TWG LVII: A Few Nights in Ancion

[edubardus]

1. I don't know what you're talking about.

2. I don't see the connection. Nobody does.

3. Emerald could have killed seth, too.

[freakysnots]

Originally Posted by edubardus

you didn't answer his question.

You want answers? I will post every bit tiny bit of evidence against you.

Wait 10 minutes for my genius writing.

[Halleys5thConcerto]

Point taken, edu. I was referring more to my supposed guilt before seth's death. I agree that it has to be either me, emerald, or freaky.

[edubardus]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

You want answers? I will post every bit tiny bit of evidence against you.

Wait 10 minutes for my genius writing.

ego BOOST

you're being incredibly obnoxious.

[Makilaz]

You're stalling because there is no evidence.

[edubardus]

Originally Posted by Makilaz

You're stalling because there is no evidence.

no, he's giving his genius some time to gently flow through his fingers onto the keyboard, waiting for us to be dazzled by his utterly undeniable skill.

[edubardus]

I also demand that emerald show up at the thread.

[freakysnots]

Night 1.

[00:54] freakysnots: oh
[00:55] freakysnots: well it's night 1
[00:55] fikshonjunkshon: I know.
[00:55] freakysnots: a little too early to make any accusations
[00:55] freakysnots: even though pnt is a wolf
[00:55] fikshonjunkshon: that's great you're concluding things this early
[00:55] fikshonjunkshon: good work, keep going.

Not very significant. Simply states I mentioned to him about pnt. Incase you can't tell, fj was trying to be funny.

Day 1

Fun Facts.

- FJ acted surprised when I said pnt was seered red, and wasted no time shooting down my idea and giving posibilities of pnt being a wolf or a red miller.

- FJ stated that the wolves have a chance of having an orb, which lead to him saying it was a bad idea for the watcher to come public, which finally lead to him not explaining it, and finally lead to the death of the watch in day time.

[I did not think at the time the watcher was in any danger, and the only way someone would think that is if the wolves can kill during day time. When Seth posted the sensor's readings, fj claimed that he was in danger and only should have listed two of the names. The only way I see someone reacting this way was if they are assuming the wolves have an vigi orb (Wolves tend to assume and be over protective and it would make perfect sense if he was a wolf, knew halley had the vigi orb, and said Seth was in danger), but he went on defending halley saying how he is not a possible wolf and at the same time say Seth is in danger.]

- FJ keeps on defending halley, and attacking my statement about halley being connected to pnt.

- FJ said that the sensor is fake if halley was not in the list.

[00:10] fikshonjunkshon: I was right int he middle
[00:10] fikshonjunkshon: thinking for both sides
[00:10] fikshonjunkshon: I went for pnt the more I thought of it
[00:10] fikshonjunkshon: what sold me
[00:10] fikshonjunkshon: was the sensor coming out
[00:10] fikshonjunkshon: because if a false sensor had come out
[00:10] fikshonjunkshon: halley would have not
[00:10] fikshonjunkshon: been in the list.

Not nearly enough evidence but I will get you eventually.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Easy solution to this?

have emerald use his orb on someone, Orbs get redistributed, whoever gets the yellow orb seers halley.

[Halleys5thConcerto]

woah, woah. The only problem with your idea is that you're assuming I've used my orb and that emerald hasn't used his. I haven't heard a word from emerald, so I'd like to hear his case, because if you ask me he's still highly suspect.

[freakysnots]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Easy solution to this?

have emerald use his orb on someone, Orbs get redistributed, whoever gets the yellow orb seers halley.

Solution 1: Halley is a wolf.

Solution 2: Emerald is a wolf.

Since neither of them argued that I had the yellow orb, you guys go and assume I had the yellow orb.

Since a human won't kill the watcher, either halley or emerald is a wolf.

I have yet to see emerald in this thread. Right now everything is pointing at halley, the only way for halley to defend himself is to attack emerald which I don't think I saw him doing.

[freakysnots]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

I have yet to see emerald in this thread. Right now everything is pointing at halley, the only way for halley to defend himself is to attack emerald which I don't think I saw him doing.

ninja'd

[edubardus]

so pretty much, I said I didn't want either the watcher or the sensor to come out in the thread because it would put their lives in danger, etc. We have a guard, but still. We couldn't have both coming out. Sounds normal to me.

I didn't act more surprised than the average player. Oh, pnt was seered red; didn't really expect it. Ok, so he's red. At the time I considered freaky a wolf candidate but he's been cleared so far out of his sight that he doesn't see I believe he's human and we both hold, for the most part, the same ideals and principles.

I stated that the wolves would have an orb simply because random is a suggestive term and it usually isn't. I've hosted before, etc. It never really is random. Nonetheless, given the possibility that the wolves had an orb having any of the special roles come out would put them in danger depending on what orb the wolves had. The wolves had the vigi orb. What if they were to use the vigi and the wolfing on the same player? The special player would die regardless of the guardian. It's happened before; it's absolutely normal. Clearly, I analyzed far beyond freaky's possibility branches as he firmly believes that only halley is a wolf candidate and that I'm an accomplice.

This only leads me to where we are now. Halley and emerald are both incriminated because they're on the watcher's list. He shouldn't have released that list because maybe no wolves had orbs and that would only allow for the wolves to target a player with an orb and have him killed. If that was the case we would have had more targets than we could have afforded to guard at the time. However, that wasn't the case and, once again, luck hits the game and the retarded wolf team decides to kill seth revealing only two possible wolf candidates.

Freaky argues that pnt and halley are definitely connected. I argue that they don't need to be. His conversations are nothing more than an attempt at being sly, and an overall hero. What started out as a 'lolurawolf' joke ended as a firm statement - in freaky's eyes - proving that halley and pnt were connected. Pnt's reaction to freaky's you and halley know each other irl so you're both wolves joke was absolutely natural; I would have done the same, and pnt's reaction didn't seem far from ordinary, in my opinion.

The point is, pnt could have been the red miller (which is what I'm most leaning for at the moment), halley isn't connected to pnt as a wolf but she is still under heavy suspicion merely because she's on the list sethsquall revealed to the thread. Under this channel of thought, one must also conclude that emerald is also under heavy suspicion, as he was on the list as well.

there is no tl;dr ******s.

[edubardus]

well, despite there being no tl;dr I can certainly add something short to my small essay.

FREAKY, YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN YOUR BROKEN ANALYSIS AND ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON YOUR RETARDED PERCEPTION OF PNT'S REACTIONS; CLEARLY NOT ENOUGH TO CONVICT ANYONE.

The only credibly thing you've said was that you seered pnt red. That is it.

[freakysnots]

So what you are saying is it is all coincidence that pnt was seered red but he is actually the miller since he proved no connection to halley. Halley just happens to have an orb but that still shows no connection to pnt. Pnt over reacted when I said halley, but that is pure coincidence because pnt is too good for that.

And my seering is invalid all because pnt has a 1/6 chance of being a miller even if he was human.

[edubardus]

emerald, show the **** up in the thread.

[Halleys5thConcerto]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

Solution 1: Halley is a wolf.

Solution 2: Emerald is a wolf.

Since neither of them argued that I had the yellow orb, you guys go and assume I had the yellow orb.

Since a human won't kill the watcher, either halley or emerald is a wolf.

I have yet to see emerald in this thread. Right now everything is pointing at halley, the only way for halley to defend himself is to attack emerald which I don't think I saw him doing.

OK, here's how logic works. I don't have any "dirt" on Emerald, so I'm defending the only truth that I can- the truth that I know. I'm not pulling a freaky and just making up some crap about emerald to make him look guilty. I'm trying to go about this logically. And emerald is no innocent until proven guilty here- there are only three possible options for who used the red orb- me, you, and emerald. We have been vocal and emerald has been silent. This does not make him inherently innocent. Let's hear something from you, emmy.

[freakysnots]

Originally Posted by edubardus

Freaky argues that pnt and halley are definitely connected. I argue that they don't need to be. His conversations are nothing more than an attempt at being sly, and an overall hero. What started out as a 'lolurawolf' joke ended as a firm statement - in freaky's eyes - proving that halley and pnt were connected. Pnt's reaction to freaky's you and halley know each other irl so you're both wolves joke was absolutely natural; I would have done the same, and pnt's reaction didn't seem far from ordinary, in my opinion.

[22:45] freakysnots: yo
[22:46] merlonifan28: hey
[22:46] freakysnots: I'm not sure what bull **** you are pullnig with halley but wtf
[22:47] merlonifan28: wtf
[22:47] freakysnots: haha
[22:47] freakysnots: halley is an idiot
[22:47] freakysnots: good game
[22:47] merlonifan28: what the hell are you talking about
[22:47] freakysnots: ur convo with halley
[22:47] freakysnots: you know what i'm talking about
[22:48] merlonifan28: what about my convo with him
[22:48] freakysnots: nothing
[22:48] freakysnots: just wanted to see a connection between you and him

I believe we have another misunderstanding. I wasn't talking about the part after that. Notice when I said nothing and told him I just wanted to see a connection bettween him and halley, I implied that 'I WUZ LYING LOLOL'. He assumed I was talking about wolf or etc and said they were only connected in rl. After that, I kept on talking bs with him and showed that part to a few people. Decided to seer him, he was red. Halley was carrying an orb, seth gets vigi'd.

k so halley and pnt r not related in any way

[edubardus]

the sensor needs to come out at this point, guardian guards last two phases.

[edubardus]

and no, halley and pnt don't need to be connected. it could be halley just as it could be emerald.