2026 TWG Rules Thread

[thesunfan]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

having players lose phantoms if they replace out can be an incentive to replace out, such as to avoid auto-lose situations, which is not something I ever want to encourage

I completely agree with you that phantoms rarely serve their intended purpose, and its why you don't see them in my games, but it is something that I think should be up to the game mod to decide whether or not they belong in their own game

from what I understand, phantoms and the removal of "No-lynch" from the game by roundbox was purely a flavor decision, and it makes sense to me, and that's not something I want to take away from mods.

phantoms are really, really gross though, and I think mods should be very hesitant to put them in their own games, especially considering new policy requires there to be at least one replacement signed up for a game before the game can begin, which means that severely inactive players are more easily replaced than they were before.

[roundbox]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

I think phantoms, if they are in game, to follow the same format as highlighted in the rules post. As for use in game, I don't think they should be the standard. I kept them on as flavor in my game because of how the actual game works and the immediacy of trials.

However, people should definitely commit a vote at some point in the day. Avoiding a phantom if you're an active player is pretty easy. As for replacements, it does definitely add a sticky situation. Replacements are always up to the mod's discretion as to whether or not a player can sub out. I would just leave it up to the mod whether or not to keep the phantom on the player.

[Hakulyte]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

I wonder if we could make standards for what's acceptable to use as a death post.

What is clear is that it's not supposed to be something relevant to the game and that it's only for the player that got night killed.

What is unclear to me is:

Can we post a picture that contains words?
Can we post one or multiple sentences? (less than X number of words ?)
Can we post a youtube video?
Can we post some parts of the above together?
Can we mess around with [spoiler] tags etc.

Basically, should the content of that post be further restricted in some way.

[roundbox]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

I wonder if we could make standards for what's acceptable to use as a death post.

What is clear is that it's not supposed to be something relevant to the game and that it's only for the player that got night killed.

What is unclear to me is:

Can we post a picture that contains words?
Can we post one or multiple sentences? (less than X number of words ?)
Can we post a youtube video?
Can we post some parts of the above together?
Can we mess around with [spoiler] tags etc.

Basically, should the content of that post be further restricted in some way.

yes to everything as long as it does not hint at your role or other roles in the game (especially with no cardflips) and should not make any commentary on who might be what

[thesunfan]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

it also cannot interfere with the flow of the thread in a meaningful way

a good example of this is when DBP posted an unspoilered text of the Spongebob Movie script

[thesunfan]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

two things that should be talked about

one, should there be clearer definition of what qualities a vote must have, more specifically, should votes in [twgv][\twgv] or in [color='Red][\color] tags be the only ones counted, or should a clear attempt at a vote be counted as a vote as well

secondly, should games without nighttalk be locked during the night phases all the time, at mod request, or never. I should mention that, if games are to be locked, its not always easy for me or yoshl or another mod to unlock the thread at a specific time.

Of the first, I think that a rule should be added simply just for clarifications sake. I think only votes that are formatted properly should be counted with no exceptions. I do believe that adding the proper tags to the tl;dr version of the rules will help with this, but, if an expanded rule is added, I will include these tags in the expanded rule as well.

I think the locking of threads during the night phases is something that I think I would like to do unless asked otherwise by the mod.

[YoshL]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

i'm fine with a mod locking the thread at the correct time

[inDheart]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

1) in favor of counting votes in correct tags only, but also making it clear and a must-read what those tags are. i actually didn't realize until i looked that it didn't seem to be stated formally anywhere.

i haven't played with fennec fox, can it handle two different sets of tags, or does it just look at the realized text formatting? if the former, moving to twgv as the sole vote option might be better, though that spells an end to anything else being in bold red ever

2) i think i would prefer this to be game specific unless some mod for each game says they're up to it. something hard and fast is only good if it can be consistently applied, which makes me think it would have to either be "lock always" or "lock never"

nighttalk = off for me entails "don't post" rather than "you cannot post", even if the latter interpretation would have a net positive effect on games

also, a mod who is in a game should probably not be the same one in charge of lock/unlock, as much as we want people to be reasonable people; part of me thinks it just reflects badly to give someone with direct influence on the game that responsibility

it does look like both active mods are in favor of this though, so i guess i like the host opt-out idea sunfan said

[thesunfan]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

well, its you guys that decide the rules with the mods

mods don't decide the rules so

Yoshl and I having our opinions are on equal footing with yours

[thesunfan]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

well, its you guys that decide the rules with the mods

mods don't decide the rules so

Yoshl and I having our opinions are on equal footing with yours

[inDheart]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

ok, maybe i should rephrase

i would favor threads locked at night as the default, and if the host doesn't want it for some reason, they can say so

[Hakulyte]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

If [twgv][/twgv] tags had an unique font that cannot be replicated, that would be ideal for forcing everyone to use only [twgv][/twgv] tags without having to deal with people using [color=red][/color] to potentially fake votes.

This is assuming that [twgv][/twgv] become a standard and the only way to vote someone. Exceptions should be mentioned too like [twgv][/twgv] into a quote or into [spoiler][/spoiler].

Another possibility that's a lot simpler would be to make [color=red][/color] modkillable if it's used to fake a vote, but that sounds a little extreme unless it's directly mentioned in the game.

It's just a matter of how you want to force standards for voting at this point.

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I'm also in favor of locking the thread for night phase as it would end my complains about being possibly modkilled for posting late.
It would end any form of hesitation and anyone could just post how they want until it's locked.

[Gradiant]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

nighttalk = off for me entails "don't post" rather than "you cannot post", even if the latter interpretation would have a net positive effect on games

I'm also in favor of locking the thread for night phase as it would end my complains about being possibly modkilled for posting late.
It would end any form of hesitation and anyone could just post how they want until it's locked.

If nighttalk being off is listed as one of the mechanics for the game, it's a rule. Not something that should be missed either as it's usually also posted in the sign-up thread as well which everybody should be reading if they're planning on playing. Thus if they feel the need to nightpost even after knowing that nighttalking being off is a rule, they should know there's going to be consequences.

I have no problem if the host themselves wants the thread locked when nightphase starts though, but if there's a case where the thread doesn't get locked soon enough and somebody posts beforehand after the dayphase ended, there should be consequences as I've said above.

[XelNya]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

I'm fine on the [twgv] tag being the official voting method but also denote that typos should count because sometimes you just DO NOT have time to proofread or you do and gloss over a simple but stupid typo.

On the locking thing, as long as it can be done consistently I think it's a good idea, and certainly make it so hosts have the option for that not to be the case.

[YoshL]

Re: 2016 TWG Rules Thread

if you want to be like haku and be like "OH BUT I CAN BE LIKE COLOR=#FE0000 AND GET AWAY WITH AN ILLEGAL VOTE" then you're actually stupid. If you're actively trying to stick your toe out past a line and try to be cheeky with that crap, then don't play twg.


easy wording -
votes need to be bolded and red. This can be achieved easily with the [twgv] tag. The text should allow the host to understand without question or assumptions exactly who you're voting for.