or the other.
        edit : I think I've found where it all began : http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...to#post2298443. Seems like at the time, they didn't bother with the name.

        Originally posted by Mourningfall
        Edit: Oh and looking through the FFR song list the artist's homepage "djcristo.co.uk" is long dead.
        If it's not too much trouble could the links be redirected here instead?
        Actually, since I'm on the subject: There are dozens of files throughout that list whose respective artists aren't linked at all.
        If it's okay with those responsible for maintaining and updating this information, I'd like to compile a list over the next few days of all the homepages of or places to get in contact with (whichever's available) those artists who were missed. ..Please~
        I've been maintaining links on the wiki about that. (although I'm not finished adding all of them, it's a long process)
        I've been thinking, instead of using links to the artists websites directly (because they go down very often, or sometimes we don't have any links at all), we could link their wiki page instead (for multiple links and background information, etc). Just an idea.
        (if you want to help out finding links, that would be cool, you should start in reverse order )

        edit : coolrun did the same in 2011 : http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...0&postcount=28
        I've missed his post, I'll review it and add those links if I'm missing any.
        Last edited by noname219; 02-21-2014, 06:33 AM.

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        • Mourningfall
          • Jan 2011
          • 1627

          #124
          Re: Song Corrections Thread

          I had noticed there were others who'd recorded under the same title, which is why I felt as though djcristo would be a clearer way to distinguish between the artists. Especially considering I wasn't able to find any of his work under a different name.
          It doesn't seem as though he frequents Newgrounds anymore and his account here has been inactive for quite some time,
          so contacting him seems like a less certain resolve.

          Though contacting him through aim or the email address he registered under is a possibility,
          so is just changing the accreditation entirely to D.J. Cristo and giving him an FFR Music Producer status.

          To actually answer your question bmah; no I'm not sure it's correct but before I learned he'd registered an account here,
          I really had no reason to believe he should be credited otherwise.

          Originally posted by noname219
          if you want to help out finding links, that would be cool, you should start in reverse order
          And thank you! It'd be my pleasure~
          Last edited by Mourningfall; 02-21-2014, 06:46 AM.

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          • noname219
            FFR Wiki Admin
            • May 2007
            • 1694

            #125
            Re: Song Corrections Thread

            Same name artists aren't really a problem at the moment here, we have no artists that have exactly the same name (even counting the blanket/limite permissions*). The goal is to keep the most precise information as provided by the musician. As far as I know, djcristo never released Devour under the aka "DJ Cristo" or "D.J. Cristo", I would agree with you that the name displayed should be "djcristo" for all three songs.
            We should give him FFR Music Producer status also.

            (bmah's answer was directed to me )

            * there's only Wipeout and W1p3out that could create confusion
            Last edited by noname219; 02-21-2014, 06:50 AM.

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            • Mourningfall
              • Jan 2011
              • 1627

              #126
              Re: Song Corrections Thread

              Originally posted by noname219
              Same name artists aren't really a problem at the moment here, we have no artists that have exactly the same name (even counting the blanket/limite permissions*). The goal is to keep the most precise information as provided by the musician. As far as I know, djcristo never released Devour under the aka "DJ Cristo" or "D.J. Cristo", I would agree with you that the name displayed should be "djcristo" for all three songs.
              We should give him FFR Music Producer status also.

              (bmah's answer was directed to me )

              * there's only Wipeout and W1p3out that could create confusion
              Could create confusion? I think it might have already.
              Both artists webpages link to the same deleted soundcloud account, it could be that they're the same artist
              or it could also be possible one of the files was mislabelled when it was submitted. (though I don't feel entirely confident about this just yet)

              After a little digging the stylisation for "WipEOut" should be "Wip'E"Out", whom we've a conditional permission to step (restricting 3 songs), but I couldn't actually seem to find a blanket or conditional permission for W1p3out amongst the artist permissions thread.
              Generally it seems as though once the artists permission's acquired the index is updated to include that artist and the site they were contacted on/their official website; but for w1p3out I couldn't seem to see anything. (The name shows up in the 8th post in the ABP thread under ingame song permissions, but there doesn't seem to be any links to the artists homepage or any indication that he'd given permission at all)
              It turns out he was an old school simfiler for SM, so we could have gotten permission through a staff member having known him personally, but there doesn't seem to be any observable proof.
              I was just trying to verify whether or not the two were one and the same, but it seemed to raise more questions than it answered.
              Last edited by Mourningfall; 02-21-2014, 08:11 AM. Reason: crappy syntax, I need to learn to proofread when I'm tired ^^

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              • noname219
                FFR Wiki Admin
                • May 2007
                • 1694

                #127
                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                Only useful link for W1p3out : (I might have some more on my PC)
                Battle Squadron - Menu (Juno Reaktor Remix) - Amiga remix by W1p3out. Original by Ron Klaren. Released 04/07/2005. Get it at https://www.amigaremix.com/remix/180


                I'm pretty sure they are the same person :
                http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/299871

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                • Mourningfall
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1627

                  #128
                  Re: Song Corrections Thread

                  So in the spirit of keeping things as precise as possible, is it worth changing one of the songs artist info?
                  Considering it's all a matter of how the artist personally chooses to credited, yet he's released songs under several different stylisations; they're both technically correct.

                  How ever the situation is dealt with shouldn't really make a difference, but I guess we should let Dossar know that he has the same artists permission twice in the blanket permission thread. I'd thought to myself that though it might be the same person they could be different projects, but Fantranstic seems to've been released under both stylisations so I guess there's no need to change anything then. Sorry I tend to fixate on the details too much and completely neglect the simple and direct solutions. Something just didn't seem right x_x
                  Last edited by Mourningfall; 02-21-2014, 05:33 PM.

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                  • noname219
                    FFR Wiki Admin
                    • May 2007
                    • 1694

                    #129
                    Re: Song Corrections Thread

                    Originally posted by Mourningfall
                    So in the spirit of keeping things as precise as possible, is it worth changing one of the songs artist info?
                    Considering it's all a matter of how the artist personally chooses to credited, yet he's released songs under several different stylisations; they're both technically correct.
                    It all comes down to the official accreditation. Since W1p3out has wiped his SoundCloud account (but can be seen here : http://archive.is/ftZyU), there's no way to know exactly how Fantranstic was credited. We can assume it was credited as "Wip'E"Out" because it seems he posted all his tracks there. (he had a Myspace too : https://myspace.com/W1p3out, but it's also down and he's on Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/W1p3out)

                    One thing for sure is that he never uses "WipEOut" as his alias (only FFR does), so I think the correct change to make would be WipEOut -> Wip'E"Out.


                    edit : WTF, it works (no mention of Fantranstic there, hmm...) I would still change his name to Wip'E"Out.

                    Originally posted by Mourningfall
                    How ever the situation is dealt with shouldn't really make a difference, but I guess we should let Dossar know that he has the same artists permission twice in the blanket permission thread.
                    Are you sure ? I don't see it twice.
                    Last edited by noname219; 02-21-2014, 08:32 AM.

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                    • Mourningfall
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1627

                      #130
                      Re: Song Corrections Thread

                      Post #8, under "Ingame Artists (w/permissions)"

                      Originally posted by DossarLX ODI
                      W

                      W1p3out*
                      Waterflame
                      We Are Scientists
                      Wheatus
                      Wickedawesomeful
                      WillRock07
                      WipEOut*
                      Wisp
                      Wlokos
                      Originally posted by noname219
                      One thing for sure is that he never uses "WipEOut" as his alias (only FFR does), so I think the correct change to make would be WipEOut -> Wip'E"Out.
                      Agreed completely,
                      sorry I was too busy focusing on whether it was also necessary to make any alterations to the other stylisation.
                      Thanks for your patience noname, I'll be back if I notice any other tiny errors or inconsistencies~ =w=
                      Last edited by Mourningfall; 02-21-2014, 08:34 AM.

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                      • noname219
                        FFR Wiki Admin
                        • May 2007
                        • 1694

                        #131
                        Re: Song Corrections Thread

                        Oh, that post is meant to redirect the musicians in FFR to a permission (some appears twice because that's how they are credited in the game). I was looking at post #2.

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                        • Crazyjayde
                          FFR Veteran
                          • May 2007
                          • 1169

                          #132
                          Re: Song Corrections Thread

                          We can always create some kind of quick topic for those discussions if people are actually interested in helping. Nice to see when anybody helps.

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                          • noname219
                            FFR Wiki Admin
                            • May 2007
                            • 1694

                            #133
                            Re: Song Corrections Thread

                            Or use Skype. :P

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                            • Crazyjayde
                              FFR Veteran
                              • May 2007
                              • 1169

                              #134
                              Re: Song Corrections Thread

                              Hey babe?
                              Do you wanna perhaps revise the thread and continue this beast?

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                              • noname219
                                FFR Wiki Admin
                                • May 2007
                                • 1694

                                #135
                                Re: Song Corrections Thread

                                Sure, hit me up on skype tonight.

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