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  • MarioNintendo
    Expect delays.
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Mar 2008
    • 4179

    #1156
    Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

    Just looked at the song mac, and I'm happy with the empty spaces you left for me! I'll fill them up when I'm on the plane

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    • MarioNintendo
      Expect delays.
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      • Mar 2008
      • 4179

      #1157
      Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

      From NES jams, I think I'll try to step Alien Lair, Dwelling of Doom and Area A. Did you plan on sending any of these hi19?
      Also maybe underwater theme... Gosh, so many, can't decide. They're too good
      Last edited by MarioNintendo; 06-10-2016, 05:45 AM.

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      • DigitalS3r4ph
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Mar 2007
        • 984

        #1158
        Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

        Originally posted by macgravel
        Angel Island Zone (SSBB Remix) [bmah] - Man, what timing! I was about to post my reviews and saw we got a new submission! That intro and outro are killer, haha. Great file, great song, nothing to complain about. Yarrrrr!
        OMFG BMAH STEPPED THE SSBB REMIX TO ANGEL ISLAND ZONE!?!?!!! #$*)U#Y(!@*()@DNCKLS HAVE MY BABIES

        PM me if you find the secret.

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        • Flossy97
          FFR Player
          • Mar 2016
          • 132

          #1159
          Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

          Sent in a file! Lets see what happens :P
          Nothing's non-fat. That's why the world's going to explode one day.

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          • MarioNintendo
            Expect delays.
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            FFR Music Producer
            • Mar 2008
            • 4179

            #1160
            Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

            Good luck!

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            • hi19hi19
              lol happy
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Oct 2005
              • 12194

              #1161
              Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

              Responses.
              A lot of these, I don't necessarily disagree, I'm just confused as to what I should be doing better.

              Originally posted by Dj_Ossa
              Battle! (Legendary Pokemon) (hi19hi19) - Yes. A little too dumpy for me.... But the file makes sense. Great job on the speed changes!
              What is making this file feel dumpy to you? It all seemed fairly musically justified to me: it's just the snare and the melody for pretty much the entire file, until the JS at the end which is the synth arpeggios plus the melody. I found these sounds to be very prominent - I did include the loud beeps in the beginning as miniholds, I can remove those if they are part of the problem? I'd be glad to make an easier difficulty that follows the melody and the bass instead, if that would help.
              Overall I went with a fairly hard file because the whole song is very energetic; an easy file didn't really feel right to me.

              Originally posted by Dj_Ossa
              Battle! (Lugia) (hi19hi19) - Yes. Same as above.
              There's a LOT of sounds in this song and I shift what I'm following frequently. In this case I definitely agree it does feel "dumpy" as a result. The problem is keeping playability in mind, because I found this file getting over-layered really easily if I wasn't picky. If there are sections where you think I should shift what I'm layering, I'll definitely consider making changes.

              Originally posted by Dj_Ossa
              Esacape of the Infidels (hi19hi19 & mina) - No. I'm sorry man, I played all difficulties and I just don't like this file. I can't say there is something wrong with it because well, there isn't... It's just not very appealing to me.
              I was hoping this file could go in the pack and be popular for the same reason files like Excite Bike, VS Boss Battle, The Adventures Of Lolo, and Grind 2 are so often played on FFR. People really like short, challenging, whore-able files. This kind of file isn't supposed to be some grand artistic statement, it's just great for scoring.

              Is there anything specific I could do that would help in your eyes? I did try repeating the song so it isn't so short, but that got rid of the "short intense" feel for little benefit.

              Originally posted by Dj_Ossa
              Med Sci 1 Epic Rock Cover (hi19hi19) - Yes. I backed out of it and was gonna vote NO. But the, I powered through it and the second part is awesome. I just wished you'd done more with the file in the jack sections, so many ways to make subtle progression during those parts. But overall it's a solid file.
              I'm curious what you mean "the second part," are you referring to the guitar solo and the short drum pattern after the break? Because those are the only thing in the file that's not easy 8ths or jacks lol

              More importantly, though, I just want to talk about the jacks. If I do anything more with the jack sections they become ridiculously difficult. I originally had the jumpjacks as pitch-relevant split jumpjacks and that alone literally tripled the difficulty of the file. I tried layering in some percussion in the long single jacks and that made it very annoying to play. Jacks are really tough to get right difficulty-wise. I agree there's lots of ways I could express progression (trills becoming jacks, etc.) but as a player those kinds of changes can make the structure of the file feel non-obvious (Linus' Hamsin file is a good example; the trills to jacks in the oni chart are a weird transition for me when I play) so I just went with a focus on having a consistent playable feel.

              Originally posted by Dj_Ossa
              Spray (hi19hi19) - Maybe. This file seems like a WIP. Way more potential. No, for now.
              I am not sure exactly what to do with this review. Spray seems like a finished file to me? The layering scheme is fairly simple, yes, but that's because everything else I tried made it lose the pitch relevancy of the streams, and I love how the streams feel.

              If I were to layer in the big booming drums, it would be easy in places like 6.201 but it would make proper-feeling PR impossible in places like 7.154
              I originally had the snares layered in but that made the transitions in the 23.344 section into just a jumptrills, which felt really lame and was also way harder than the rest of the file.
              If hands are used to crashes instead of jumps, it makes proper PR impossible at places like 68.106; all the solutions I tried felt really un-intuitive.

              I tried many different layering options and decided that a simpler one was better to preserve the PR and allow flowing patterns (aka no jumptrills), and that experts could just play it on rates. I might be over-focusing on keeping the PR very strict, but that's the entire appeal of the file for me

              The song is short, and perhaps that is what you are responding to? Like the other short files I submitted, I feel nothing really changes if it's looped again other than being more annoying to play for scoring.

              Overall I definitely want to keep this chart as it is intact. It's a great intermediate D3-ish file and plays amazingly on rates (it's super fun on 2.0x!)
              That said if you have suggestions for what layering you'd want to see in another difficulty that would help it get accepted, I'd love to know.

              Originally posted by macgravel
              Angel Island Zone (SSBB Remix) [bmah] - Man, what timing! I was about to post my reviews and saw we got a new submission! That intro and outro are killer, haha. Great file, great song, nothing to complain about. Yarrrrr!
              A chart by bmah for this song (two charts, technically, though one is just the "FFR-ized" version without holds and such) is in my Pack 1.
              I am excited to see what changes he made such that it qualifies as an unreleased file, because the original was already extremely well-made!
              Last edited by hi19hi19; 06-10-2016, 03:44 PM.


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              • bmah
                shots FIRED
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                • Oct 2003
                • 8448

                #1162
                Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

                Oops, I forgot that the file was in one of your earlier packs. Except I did not include the FFR chart, that would be redundant. Sorry, the file can be removed if you want - I'll leave it up to you guys.

                @hi19: I don't know if I could step it all that much differently than what I already have. I prob would butcher the file if I change things for sake of being different from my original chart.
                Last edited by bmah; 06-10-2016, 04:47 PM.

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                • cedolad
                  moonchild~
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6879

                  #1163
                  Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

                  I keep forgetting about these secret files I have on my computer at home

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                  • macgravel
                    Resident Poopbutt
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • May 2004
                    • 2405

                    #1164
                    Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

                    Rip

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                    • hi19hi19
                      lol happy
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 12194

                      #1165
                      Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

                      Originally posted by macgravel
                      Rip
                      Well shit, I didn't mean to be Mr. Partypooper, I was actually excited to see a new file for the song

                      Sorry bmah!


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                      • bmah
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                        • Oct 2003
                        • 8448

                        #1166
                        Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

                        Oh well, it would've been perfect for this pack if it wasn't in any before.

                        I can find something else, no biggie.
                        [I am also seeing if anyone wants a collaboration, but it sounds like hi19's and MN's hands are full...]

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                        • cedolad
                          moonchild~
                          FFR Simfile Author
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6879

                          #1167
                          Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

                          I'm game bmah!

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                          • macgravel
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                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • May 2004
                            • 2405

                            #1168
                            Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

                            Originally posted by bmah
                            Oh well, it would've been perfect for this pack if it wasn't in any before.
                            if the judges like it i might just include it anyways oh well yolo

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                            • hi19hi19
                              lol happy
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 12194

                              #1169
                              Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

                              Originally posted by macgravel
                              if the judges like it i might just include it anyways oh well yolo
                              I vote yolo not that my vote is being counted



                              EDIT- my pack 1 doesn't get played much anyway l0l
                              Last edited by hi19hi19; 06-10-2016, 10:36 PM.


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                              • macgravel
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                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • May 2004
                                • 2405

                                #1170
                                Re: The VideoGame MegaPack 4 (June 30th DEADLINE)!

                                I liked it, Ossa liked it. Tsuka seemed hype to play it. If he likes it I'm going to include it.

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