Playstation Network Down - Page 7

**virus003** · 04-26-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fingertwitch

Wow, are you serious? The PSN network is down? This is why xbox is better

Yeah definitely a good second post.

You do know that xbox live went down FOR TWO WEEKS DURING CHRISTMAS IN 2010 JUST AFTER HALO 3'S RELEASE, RIGHT? SO QUIT SAYING XBOX IS SO DAMN BETTER, JESUS THEY BOTH HAVE THEIR UPS AND DOWNS BUT STOP BEING A FANBOY

**Velocity** · 04-26-2011, 09:38 AM

Duuno, but this image still makes me laugh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by virus003

Yeah definitely a good second post.

You do know that xbox live went down FOR TWO WEEKS DURING CHRISTMAS IN 2010 JUST AFTER HALO 3'S RELEASE, RIGHT? SO QUIT SAYING XBOX IS SO DAMN BETTER, JESUS THEY BOTH HAVE THEIR UPS AND DOWNS BUT STOP BEING A FANBOY

I though that happened because more people played XBL during christmas then it can hold, not because MS was retarded and can't protect anything.

Let's keep the PS3 vs X360 flame war to a mininum unless you personally own both of the consoles and are stating your opinion.

DJMAYYYNE · 04-26-2011, 10:05 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQsy0KGYi6E

Pause at :59 and compare

Also, Microsoft charges for online because they take the money and buy better servers. PSN still feels like a BETA rather than a final, stable project. I own both consoles and this is my point of view

**Velocity** · 04-26-2011, 03:16 PM

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...-and-qriocity/

"we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained."

"While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. "

I think it's time that we all can say Sony messed up so bad, it's going to kill there rep for a long time.

DJMAYYYNE · 04-26-2011, 03:20 PM

I was just about to post that

. I'm most likely NEVER playing online on a ps3 after this, no security at all smh. I got my 360 connected so I'm good (all I need is a sub lol)

**TwilightPrincess** · 04-26-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Velocity

"we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained."
I think it's time that we all can say Sony messed up so bad, it's going to kill there rep for a long time.

You've gotta be joking, I thought plaintext was a thing of the past....

**Velocity** · 04-26-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TwilightPrincess

You've gotta be joking, I thought plaintext was a thing of the past....

haha, bet you didn't know your CC info is also sent plaintext from the PS3 to PSN.

Edit: woops AP corrected me on this one.

It's plaintext over SSL.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...d-security.ars
http://www.multiupload.com/G4XGCDDZBN

welsh_girl · 04-26-2011, 04:21 PM

No idea Virus, just ignore me.

Are people still 360 Vs. PS3 on this thread? And in general? Damn, old argument is old. Grow up.

fido123 · 04-26-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TwilightPrincess

You've gotta be joking, I thought plaintext was a thing of the past....

Pretty much every Linux/UNIX system out there runs on plain text and make up the vast majority of servers on the internet. FFR runs on some kind of Linux if I'm not mistaken since I noticed you guys seem to have ~/public_html/ setup. Only time shit shouldn't be plain text though is when it's sent though the internet but it just takes some encryption.

welsh_girl · 04-27-2011, 07:28 AM

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...ew-psn-points/

Hmm...

DotKritic · 04-27-2011, 07:39 AM

Well...if someone hacks into the 360 accounts and takes my CC#, it won't be any use since it's expired.

**phe0nixblade** · 04-27-2011, 09:24 AM

Man virus that's funny you mention the xbox live services going down for two weeks after xmas '10 cause I don't remember that at all..
But anyways if it did happen 2 weeks of downtime since NORMAL XBOX. Not just 360. Also I'm pretty positive XBL didn't go down because it was being hacked and everyones CC# and information was being taken. :woops:

**virus003** · 04-27-2011, 09:33 AM

Ugh this is such bullshit, at least I didn't have my parents CC# on there otherwise I would've been ****ed so hard lmao

But yeah, at least Sony spilled the truth on their blog

**Patashu** · 04-27-2011, 09:35 AM

I like how every few months some megacorporation gets hit with an sql injection or whatever and everything gets compromised

makes you think about how intrinsically weakly we design our IT security systems

**Reincarnate** · 04-27-2011, 11:17 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if this is somehow linked to the geohot case -- some Anon hacker deciding to further damage Sony's rep (almost every hacker is familiar with the geohot case at this point). Ever since that case started boiling, people have been poking and prodding like mad at Sony's security. This sort of breach honestly doesn't shock me.

Needless to say, this year so far has been disastrous for Sony in terms of PR and image. Every other week it seems like more Sony retardation is exposed.

But I agree, Patashu -- it feels like security is fundamentally weak. Most coders aren't rigorous when it comes to sanitizing inputs and verifying code. Half the battle is just getting the code to *work* efficiently and properly, let alone secure it from all sorts of possible attacks.

**Reincarnate** · 04-27-2011, 11:34 AM

**NocturneAunamic** · 04-27-2011, 02:23 PM

Fact of Fake, The hacker of PSN has now been hired by Sony to create a firewall to stop it from ever happening again. Either that or jail time.

Don't quote me, I heard it from a friend.

**Reincarnate** · 04-27-2011, 02:31 PM

That sort of rumor is typically fake -- we all saw how Sony acted towards geohot. They are quicker to punish to the full letter of the law than they are to focus on acquiring talent. There is a rumored case of Sony trying to recruit Koushik Dutta (hacker of the Motorola Xoom) and being turned down because of how Sony was treating geohot (although personally I think the email is very unprofessional and makes me question its authenticity).

Although in this case, there's not much to laud about someone who compromises credit card data/passwords/personal info and causes problems for everyone.

**customstuff** · 04-27-2011, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virus003

Yeah definitely a good second post.

You do know that xbox live went down FOR TWO WEEKS DURING CHRISTMAS IN 2010 JUST AFTER HALO 3'S RELEASE, RIGHT? SO QUIT SAYING XBOX IS SO DAMN BETTER, JESUS THEY BOTH HAVE THEIR UPS AND DOWNS BUT STOP BEING A FANBOY

Uhhh, sorry to say, but I was playing my xbox a LOT during then and it never went down...

**Velocity** · 04-27-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by customstuff

Uhhh, sorry to say, but I was playing my xbox a LOT during then and it never went down...

Xbox Live went down in 2007 due to the influx of new users getting Halo 3 for christmas and jumping on live at the same time. Simply overloaded there servers.

In 2010 no crash occurred then I'm aware of.

04-26-2011, 10:05 AM	#123
DJMAYYYNE FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sp*c Land Posts: 609	Re: Playstation Network Down http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQsy0KGYi6E Pause at :59 and compare Also, Microsoft charges for online because they take the money and buy better servers. PSN still feels like a BETA rather than a final, stable project. I own both consoles and this is my point of view __________________

04-26-2011, 03:16 PM	#124
Velocity Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010. Site and Game Administrator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,813	Re: Playstation Network Down http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...-and-qriocity/ "we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained." "While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. " I think it's time that we all can say Sony messed up so bad, it's going to kill there rep for a long time.

04-26-2011, 03:20 PM	#125
DJMAYYYNE FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sp*c Land Posts: 609	Re: Playstation Network Down I was just about to post that . I'm most likely NEVER playing online on a ps3 after this, no security at all smh. I got my 360 connected so I'm good (all I need is a sub lol) __________________

04-26-2011, 04:21 PM	#128
welsh_girl FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cymru, U.K Age: 34 Posts: 1,365	Re: Playstation Network Down No idea Virus, just ignore me. Are people still 360 Vs. PS3 on this thread? And in general? Damn, old argument is old. Grow up.

04-27-2011, 07:28 AM	#130
welsh_girl FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cymru, U.K Age: 34 Posts: 1,365	Re: Playstation Network Down http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...ew-psn-points/ Hmm...

04-27-2011, 07:39 AM	#131
DotKritic Forum User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston Age: 19 Posts: 2,965	Re: Playstation Network Down Well...if someone hacks into the 360 accounts and takes my CC#, it won't be any use since it's expired. __________________ FFR Member Since December 17th, 2004

04-27-2011, 09:24 AM	#132
phe0nixblade Praise the sun mofo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lordran Age: 32 Posts: 4,281	Re: Playstation Network Down Man virus that's funny you mention the xbox live services going down for two weeks after xmas '10 cause I don't remember that at all.. But anyways if it did happen 2 weeks of downtime since NORMAL XBOX. Not just 360. Also I'm pretty positive XBL didn't go down because it was being hacked and everyones CC# and information was being taken. :woops: __________________

04-27-2011, 09:35 AM	#134
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Playstation Network Down I like how every few months some megacorporation gets hit with an sql injection or whatever and everything gets compromised makes you think about how intrinsically weakly we design our IT security systems __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

04-27-2011, 11:17 AM	#135
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: Playstation Network Down I wouldn't be surprised if this is somehow linked to the geohot case -- some Anon hacker deciding to further damage Sony's rep (almost every hacker is familiar with the geohot case at this point). Ever since that case started boiling, people have been poking and prodding like mad at Sony's security. This sort of breach honestly doesn't shock me. Needless to say, this year so far has been disastrous for Sony in terms of PR and image. Every other week it seems like more Sony retardation is exposed. But I agree, Patashu -- it feels like security is fundamentally weak. Most coders aren't rigorous when it comes to sanitizing inputs and verifying code. Half the battle is just getting the code to work efficiently and properly, let alone secure it from all sorts of possible attacks. Last edited by Reincarnate; 04-27-2011 at 11:30 AM..

04-27-2011, 11:34 AM	#136
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: Playstation Network Down

04-27-2011, 02:23 PM	#137
NocturneAunamic FFR Veteran Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: HoCo, Maryland Age: 30 Posts: 893	Re: Playstation Network Down Fact of Fake, The hacker of PSN has now been hired by Sony to create a firewall to stop it from ever happening again. Either that or jail time. Don't quote me, I heard it from a friend. __________________

04-27-2011, 02:31 PM	#138
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: Playstation Network Down That sort of rumor is typically fake -- we all saw how Sony acted towards geohot. They are quicker to punish to the full letter of the law than they are to focus on acquiring talent. There is a rumored case of Sony trying to recruit Koushik Dutta (hacker of the Motorola Xoom) and being turned down because of how Sony was treating geohot (although personally I think the email is very unprofessional and makes me question its authenticity). Although in this case, there's not much to laud about someone who compromises credit card data/passwords/personal info and causes problems for everyone. Last edited by Reincarnate; 04-27-2011 at 02:48 PM..

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