The official 3rd Style thread - Page 8

**xObserveRx** · 01-24-2006, 12:21 PM

I think it's pretty clear that all the high score owners are the only ones who're fighting to keep the game the way it is now. They're obviously afraid of competition based on the fact that they somehow find themselves superior because they can play a totally out of sync game on C300.

It is true, PA'ing on C300 is much harder than PA'ing on 3x or 4x or C600 or w/e. But just because that could be implemented doesn't mean the challenge is gone. What would be gone though, would be 10 or so people constantly owning high scores due to the fact that these are the people who have sat around all day throwing all sense of sync out the window and have learned to play songs that are just well... horribly synced. The NEW challenge would become COMPETING FOR HIGH SCORES WITH OTHER PLAYERS. Um... is it just me, or was this NOT the original idea for the game?

I agree with a few of the changes. Boos when there is nothing there is stupid. It doesn't make the game original, it shows a retarded coding scheme. Take that out.

and most importantly, RESYNC EVERY SONG PROPERLY. There's nothing worse than playing a MUSIC AND RHYTHM GAME to arrows that aren't even synced to the MUSIC. It's just completely retarded and should've been fixed long, long ago.

Add speed mods. I think it would be cool if you were required to unlock each mod seperately, plus it would allow the whiners to remain on the high score lists for a bit longer. "But the people will just buy them with their 324324645367547687645 credits right away!" O rly? reset everyone's credit count to 0. It's not like people don't play all day long anyways. And, once again, this will allow the whiners to keep their high scores for a bit longer.

Now, if the whiners are STILL whining about not being the best anymore, implement a seperate high scores list for the speed mods. That way the whiners can still enjoy the fact that they think they're better based on playing slow.

**female** · 01-24-2006, 12:31 PM

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
change away
i think you've heard us say dont bitch about n ot being able to play without speedmods, i dont think any of us have ever been against the implementation of speedmods though.
whatever, change away, it cant get worse.

iwishiknew · 01-24-2006, 07:28 PM

you know an easy way to stop people from cheating using speed mods would be to simply have them modify the score.......

.5 times the normal speed= .5 times the normal score
1 times the normal speed= 1 times the normal score
1.5 times the normal speed= 1.5 times the normal score

and so on

Ps. Where are these screenshots?

**talisman** · 01-24-2006, 09:21 PM

Yeah dude that wouldn't work. First off the vast majority of the community considers speed mods perfectly legit and second off alot of people would do better with them on than off so your system of weighting higher speed mods with higher values would be counterproductive.

nforcer06164 · 01-25-2006, 07:56 AM

1.5 speed may make some songs easier rather than harder. .5 speed generally makes songs harder. So a scoring based on speed mods really wouldn't work, as Talisman said. Plus, if all the songs are on C300, where's the need for speed mods?

And there are no screenshots. Chardish posted some, but LD caught them, because they weren't supposed to be up, and deleted them. Very few people (if any), saw them. The whole thing is tightly under wraps.

**Chromer** · 01-25-2006, 01:32 PM

I remember seeing them before LD went all Nazi on us.

**aperson** · 01-25-2006, 06:02 PM

They weren't even functional code anyway, just screenshots. Yes, the graphics look very nice. Chardish did an ace job on them.

**female** · 01-29-2006, 06:56 AM

If there's "Virtually no development to 3rd style" except for the graphics, and none of the things LD keeps implying will be fixed in 3rd style, such as a bunch of the multiplayer bugs, not very many people are going to be pleased. lol

Afrobean · 01-29-2006, 07:54 AM

Meh. I think ap is just trying to get people riled up by exaggerating how little work is done with it.

**aperson** · 01-30-2006, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Meh. I think ap is just trying to get people riled up by exaggerating how little work is done with it.

Or I'm just pissed off myself at how little visible work is being done on 3rd Style.

Tps222 · 02-9-2006, 01:25 PM

Rome wasn't built in a day.

Who cares if is going to take a bit longer, you guys are all complaining about the current bugs in the game. I'd rather have them take there time and make sure the release is of quality and addresses what is needed. This way, we won't need more edits.

**talisman** · 02-15-2006, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synthlight

3rd Style development started back in the summer / early fall and has continued to move forward but unfortunately slowed to a crawl for the last 2 months. As I have started to work more normal hours this week, this pace has picked up. 3rd style is at the top of my priority list. Besides having a completely new interface, 3rd style will boast MANY new songs upon release and include many features that have been requested for a long LONG time like speed mods, skin changes and BPM change support. I will personally be working on my DWI converter so that it can handle BPM changes. I expect 3rd Style to be released sometime within the month of April. I will say April 31st but it may be sooner depending on my schedule.
This release will be the most radical change for FFR within the last 2 years. Chardish, LD and I (with the input of others) have worked to lay the foundation of the new interface. I admire Chardish for not getting fed up with me everytime I requested visual changes or sent him back to the drawing board. I think in the end we came out with a superb design that will ultimately be easier to navigate and read for both noobs and veterans alike.

Probably needs to be posted in here...

Good to see confirmation on speed mods and bpm changes, as well as a release date (!).

**Chromer** · 02-15-2006, 06:29 PM

There. So all you speed mod complainers can now suck a fat one.

**Neonatrias** · 03-7-2006, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromer

There. So all you speed mod complainers can now AAA stuff.

Fix'd. ^_^

Tps222 · 03-7-2006, 07:08 PM

As long as the speed mods are nothing like the ones in R2. I don't know if it is just my eyes, but they seem to start off slow and then accelerate at 60% of the vertical screen.

**Doug31** · 03-10-2006, 04:01 PM

The one thing I care about most for third style is that it better have reverse. As far as I'm concerned, I still can't even play R2, because it doesn't have reverse, which, without it, makes me play worse than on C125.

-Izzy- · 03-10-2006, 06:52 PM

How about there is still no speed mods but you make the constant at least C450 or something.

**XXXsmittyXXX** · 03-27-2006, 09:34 AM

How about C600?
Then only the super speed players can play
Good idea izzy.

**Chromer** · 03-27-2006, 09:42 AM

Pshh Not C600. Maybe C500 or C525.

Tps222 · 03-27-2006, 10:26 AM

I don't think I can even play anything lower than C700.

About a month to release XD

01-24-2006, 12:21 PM	#141
xObserveRx FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ontario Age: 43 Posts: 1,148	I think it's pretty clear that all the high score owners are the only ones who're fighting to keep the game the way it is now. They're obviously afraid of competition based on the fact that they somehow find themselves superior because they can play a totally out of sync game on C300. It is true, PA'ing on C300 is much harder than PA'ing on 3x or 4x or C600 or w/e. But just because that could be implemented doesn't mean the challenge is gone. What would be gone though, would be 10 or so people constantly owning high scores due to the fact that these are the people who have sat around all day throwing all sense of sync out the window and have learned to play songs that are just well... horribly synced. The NEW challenge would become COMPETING FOR HIGH SCORES WITH OTHER PLAYERS. Um... is it just me, or was this NOT the original idea for the game? I agree with a few of the changes. Boos when there is nothing there is stupid. It doesn't make the game original, it shows a retarded coding scheme. Take that out. and most importantly, RESYNC EVERY SONG PROPERLY. There's nothing worse than playing a MUSIC AND RHYTHM GAME to arrows that aren't even synced to the MUSIC. It's just completely retarded and should've been fixed long, long ago. Add speed mods. I think it would be cool if you were required to unlock each mod seperately, plus it would allow the whiners to remain on the high score lists for a bit longer. "But the people will just buy them with their 324324645367547687645 credits right away!" O rly? reset everyone's credit count to 0. It's not like people don't play all day long anyways. And, once again, this will allow the whiners to keep their high scores for a bit longer. Now, if the whiners are STILL whining about not being the best anymore, implement a seperate high scores list for the speed mods. That way the whiners can still enjoy the fact that they think they're better based on playing slow. __________________ Come Play The Werewolf Game!

01-24-2006, 12:31 PM	#142
female FFR Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,523	uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh change away i think you've heard us say dont bitch about n ot being able to play without speedmods, i dont think any of us have ever been against the implementation of speedmods though. whatever, change away, it cant get worse. __________________

01-25-2006, 01:32 PM	#146
Chromer Hookers and Blow Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: You heard the robot. No fun. Age: 36 Posts: 4,981	I remember seeing them before LD went all Nazi on us. __________________

01-25-2006, 06:02 PM	#147
aperson FFR Hall of Fame Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 3,431	They weren't even functional code anyway, just screenshots. Yes, the graphics look very nice. Chardish did an ace job on them. __________________

01-29-2006, 06:56 AM	#148
female FFR Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,523	If there's "Virtually no development to 3rd style" except for the graphics, and none of the things LD keeps implying will be fixed in 3rd style, such as a bunch of the multiplayer bugs, not very many people are going to be pleased. lol __________________

01-24-2006, 07:28 PM	#143
iwishiknew FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1	you know an easy way to stop people from cheating using speed mods would be to simply have them modify the score....... .5 times the normal speed= .5 times the normal score 1 times the normal speed= 1 times the normal score 1.5 times the normal speed= 1.5 times the normal score and so on Ps. Where are these screenshots?

01-24-2006, 09:21 PM	#144
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 4,598	Yeah dude that wouldn't work. First off the vast majority of the community considers speed mods perfectly legit and second off alot of people would do better with them on than off so your system of weighting higher speed mods with higher values would be counterproductive.

01-29-2006, 07:54 AM	#149
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 38 Posts: 13,262	Meh. I think ap is just trying to get people riled up by exaggerating how little work is done with it. __________________

02-9-2006, 01:25 PM	#151
Tps222 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 35 Posts: 6,168	Rome wasn't built in a day. Who cares if is going to take a bit longer, you guys are all complaining about the current bugs in the game. I'd rather have them take there time and make sure the release is of quality and addresses what is needed. This way, we won't need more edits.

02-15-2006, 06:29 PM	#153
Chromer Hookers and Blow Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: You heard the robot. No fun. Age: 36 Posts: 4,981	There. So all you speed mod complainers can now suck a fat one. __________________

03-7-2006, 07:08 PM	#155
Tps222 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 35 Posts: 6,168	Re: The official 3rd Style thread As long as the speed mods are nothing like the ones in R2. I don't know if it is just my eyes, but they seem to start off slow and then accelerate at 60% of the vertical screen.

03-10-2006, 04:01 PM	#156
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 38 Posts: 6,811	Re: The official 3rd Style thread The one thing I care about most for third style is that it better have reverse. As far as I'm concerned, I still can't even play R2, because it doesn't have reverse, which, without it, makes me play worse than on C125. __________________

03-10-2006, 06:52 PM	#157
-Izzy- Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,629	Re: The official 3rd Style thread How about there is still no speed mods but you make the constant at least C450 or something.

03-27-2006, 09:34 AM	#158
XXXsmittyXXX Anxiety monster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Yorktown, VA Age: 37 Posts: 6,924	Re: The official 3rd Style thread How about C600? Then only the super speed players can play Good idea izzy. __________________

03-27-2006, 09:42 AM	#159
Chromer Hookers and Blow Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: You heard the robot. No fun. Age: 36 Posts: 4,981	Re: The official 3rd Style thread Pshh Not C600. Maybe C500 or C525. __________________

03-27-2006, 10:26 AM	#160
Tps222 FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 35 Posts: 6,168	Re: The official 3rd Style thread I don't think I can even play anything lower than C700. About a month to release XD

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