TWG CLIX: Form your special exclusive groups now! - Game Thread

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Charu

I'm not going to defend him MML... but I think you're wrong about that vote

I understand this actually, as i'm still floating with the idea of juckter still but nevertheless, just know I find MML extremely out of meta and wrong in so many locations since he's joined (ask me for these specific locations and I'll cry because forums are still loading slow).

Like you can't tell me MML is at all since the last at least 6 games he's played ever been this aggressive; starting off that way to boot.

[Charu]

I'll pur more thoughts later though. Time to get ready for work!

[danceflashrevo]

Also very reluctant to follow a haku bandwagon. I'm pretty hyped to see psychoangel's input on stuffs. Reading MML's stuff is just... wrong. Not very level headed either, but I townread botchi so hard. asdf

[psychoangel691]

Been an hour and I've gotten through one person's posts, rip. So I guess I'll just post people as I finish rather than wait till I have a whole reads list.

Just finished up reading botchi/MML

Botchi despite the limited activity gave me more of a town lean. Felt town on Gradiant and freezin, didn't want to throw a ton into inactives on D0, felt someone is off between indheart and shadow, which is how I've been feeling thus far (still have a lot to read though)
MML I don't think I've ever played with before so at first the huge spike in activity felt like an attempt to try and scream "hey I'm town" without really being much of substance but after getting through it all I've still got a town lean. I do like that he's interrogated Charu on his claim since most people were just giving a free pass (again, not totally caught up so there could be others who pushed on the claim I didn't see yet). The only thing I didn't like is the huge zero in on DBP (take that as you will being that I'm the replacement) I just don't like when people get to heavily focused on one person rather than prodding more when there's still a fair amount of time left.

But anyway, for now Botchi/MML has town lean from me. On to the next person.

[psychoangel691]

juckter - I know this person has cited being ill and now internet issues limiting their activity, but idk kind of rubs me the wrong way. A lot of the posts were just filler things which came off as an attempt to look active to me rather than actually contribute. Even the reads post just felt half assed to me, kind of like how he just jumped on other's theories of Charu's claim being legit rather than investigating it or forming his own opinion. I wouldn't jump off and just say he's wolf as of now, but I definitely have my suspicions and wouldn't necessarily mind being rid of him.

Need a short break, be back soon.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

This is where I no longer believe this pure and raw tone couldn't be fabricated to stimulate a town read but yes. You aren't wrong on this sentiment.
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What are you trying to say in this first half? Kinda weirdly worded with all of those negatives

[Precarious]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Someone expain to me and explain to me real good just how "confirmed" Shado is. He and DPB are top scum for me unless you can show how legit his claim is

It's not really a matter of his being confirmed, or scummy. No one has counterclaimed him, and we know that there has to be either a vig or vengeful in this game. The thing is, there are reasons that particular role might not counterclaim yet. But that's kind of irrelevant. Shado is claiming that he'll shoot tonight, which means that we'll be able to reassess tomorrow. Lynching him today under these circumstances would be a bad play, and there are at least three other anti-town players to identify.

[Charu]

Is saying you're SHIT

[psychoangel691]

Mellon - So far I feel town read here. Been pretty actively participating, answering other's questions/concerns towards her. I liked that even though she agreed with people's points about Charu she noted that it doesn't make it concrete.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by roundbox

What are you trying to say in this first half? Kinda weirdly worded with all of those negatives

Sorry, reread it and I get the confusion.

Meant to say: I wouldn't believe a fabrication claim against your emotion towards town being in lack-of-a-better-word lazy and emotionally showing you want them to put in more work at any means necessary.

Furthermore, acting like you care about town being lazy and wanting everyone to show Wanting It More isn't likely fabricated imo. Your posts about this seem very legit and pure is what I was trying to say (apologies if this explanation isn't simplified either).

[Charu]

So uh... what to talk about... what to talk about...

[Charu]

Hakulyte - Town Lean x4
R.E. Aryxi/_Zenith_ - Town Lean x3
Shadowolfe - UN-CC'd
danceflashrevo - Town Lean
DaBackpack/Psycho - Wolf Lean
Precarious - STRONG Town Lean (?)
roundbox - Town Lean x3
botchi246/MML - Confused Town (?)
XelNya - Wolf Lean x1.5
juckter1 - Null (?)
mellonxcollie - WEAK Town Read (?)

[Charu]

If there's a question mark, it's because I'm not seeing the level of my reads this phase that I've seen Day 0 from those people.

Anyways, there's my updated reads with the events I've seen thus far.

Haku is still up there for me and I don't see him being wolf... but it IS Haku... so reading him is a thing in itself. That is to say, it's pretty much impossible to read him correctly.

I can see the wolf arguement, I really can, but when I look at his tones, his posts, and his self loathing in some of them, it makes me think he's town again.

[Charu]

That's just me though

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Charu

So uh... what to talk about... what to talk about...

Talk about how this forum speed is going to fuck us hard at EoD if it remains to be this. Having a really hard time going through a single isolation on Xel right now with less than 100 posts because of the speed (think I've been at this for like a half hour now).

[Charu]

Oh yeah, that.

I say if it's like this still in like... 5PM Server time, I'll raise a stink about it.

I just say for the spirit of this game, just trudge through it I guess. Can't really control the ongoings of the game if the website is being shit.

Or... Pyscho... you can tell Mr. Max to do something about it, mmm? Hee hee hee

[Charu]

...That's Prawnskunk's name, right? Bah...

[_Zenith_]

Xelnya -

Originally Posted by XelNya

I asked you to ram a pole into my anus, not serve fucking tea.



Sometimes you just have to put on the serious pants, just all of us are fucking inbred, so it often takes a few days to put on a fucking pair of pants. That said, I'm sure you've seen the shit-storm of EoD play here, or experienced it in the past, can't be fucked to bother looking at the moment frankly, the shit posting will return like that guy in your social group nobody likes.

Nice Xel post, previous posts before this are shitposts (to be expected). Sorry to say this Xel buddy but I’m getting that sinking gut feeling this is an instance where I’m gonna read you wolf and you’re gonna convince me otherwise and I’m gonna be a salty saltine. Hopefully not by the end of this isolation.

Originally Posted by XelNya

Wait, you said you read some recent twg games, didn't you? I have a hard time thinking ANY of them contain a lack of unvotes. I could be remembering this wrong already though.



Nah. There's no chance.

Out-of-meta; bookmarking this

Originally Posted by XelNya

I agree with this up to the freez trying to contend, but I'm not sure I understand completely what you meant there.



Dig the last sentence here. I forgot what playing with you was like.



Only part of this post I disagree with is the Charu mention. For my reasoning for leaving it below. Especially that first sentence.



It's funny because we're still in the first twenty-four hours of day zero, and there hadn't been anything to really talk about when I was you know, awake. I earnestly am more bothered by this post than I really ought to be.

That said, let me leave you this:

1. dbp is leanin' townie based off tone, early posting. Subject to change but dbp tends to be just as obvious as greggles makes it sound. Unless he's SK. But not worth lyncing D0 or even really discussing atm.
2. No point in discussing if I trust Charu or not, because until a counter-claim or something so scummy it can't be ignored happens, I'm just gonna let Charu do birdstuff.
3. Haku's D0 is absolute shit and while a lynch on him is certainly worth discussing, my conscience got out today and is considering letting it slide a little. But I wouldn't really object.
4. I may or may not be absent a bit later in the evening / drunk.
5. Saturday I will be out with the girlfriend finishing up her birthday gift (which is why I may be gone later tonight.)
6. I guess you could say I'm a little weary of freezin. Just weary though.

This post makes me feel better about you.

Originally Posted by XelNya

The point of that part was to say "I could if you want, but I'm not doing what you just said I am"

it's not an actual "i'm gonna push you if you want me to"

I have made posts at you that come off as mockery, while also being a point to gauge my stance if you read them at face value. While you on the other hand, I feel like are getting lost in how to play the game, and be read a certain way, so you're attempting to make yourself hard to read in a really ass way.

The short hand is like I said earlier. I feel like maybe giving you the benefit of the doubt is fine, but I don't exactly object to lynching you. I don't need to push you, you're digging your own hole.

I actually really like this post. Came off really cleanly instead of aggressively like a big middle finger like I might have expected a post in this sentiment to be. I especially dig the latter area of the post because it’s true; ultimately none of us have to really tear into Haku as Haku does it himself.

Originally Posted by XelNya

Pardon? I don't think the tone of my posts has been particularly similar to recent games. If anything I feel like my posts are more back in the time where this account was an alt.

I actually agree with Xel’s post here. I think Shadow at the time was very wrong with his read on you (especially with the “bullshit” style). I think you’ve played a semi-normal game; where you are shitposting on top of quirky responses on top of serious gameplay instead of picking one of those to mainly focus on.

Originally Posted by XelNya

No see, I'm using the fact that he's saying one thing but is like "oh it's not that bad, guess he's town" as a way of saying his statement is fucking garbage. If his meta-read of you is to see how much you self destruct to lean you one way or the other, but then he says "oh he's not imploding nearly as bad as last time" it's a serious what the actual fuck, because fact is, you still had the worst entrance and early part of D0.

Loving it.

Originally Posted by XelNya

Like seriously, I am fucking astounded I'm the only one nit picking that. That's some stupid shit right there.

Well, you aren't the only one; many people I'm sure thought about it or just avoid it because it isn't worth it. I for one really want to dig into him, but I know it's simply a waste of time because he'll never comprehend how to change (similar to my earlier style of playing until sunfan told me stop doing big dick plays). I agree with the latter.

Alright at this point I believe I’ve read Xel’s other posts. Feeling good about it him right now and saying that doesn’t mean I believe he’s town either. Xel’s posting style alone is minimally alignment indicative at this point to me.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by roundbox

Hakulyte has been playing like a wolf who is unconfident about his ability to push and vote on people without sounding weak or fake. This weakness is driving him to not build cases on anyone.

I don't like XelNya's meta. (slightly more aggressive)
I don't like XelNya's tone. (less game-focussed)
I don't have a good impression of him overall.
I found zero direct content to back this up because I suck at reading comprehension or/and he's super self-aware of me and decided to make his play proofread so I can't do anything about him.
If you found something about him, please do tell me so we can discuss about it together.
I voted XelNya D0 and wasn't confident about being listened to so, I prefered to look for a better lynch and ended up not moving on from him due to coming back to him with PoE.
Just because I suck at making a case over him doesn't mean that I'm unconfident at pushing people. It just means that I suck at making a case about XelNya because he's outplaying me in terms of arguments due to experience.

Seems like you're voting of me for pretty much being myself or for pressuring me to say more which is in the latter case would be fine, but frustrating.

btw, I'm "objectively forced" to say he's town after a full read of his iso. I just hoped I could understand if it's because I'm biased/bad etc. or if everyone else also ended up with the same conclusion.

[Hakulyte]

I'm willing to accept that I misread him because I was his target during the entirety of the game, but this should still be up for open discussion.