TWG CXLIII: SK Loses Again Game Thread

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Charu

don't you mean this is the "zenith"?

oh man, two zenith jokes.

9 Ganon is just a spammer of upB and makes it hard to spike him.

Still very susceptible to chaingrabbing and like I thought, he is super slow but his moves if they land hurt. He caught me in a palm spam and I went from 0% to 86% give or take from 4 palms.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Yeah..after Day 3 when there was actual useable information.
When I get something hard and factual I can use, I'll go in on something..I don't really do the whole spitball and speculate on the unconfirmed.

but that would mean you get very little done during the early days. You can't always wait for the ideal situation , sometimes you have to speculate and see what people think

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

maybe that's how it reads to you but I was just cautioning DBP not to make assumptions about the setup

The same reasoning could be applied to you too.

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

The same reasoning could be applied to you too.

mm

this is the second time you've responded to one of my posts with "the same thing could be said about you"

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

but that would mean you get very little done during the early days. You can't always wait for the ideal situation , sometimes you have to speculate and see what people think

Sorry I never early game very well..?

[AragakiAyase]

reminds me of how me and my little brother used to trade insults

"You're X"

"Well, you're X too"

just seems like a cop out instead of saying anything useful

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Sorry I never early game very well..?

you could try harder instead of taking a back seat most of the time. Even if your early game is shitty it's better than sitting and watching

[Red Blaster]

"Let me caution dbp on something, and then do exactly the same thing he was doing, but yet when someone points it out; they're wrong for doing so."

- AragakiAyase, 2015

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

"Let me caution dbp on something, and then do exactly the same thing he was doing, but yet when someone points it out; they're wrong for doing so."

- AragakiAyase, 2015

nice

All I see is AtE style posting, and there's also something wrong with your statement: I wasn't doing what DBP was doing

[AragakiAyase]

how about you put in some work this game? we have two flips to work with now, give us some reads

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Right...what's your point? If you say that you have a history of doing it as both alignments then why should we townread you for it now?

The reply directly points to you and you only; nobody else matters in that post but you since you are overly paranoid that I am a wolf using my town techniques to be townread.

I do have a history of being able to do my normal sacrificial routine as either alignment, but what you are wrong here is that I was very close to dying and I was going to hammer myself. Not because I was in danger or fighting for my life, but because the way ymia turned his EoD style around I felt like I didn't need to push on him any longer until YOU and CHOOF rushed him to pres me.

You explained your reasoning for rushing ymia at EoD, but it is still unwarranted to pres a player that you are paranoid about and have this feeling that I am scum using my historical tactics to my benefit here.

I used the word unanimously because in some of my wolf games I have been unanimously townread for being sacrificial when it should be the case. After D0, I haven't been scrutinized as much as I'd hope for. You're the only one giving me issues.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

That's the thing: I don't think he straight up tried to hammer himself. I think he knew exactly what the vote count was and made it look like he tried to hammer himself.

You thought wrong.

You are exhibited extreme paranoia right now and I shouldn't reply to any more of your paranoid logic posts.

[Red Blaster]

1. Vendetta21 - V will always remain a ??? in my book, I don't know how to confidently come down on him one way or another and I think a lot of players are in the same boat. Other than his activity level being lower than usual, he did say he was in the process of moving, I'm not really seeing much else that's out of place here, but he's a null for me.

2. MrPopadopalis25 Town Innocent Child - Nothing really to state here.

3. XelNya - Idk people are reading him as scummy for not posting much content wise, but does he really ever? I think he's replaced his gif posts with fluff posts, but that said he is giving content to at least have something to go off of. I want to lean green on him, but my gut is weary of town reading him for some reason so I'll say null leaning town.

4. rzr - This is my second game with rzr so I don't know what is indicative of town rzr vs wolf rzr, I will say he seems a bit more hostile this game compared to last - last game he tended to just bring up points only to fold and agree with people over standing his ground on what he brought up - but considering last game he was a wolf this probably is an indication that he's playing a different alignment now. So that said I'm inclined to give him a town lean based purely off of my two game meta with him, but I just don't know.

5. _Zenith_ - I think Zenith is almost unequivocally town here and realistically shouldn't be pursued today over other candidates. I've touched on the potential frame that could be the YoshL kill given the amount of discussion on the YoshL/Zenith pairing that was going on in throughout D0 and this is my main reason for finding him towny other than his playstyle fitting the typical Zenith town game. There's been talk of his self-vote, all I can really add to that is that in the wolf game we played together he did hammer himself once he was outed, but honestly what can you do in that situation.

6. DaBackPack - A big ol null.

7. roundbox - I'm getting a fairly straightforward town vibe from Round.

8. Charu - Null. There isn't much to go off of here yet even if you look at Jame's posts so I'm not ready to give him a lean either way yet.

9. Yoshl Vanilla Townie Killed N1

10. Red Blaster - shitty town player

11. AragakiAyase - This is like my first actual game with you I think so I'm not really sure how to read you or interpret your actions which is why I've generally just been pointing random shit out. I don't personally like you this game, but I think the way you're posting and what you're asking of other players most likely stems from a town player's mindset.

12. choof - I was town reading choof 100% until eod yesterday. I still find that whole swing of the vote last minute and the "bait successful" post REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY fucking odd so I'm in the process of re-evaluating where I stand on choof. If anything he's gone from town back into the null pile.

13. yo man im awesome Vanilla Townie Lynched D0

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

i don't ever remember saying i would put in work, you're putting words into my mouth. this game falls onto a mix of moving prep and the release of fallout 4, so maybe it was implied but i never said it and in the past fews days have definitely not been thinking it at all

V should die from bolded statement alone.

[AragakiAyase]

do you have any scumreads

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

do you have any scumreads

directed at red blaster

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by YoshL

from re-reading a bunch of past games, ymia is giving off town vibes right now to me.

i can't say much about rzr and his weird opinion flips because i know i've done the exact same shit, even as vt

i'm pretty sure v backed off of me really suddenly, like he was making a case on how awkward one of my posts were and i said "yes" and he never addressed me again after that.

red blaster is still probably a wolf

backpack is still the sk

things

Looking into why YoshL died other than the bait soft, does it have to do with him claiming DBP as the SK the entire length of D0 phase?

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

directed at red blaster

I'd probably have to say it's predominantly choof and Xel right now as they are my scummier null reads.

[_Zenith_]

unvote

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

Even though you said xel was null leaning town and people like V and charu are pure null?

V will always be null for me.
Charu just hasn't had time to get enough content out there for me to make a judgement on him yet, I'm expecting that to change, along with my stance on him, as this day progresses but for right now he's null simply due to that fact.

As I said on Xel, my gut is just finding it hard to give him the town lean. I'd rather scum read someone like Xel based off of a gut feeling than to scum read Charu for being null.