10th Official FFR Tournament

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  • Tim Allen
    B^)
    • Jul 2013
    • 1129

    #1306
    Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

    i guess we all cheat from time to time no biggie A s h e r ^_^

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    • _Zenith_
      Accuracy Player
      • Mar 2011
      • 4629

      #1307
      Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

      Originally posted by M0nkeyz
      I mean they are highly suspicious, but this isn't really concrete proof.
      It's still ground for DQ because the higher division could easily hop on the other computer and destroy the lower division, which wouldn't be fair to anyone, and the other reasons are just as solid.





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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #1308
        Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

        Originally posted by M0nkeyz
        a) makes sense if they are roommates
        b) makes sense if one guy taught the other how to play
        c) this makes their tournament play highly suspicious, but it's not concrete proof of cheating.
        d) this could be a standard birthday if you are too lazy to put in your real birthday

        I mean they are highly suspicious, but this isn't really concrete proof.
        It's more than enough proof. Same IP is not a big deal; there are a number of people in the tournament playing on the same IP -- however, the odds of a person using the same exact -everything- when reaching any sort of level beyond D1 is very unlikely, and the odds of them having the same exact birth month, day, and year for a day that is completely arbitrary is extremely unlikely given the whole "roommate" claim. Their lack of differentiation is not my fault.

        To add a bit more to this, tournament announcements were done in mid September. There were no plays from early 2013, to about mid September of 2014 (when the announcement of the tournament starting soon had come up) on the A s h e r account.
        Last edited by TC_Halogen; 10-17-2014, 10:46 PM.

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        • minhtam2448
          FFR Veteran
          • Mar 2007
          • 411

          #1309
          Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

          A, no problem, B, no problem. C, I do see the problem, but providing video evidence of two people playing FFR should solve the problem. I don't understand how A s h e r thought he could get away with the whole "I don't have a camera" argument. It's 2014. The majority of cell phones in circulation today have a built in camera function that allows you to record video. I can easily take out my iPhone 4 to legitimately show that I am a real person and a bonafide D2 player. Yes, the quality would be extremely crappy for YouTube, but if the point was to provide evidence, quality shouldn't be an issue.

          Let's say the two players in question do provide video evidence. AJ's next move would probably be to question the whole birthday angle. In this case, to be fully in the clear, the two players would both have to provide photo-scans of government-issued photo IDs that show their birthday. They're toast if their birthdays don't match, as it would raise the issue of the D3 player hiring someone to stand in as the D2 player.

          So in short, even with the assumption that the two players were at least born in the same year, there was a 99.73% chance that they couldn't get past the whole birthday deal. Thus, it would be at least 99.73% likely that this was a cheating attempt in motion.


          Tournaments Won:
          The RPG Tournament (hosted by YoshL) - 8.1.2014 - 9.19.2014
          The FFR Fall Tournament - D2 (hosted by Kanzas) - 9.9.2014 - 9.30.2014

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          • woker-X
            .... :.. .:. ::
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Mar 2007
            • 1040

            #1310
            Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

            Damn.. D5 file is hard xD.

            And I already have mindblocks in the last section x.x

            I will try again in a couple days

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            • AndyTheAce
              FFR Player
              • Apr 2013
              • 14

              #1311
              Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

              Originally posted by hi19hi19
              I'm not going to lie, I'm rather happy that my file has held D3 off to just one AAA and a very messy 23-5-0-6 cutoff. Much more interesting that way, makes it enjoyable to watch everyone move around in position.

              Hope you guys are enjoying the file while you're at it
              I thought the jump from 50 to 52 was a bit low... but now it makes sense because I think the file is more difficult than a 52. It seems like more than a few people might agree with me, too.

              It's tough, but definitely enjoyable. Personally, I find the first hundred or so arrows a bit awkward to hit but the rest isn't so weird. Just easy to miss or drop a good on...

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              • TC_Halogen
                Rhythm game specialist.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2008
                • 19376

                #1312
                Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

                Originally posted by nolimits112
                How the hell is D7 always AAA or die? You guys are crazy.
                It's still a bit early.

                AAA or die situation is pretty common in D7, because it's hard to find a balance with flooding the game with a ton of really hard files and making the tournament challenging in the long run.

                At the end of the day, there will be extremely tight cutoffs the entire tournament for D7. I've done my best this year to get a good balance of extremely hard files while not having to completely destroy the game and flood people with files they have to just mash through hopelessly.

                Part of me almost wonders if it would be good to have a separate level ranks list for super hard files so that it doesn't feel like there's a complete flooding of the game with regards to level ranks, but eh, what are you going to do?

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                • kmay
                  Don't forget me
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6526

                  #1313
                  Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

                  5-0-1-3 god damn it lol

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                  • DossarLX ODI
                    Batch Manager
                    Game Manager
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15004

                    #1314
                    Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

                    Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                    It's still a bit early.

                    AAA or die situation is pretty common in D7, because it's hard to find a balance with flooding the game with a ton of really hard files and making the tournament challenging in the long run.

                    At the end of the day, there will be extremely tight cutoffs the entire tournament for D7. I've done my best this year to get a good balance of extremely hard files while not having to completely destroy the game and flood people with files they have to just mash through hopelessly.

                    Part of me almost wonders if it would be good to have a separate level ranks list for super hard files so that it doesn't feel like there's a complete flooding of the game with regards to level ranks, but eh, what are you going to do?
                    An alternative that's been suggested before is to have the D7 files be the same as the D6 files up to something like Round 4 so that way a few files could be saved for other divisions in the later rounds instead of being incinerated by D7 in a few minutes. Then as the D7 songs get much harder, they could be special tournament tokens rather than being public (this fits under your separate level ranks list for super hard files idea).

                    D7 isn't the only division that plays this game and it is unfair to flood files that high frequently.
                    Originally posted by hi19hi19
                    oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file

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                    • TC_Halogen
                      Rhythm game specialist.
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 19376

                      #1315
                      Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

                      All active tournament participants should have received a private message about unrecorded scores handling. Please review it, it will make everyone's lives a bit easier.

                      Thanks!

                      EDIT: minus the following people: African Anger; Coldreaver; Dave4xp; evil smoke; GammaBlaster; HeZe; Kiko078168

                      I will be visiting your profiles and pasting the message.
                      Last edited by TC_Halogen; 10-18-2014, 08:49 AM.

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                      • PhantomPuppy
                        Washed and Irrelevant D7
                        • May 2012
                        • 1808

                        #1316
                        Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

                        Originally posted by AndyTheAce
                        I thought the jump from 50 to 52 was a bit low... but now it makes sense because I think the file is more difficult than a 52. It seems like more than a few people might agree with me, too.

                        It's tough, but definitely enjoyable. Personally, I find the first hundred or so arrows a bit awkward to hit but the rest isn't so weird. Just easy to miss or drop a good on...
                        oh good lord, this file givin me some serious mind blocks. definitely a hard one hi19 T.T i've played plenty of 60's that are faster, but this one is so awkward that it's very tricky and more difficult in a strange way... it does not help AT ALL that one of the background noises towards the beginning of the song sounds like someone is calling my name. creeps me out every time.
                        Last edited by PhantomPuppy; 10-18-2014, 09:11 AM.

                        10th OT (D3): 13th
                        11th OT (D6): 11th
                        12th OT (D6): 6th
                        13th OT (D7): 31st
                        14th OT (D7): 25th
                        15th OT (D7): LAST PLACE LOL
                        16th OT (D7): LAST PLACE LOL


                        Originally posted by Funnygurl555
                        you know what they say

                        under all the rust is really shiny...……… metal

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                        • Rapta
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                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1948

                          #1317
                          Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

                          D7 is fun.
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                          • SuperNOVA Gian
                            FFR Veteran
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 355

                            #1318
                            Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

                            D5 file is hard!, having mindblocks with the jumpstreams, If a use mirror the rolls are easier but I feel disadvantaged in the other sections and viceversa

                            Like a pornstar in a gangbang, fucked from all sides

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                            • SK8R43
                              D7 Elite Keymasher
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 4683

                              #1319
                              Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

                              First song, first try, random, fuck you. goodbye Blue :P
                              Last edited by SK8R43; 10-18-2014, 06:33 PM.
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                              • Toxophilis
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                                • Dec 2006
                                • 501

                                #1320
                                Re: 10th Official FFR Tournament

                                really hope 6g is enough to go through

                                Originally posted by AsphyxZero
                                My ideal evening is being balls deep in my own ass.

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