Rock Band 2

[Afrobean]

They're gonna have a bunch of DLC available for free when you buy RB2. So you'll get a mess on the disc, then you can turn around and download a bunch more without any cost at all.

I would be very surprised if Freezepop didn't pop up on either the disc or the free DLC.

Also, is it just me or is the idea of the split strum bar for a bass at odds with the style of the note charts for bass parts? Like, "wow now i can pluck up instead of strum down oh wait i could always do that oh well now i can pluck down 2x as fast oh wait that doesnt have anything to do with bass parts because they never go any faster than quarter notes lul". Would it be beneficial to guitar charts though? I don't pretend to be on the expert level there, so I can't say for certain, but I would think it wouldn't help.

I'm still waiting on news about the for-reals guitar. I really hope they nail it how I've been dreaming of. Plenty of people have mod'd guitars into functioning controllers, but not a one of them has handled the frets the way my dream is. I just want it to be the same as the RB strat, wooden fingerboard/fret buttons, and frets between the buttons. I don't think that would be too hard to manage, even if it's not as easy as just cutting holes in the finger board and shoving GH buttons through them.

[SethSquall]

I still think the GH1 less talk more rokk is the best Freezepop song and have been waiting for ages to see it on GH2/GH3 DLC or Rockband DLC.

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Also, is it just me or is the idea of the split strum bar for a bass at odds with the style of the note charts for bass parts? Like, "wow now i can pluck up instead of strum down oh wait i could always do that oh well now i can pluck down 2x as fast oh wait that doesnt have anything to do with bass parts because they never go any faster than quarter notes lul". Would it be beneficial to guitar charts though? I don't pretend to be on the expert level there, so I can't say for certain, but I would think it wouldn't help.

When me and my mate have been playing bass, we really did think how awesome it would be to just upstrum with our index and middle fingers effectively like a real bass. You couldn't do it effectively at all. You could just strum up yea, but it was really extremely hard to do so and you'd miss a lot, especially with triples. It was also very difficult to strum up with your index for one and then strum up with your middle for the next. It was just awkward and didn't work. I found you'd flick up but the big strum bar wouldn't flick down enough before you used your other finger for the next upstrum. And so it wouldn't work well.

With a split strum bar you can assign one finger to each strum bar, you can then start strumming up and down without needing to wait for the bar to come back down.

I think it work extremely well.

[macgravel]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

"wow now i can pluck up instead of strum down oh wait i could always do that oh well now i can pluck down 2x as fast oh wait that doesnt have anything to do with bass parts because they never go any faster than quarter notes lul"

No clue if this is sarcasm or a joke, but the first time I played Green Grass and High Tides, I played it on Bass. Watch the guy on the left. There's also Run To The Hills, which has a harder than "quarter notes" chart.

[Zamiax]

What's the point, when GH4 comes out all the RB2 fans are gonna realize how much better it is, they are all gonna go sell their RB2 stuff to buy GH4

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by Zamiax

What's the point, when GH4 comes out all the RB2 fans are gonna realize how much better it is, they are all gonna go sell their RB2 stuff to buy GH4

can you please piss off and stop spewing fanboy gibberish in the wrong thread

[ddr_f4n]

Originally Posted by Serverkiller

GUITAR HERO PWNS ROCK BAND, GUITAR HERO FTW!!!

Originally Posted by Zamiax

What's the point, when GH4 comes out all the RB2 fans are gonna realize how much better it is, they are all gonna go sell their RB2 stuff to buy GH4

This is like Xbox 360 vs PS3 vs Wii, except Rock Band is Xbox 360, GH4 is PS3, and Rock Revolution is the Wii.

All of the games have their own features. And fanboys will pop out to defend their life on their own opinion to be heard for others to have the same opinion as them.

[macgravel]

Originally Posted by Zamiax

What's the point, when GH4 comes out all the RB2 fans are gonna realize how much better it is, they are all gonna go sell their RB2 stuff to buy GH4

I wouldn't. I don't care how much 'better' you think Guitar Queero is, I won't ever buy another one after GH3.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by macgravel

No clue if this is sarcasm or a joke, but the first time I played Green Grass and High Tides, I played it on Bass. Watch the guy on the left. There's also Run To The Hills, which has a harder than "quarter notes" chart.

It was sarcasm... I'm more than aware that some songs will have bass parts which are more difficult than what I said. I was just pointing out how absurdly easy most songs are on bass; I seem to recall failing guitar on hard, yet comboing full songs on bass expert.

When me and my mate have been playing bass, we really did think how awesome it would be to just upstrum with our index and middle fingers effectively like a real bass. You couldn't do it effectively at all. You could just strum up yea, but it was really extremely hard to do so and you'd miss a lot, especially with triples. It was also very difficult to strum up with your index for one and then strum up with your middle for the next. It was just awkward and didn't work. I found you'd flick up but the big strum bar wouldn't flick down enough before you used your other finger for the next upstrum. And so it wouldn't work well.

Meh. I still don't think it's all that important. Not like you have anything to gain by trying to play it like you would a bass, rather than playing it like you do a video game controller. I mean, when you're playing guitar parts, you're not necessarily doing it the way you would on a real guitar.

[macgravel]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

It was sarcasm...

Yeah, just checking, hahaha.

[SethSquall]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Meh. I still don't think it's all that important. Not like you have anything to gain by trying to play it like you would a bass, rather than playing it like you do a video game controller. I mean, when you're playing guitar parts, you're not necessarily doing it the way you would on a real guitar.

True. I guess we would love to do it as strumming up and down was more guitar like and not bass like. Maybe we thought it would be cool to make bass seem more fun.

All I know is we thought it would be cool to just finger pick upstrum like a real bass but the guitar made it hard. Then I hear that this madcatz one will have a split strum bar making it a lot easier so I am really pumped about it.

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by Zamiax

What's the point, when GH4 comes out all the RB2 fans are gonna realize how much better it is, they are all gonna go sell their RB2 stuff to buy GH4

Originally Posted by Tokzic

can you please piss off and stop spewing fanboy gibberish in the wrong thread

+1.

Don't make an assumption that when a game comes out, it's gonna be awesome. Everyone thought that about GH3, and well--it was ok; not worthy of OMGTHISAWESOMEFAP kind of a game.

Just let the games come out, and then you can make this irrelevant judgment when everyone else has a definitive opinion.

Also--as far as my preference, I'm waiting for RB2--GH3 turned me away from the series once the song difficulty got retardedly difficult (still worth picking up to get some serious practice before playing some RB online. ).

[three17s]

I find it kind of amusing how most, if not all, Guitar Hero players' jaws dropped at the Rock Band 2 setlist. Honestly, it's amazing. Harmonix has me sold on a Rock Band 2 set, but Guitar Hero has yet to pull me, even with offering a 6-note drumset. I personally feel that Rock Band players are more interested in the game, music, and having fun, much in comparison to Guitar Hero's competitive nature, while not saying Rock Band isn't competitive either.

Also, I am surprised as well that Freezepop doesn't have a song on-disc, same with Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives and The Police.

[EnR]

I'm curious on how the ION will work.... theres still only 4 things on the screen and the ION has 3 cymbals and 4 drums

[Sir_Thomas]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

+1.

Don't make an assumption that when a game comes out, it's gonna be awesome. Everyone thought that about GH3, and well--it was ok; not worthy of OMGTHISAWESOMEFAP kind of a game.

Just let the games come out, and then you can make this irrelevant judgment when everyone else has a definitive opinion.

Also--as far as my preference, I'm waiting for RB2--GH3 turned me away from the series once the song difficulty got retardedly difficult (still worth picking up to get some serious practice before playing some RB online. ).

Im confused with what you call retarded difficult though. I picked up Guitar Hero and can get to playing Expert within about an hour or so of practice (Not ALL expert.) and still do pretty decent.

People complained the songs were getting to easy for DDR because they burned them into the ground.. The game is actually giving a damn about the hardcore players who dont want to sit FCing the same songs over and over again because they already raped the game into the ground.


Put it this way, if you spent the same ammount of time playing FFR or Stepmania, you wouldnt be complaining about those hard songs. When I first started FFR I was like "What the ****, no way in hell im doing master songs ever." but I was wrong.

Now if they dont evenly spread the ammount of easy songs compared to difficult (Super skill curve FTW)... then I would understand; but if its too hard.. Just get better

[Nickels000]

Originally Posted by EnR

I'm curious on how the ION will work.... theres still only 4 things on the screen and the ION has 3 cymbals and 4 drums

The cymbals do the same thing as the corresponding drum pad, but you can be stylish and use the cymbals to feel more like a drummer and look cool at the same time. Rock Band 2 will also incorporate a way to teach you to play drums so you can go from Rock Band drums to real drums.

Have fun with this:
http://www.drumrocker.com
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[Afrombean]

Originally Posted by EnR

I'm curious on how the ION will work.... theres still only 4 things on the screen and the ION has 3 cymbals and 4 drums

It'll be like what I said: the cymbal notes will have a different graphic when scrolling. Sort of like a HO/PO, except probably more noticeable.

Or it'll be exactly the same on screen and you can play either colored part when that color comes. That'd be lame though.

EDIT: and the problem with GH3 is the way they did charts. They created artificial difficulty. The game became about being hard instead of about being fun.

[NFD]

I still haven't played the first, seeing Synth sing Californication did not help.

[jellygod]

lol im gonna buy gh4, rockband 2, and rock revolution

[dore]

Originally Posted by Afrombean

Or it'll be exactly the same on screen and you can play either colored part when that color comes. That'd be lame though.

That's what it is. All of the extras are designed to be just that: extras; ergo, optional. It still is going to look like RB1, and be completely functional with RB1 peripherals.

Also there's going to be an official double-bass add-on. Dunno why it's needed though 'cause they'll most likely continue to chart songs with double bass with the left foot removed.

[Afrombean]

Originally Posted by dore

That's what it is. All of the extras are designed to be just that: extras; ergo, optional. It still is going to look like RB1, and be completely functional with RB1 peripherals.

It wouldn't be hard for the controller to tell the console if cymbals are attached or not, and using this information, it could decide whether to differentiate the notes in the chart or not.

Also: it could just use colored squares and circles, and just tell the player to just hit the pad if that's all they've got.

Optional does not mean it can't be fully functional. It is entirely possible for them to make the thing fully backward and forward compatible, and still maintain additional functionality on the new hardware.

Also there's going to be an official double-bass add-on. Dunno why it's needed though 'cause they'll most likely continue to chart songs with double bass with the left foot removed.

Where did you hear this? The only mention of it I've heard is for the Ion kit, and as far as I was able to guess, it wouldn't be supported in game, or, if it is, would work just the same as the first pedal, meaning it'd be a "double setup". That would be dumb as hell.