TWG XLV: Let's Play Danmaku Detective Game!

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

Talk to me on aim. If it's possible.

[sertman]

Alright I'll talk to you after I get home from baseball practice... should be anywhere from 5-6 EST

[FictionJunction]

TWG: Bringing people back together.

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

I want everyone to send me convos they have had with fish. THIS COULD BE YOUR TICKET OUT OF A LYNCH SO DON'T BE LAZY ABOUT IT.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Oh, so no list was actually created, he just made it up? Blah, I really should read the bigger posts twice. I knew he was going to go to everyone, but I throught there really would be at least a base list we could work off of.

Oh well, DBP seems to have a lot of information at his disposal, It would be nice to know why flaw went to DBP first over, well, anyone.

I'd also think it would be advantageous to know who guarded flaw last night. If there were 5 people that supposedly "lotto guarded" flaw, I'd bet at least two of them are wolves who said they guarded him, and then didn't so he would be much easier to wolf. Maybe theres some role that can see the lotto picks each night? If there is it would be easy to simply pluck out the people that said they guarded him and actually didn't.

Other ideas floating through my head that I wouldn't mind having some discussion on. This is pretty much conjecture, as I was reading through some of kilga's, and other people's previous games. I could see a scenario where it is:

Humans + legal blues
vs
illegals
vs
wolves

Thoughts? I'm just kinda throwing some of my ideas out there.

I'll hold my vote for when dbp/fish develops the story a bit more.

[talisman]

not checkmate on fish, but interesting. He, fojar, dbp, and stoic were all on my short list for people I know for sure that are ballsy enough to go for flaw. maybe kefit too.

here's my convo with him.

insanelikeafish (1:26:37 PM): sup
stressreliefball (1:26:44 PM): fish
stressreliefball (1:26:46 PM): what's up
stressreliefball (1:27:13 PM): have you even posted yet in twg?
insanelikeafish (1:27:25 PM): i don't really like night posting
stressreliefball (1:27:34 PM): =/
insanelikeafish (1:27:37 PM): especially before a kill
stressreliefball (1:27:39 PM): night posting is where it's at
insanelikeafish (1:27:42 PM): there's nothing to tak about
stressreliefball (1:27:52 PM): blue strategy and whatnot
insanelikeafish (1:27:56 PM): it's just a big circle jerk of the people who took AP stats
stressreliefball (1:28:01 PM): heh
stressreliefball (1:28:11 PM): have you read the thread though?
insanelikeafish (1:28:16 PM): this alliance business is cool though
insanelikeafish (1:28:22 PM): yeah
insanelikeafish (1:28:40 PM): i'm really stoked to see what kind of roles kilga threw in
insanelikeafish (1:28:49 PM): resurrection is always fun
stressreliefball (1:28:59 PM): presuming it is indeed in there
insanelikeafish (1:29:19 PM): yeah it might not be, i can see kilga just wanting to keep all his options open
stressreliefball (1:29:35 PM): what do you make of the whole flaw list of four thing?
insanelikeafish (1:29:55 PM): well i don't know, there's not much to make i suppose
insanelikeafish (1:30:11 PM): the only thing up for debate is his authenticness
stressreliefball (1:30:24 PM): well and how he should go about it, if he is telling the truth
insanelikeafish (1:30:26 PM): besides that we don't have any names so i dunno
insanelikeafish (1:30:37 PM): well i don't think posting the names is the best of ideas
insanelikeafish (1:30:52 PM): gives the wolves way more than it gives the humans
stressreliefball (1:30:58 PM): well right
insanelikeafish (1:31:06 PM): but i mean
insanelikeafish (1:31:09 PM): the wolf in that list
insanelikeafish (1:31:13 PM): when confronted
insanelikeafish (1:31:23 PM): is going to fiegn blue, ille, or human
insanelikeafish (1:31:33 PM): most likely human
stressreliefball (1:31:40 PM): why human?
stressreliefball (1:31:51 PM): I'd think they'd fake blue
insanelikeafish (1:32:02 PM): well caught on the spot, it's normal twg practice to admit blue
stressreliefball (1:32:04 PM): so that  in case they're caught, they at least get a blue out of it
insanelikeafish (1:32:25 PM): i don't think i'd be thinking that way if it was a wolf and an alliance leader asked me my role
insanelikeafish (1:32:34 PM): i'd be thinking of trying to get away with it frist
insanelikeafish (1:32:36 PM): first*
stressreliefball (1:32:47 PM): hmm
insanelikeafish (1:32:52 PM): although i suppose there are more calculated players than i
insanelikeafish (1:33:02 PM): so maybe the wolf will play a blue
stressreliefball (1:33:15 PM): I hope they do play green
insanelikeafish (1:33:23 PM): well in one case you've got 3 blues and a green
insanelikeafish (1:33:29 PM): and in another 2 blues and a green
insanelikeafish (1:33:31 PM): er
insanelikeafish (1:33:33 PM): two greens
stressreliefball (1:33:46 PM): I had just had an idea
insanelikeafish (1:33:55 PM): what's that
stressreliefball (1:34:01 PM): right now no one knows who's on flaw's list
stressreliefball (1:34:10 PM): flaw can use this to serious advantage
stressreliefball (1:34:16 PM): hmm
stressreliefball (1:34:27 PM): just go around telling people they were on the list
insanelikeafish (1:34:33 PM): oh man
insanelikeafish (1:34:54 PM): if fojar got dropped this role, he would've totally done that already
insanelikeafish (1:34:58 PM): fojar loves doing stuff like that
stressreliefball (1:35:06 PM): hell that would net us a huge alliance really early on
insanelikeafish (1:35:15 PM): you should post that
insanelikeafish (1:35:16 PM): er
stressreliefball (1:35:16 PM): although
insanelikeafish (1:35:17 PM): hahaha
insanelikeafish (1:35:19 PM): i mean
stressreliefball (1:35:19 PM): well
insanelikeafish (1:35:21 PM): not post it
insanelikeafish (1:35:25 PM): but tell flaw
stressreliefball (1:35:35 PM): it would be harder to tell, if a wolf faked blue, who the wolf was
insanelikeafish (1:35:49 PM): well i mean
insanelikeafish (1:35:51 PM): let's say he did it to everyone
insanelikeafish (1:36:29 PM): he would know all the blues (assuming ille's told the truth), and have a significantly smaller pool to find reds in
insanelikeafish (1:37:11 PM): that's pretty much game right there
stressreliefball (1:37:30 PM): perhaps I ought to shoot a pm his way
insanelikeafish (1:38:34 PM): yeah
insanelikeafish (1:38:43 PM): i don't see any downsides
stressreliefball (1:39:53 PM): well
stressreliefball (1:40:00 PM): the obvious one would be if he were lying about this whole thing
stressreliefball (1:40:13 PM): in which case we'd be royally boned
insanelikeafish (1:41:36 PM): well if he's already questioned the real list
insanelikeafish (1:41:52 PM): then the wolves would already have two blue names (assuming the told)
stressreliefball (1:41:59 PM): how?
insanelikeafish (1:42:03 PM): which would be probably boneage enough
stressreliefball (1:42:14 PM): flaw wouldn't tell who he's interviewing who else was on it
stressreliefball (1:42:18 PM): unless he's stupid
insanelikeafish (1:42:26 PM): i mean if he's a wolf
stressreliefball (1:42:35 PM): oh
stressreliefball (1:42:36 PM): right
insanelikeafish (1:42:44 PM): so if he's a wolf, we're already boned
stressreliefball (1:43:02 PM): I'm really not thinking he is though
insanelikeafish (1:43:13 PM): i haven't decided yet
stressreliefball (1:43:17 PM): it's too kilgaesque of a role to put in the game
insanelikeafish (1:43:29 PM): yeah, plus flaw doesn't seem like the type
stressreliefball (1:43:42 PM): exactly
insanelikeafish (1:43:47 PM): but i don't want to eliminate it yet
stressreliefball (1:43:54 PM): unless dbp or someone is using him as a puppet
stressreliefball (1:44:04 PM): then I can't see him coming up with this
insanelikeafish (1:45:41 PM): does kilga like the switch-over roles?
insanelikeafish (1:45:44 PM): like in that one blah game
insanelikeafish (1:45:50 PM): judas and salias
stressreliefball (1:45:56 PM): no clue
stressreliefball (1:45:57 PM): maybe
stressreliefball (1:46:05 PM): that would be really interesting
insanelikeafish (1:46:07 PM): that's something else to think about
insanelikeafish (1:46:24 PM): i mean we've got all sorts of possibilities
insanelikeafish (1:46:55 PM): millers, masons, reviving, vigi, bookie, seer/psychic/guard combos
insanelikeafish (1:47:03 PM): i mean i just don't knwo what to prepare for
insanelikeafish (1:47:13 PM): hahah this game rules
stressreliefball (1:47:38 PM): well I sent him a little pm
stressreliefball (1:47:47 PM): we'll see if he uses the strat
insanelikeafish (1:48:23 PM): awesome
stressreliefball (1:48:42 PM): btw
insanelikeafish (1:48:51 PM): if he's legit, i think we've got a promising alliance
stressreliefball (1:48:55 PM): have you talked to anyone else yet this game?
insanelikeafish (1:49:02 PM): nope
insanelikeafish (1:49:08 PM): i'm at work
insanelikeafish (1:49:14 PM): so i've glanced at the thread
stressreliefball (1:49:20 PM): ok
insanelikeafish (1:49:25 PM): but you're the only one
insanelikeafish (1:49:27 PM): what about you
stressreliefball (1:49:32 PM): I just promised myself that I would get after people earlier
stressreliefball (1:49:37 PM): no just you
stressreliefball (1:49:53 PM): I forgot to sign on until today
insanelikeafish (1:49:58 PM): nice
insanelikeafish (1:50:03 PM): shoot i just remembered
insanelikeafish (1:50:13 PM): do you think you could PM me this convo
insanelikeafish (1:50:17 PM): i'm on meebo at work
stressreliefball (1:50:22 PM): oh yeah
insanelikeafish (1:50:25 PM): so i can't get the logs from home
stressreliefball (1:50:34 PM): as long as the character limit doesn't eat it
insanelikeafish (1:50:45 PM): if it does, djnaphouse@gmail.com
stressreliefball (1:50:51 PM): k
insanelikeafish (1:50:56 PM): thanks
stressreliefball (1:52:47 PM): aight I gotta go study
stressreliefball (1:52:51 PM): talk to you later
insanelikeafish (1:53:26 PM): aight, later

[talisman]

So I still want to see some convos with rioting.

Especially dbp and kefit, since those were the only two people based on posting that were clearly online late last night when rioting was turned in. And especially dbp since dbp knew that rioting was an illegal based on what flaw had told him, and it appears that since flaw trusted dbp, rioting might have felt that he could as well. And also, I can't see kefit and rioting, who to my knowledge didn't know each other before this game, suddenly trusting each other so much that rioting would tell kefit his role.

[FishFishRevolution]

fish

Sorry guys.

[Larrikin]

Originally Posted by FishFishRevolution

fish

Sorry guys.

So this is you giving up?

[StoicRoivaS]

Me? Risky kill? You have me all wrong. But either way.

I haven't talked with rioting all game as far as I recall or I could send you the logs. It's way too early to vote, but I'm sensing some desperation in fish there. I'll double check for rioting convo's after class but I'm pretty sure I haven't talked to him or fish yet.

[MilfeulleSakuraba]

Oh, something else I forgot to mention (I am so good at this game).

People that are removed from the game rather than simply killed are not valid targets for resurrection effects. This means that, while flaw may or may not be done, rioting has zero chance of returning. The same goes for any other illegal roles I remove or for anyone else I catch doing sneaky PM stuff (I only replaced pntballa because Larrikin was readily available).

[DarkManticoreX2]

Quick sidenote. I'm going to the FFR convention this weekend and have no idea what my activity level will be like.

I already know I'm not going to be on AIM untill sunday at the earliest. So if anyone needs me for whatever reason, pm me. I still might not be able to get back to you untill Sunday (They'll probably have computers there, but I don't know for sure).

I'll be randomly online throughout the day till about 7pm, and then I set off on my drive.

[talisman]

uh, fish? That was a rather quick surrender.

[Kefit]

What the hell Fish?

None of the stuff posted so far really makes him a wolf lock to me. Does dbp have more damning evidence that he is withholding for now?

Or does Fish simply not care?

Either way, this seems far too easy.

[talisman]

maybe it's some sort of awkwardly executed separation play.

[thunderstrike687]

Originally Posted by talisman

maybe it's some sort of awkwardly executed separation play.

doubtful, unless they have some crazy ability.

fish because he admits and surrenders.

[Larrikin]

fish since he seems the most likely

[x3Mamimi]

Yeah.
I have no conversation with fish. I haven't really talked to anyone. :/
I talked to DBP, Flaw (breifly), Pnt, and JWC (though I didn't save it because the entire conversation was about some song he passed on FFR.)

But, yeah, Fish. I've talked to DBP about it a little..and plus a surrender is a surrender. He pretty much removed all doubt. XD

My activity always sucks on weekends, atleast AIM wise, but I'll be sure to keep reading the thread.

[MilfeulleSakuraba]

Let's Make Danmaku Voting Chart!

FishFishRevolution: 6 (DBP, Fish, talisman, thunder, Larrikin, Mamimi)
Everyone else: 0 (lol)

I'm going to be gone for several hours and then will most likely have company through Saturday afternoon. Try not to break the game or kill each other too much.

[sertman]

looks like i don't have to talk to dbp after all 8)

ps fish