TWG LVII: A Few Nights in Ancion

[edubardus]

either way, we have three situations at hand:

1) pnt was a wolf and so is halley.
2) pnt is a wolf and either halley or emerald is a wolf.
3) pnt is a red miller and either halley or emerald is a wolf.

in all honesty, I can't state which one of them is a wolf as freaky's arguments aren't enough for me to conclude anything either than him being retarded. Pnt could easily be a red miller who has no relation to halley, just as much as he could have been a wolf with no relation to halley, just as they both could have been fellow wolves.

at least we have limited a wolf search to two people now

[Halleys5thConcerto]

It wouldn't make any sense for me to use the red orb. I'm already under heavy suspicion with this freaky-pnt fiasco, so I don't see why it would be logical for me to do it all. This seems like a wolfish plot to make it look like I was guilty the whole time, when I really did nothing except be thought suspicious by freaky who isn't making much sense. Go back and look what I've supposedly "done". Read the conversation I had with freaky:

(10:34:22 PM) freakysnots: hi wolf
(10:34:31 PM) Mike: nah, human
(10:34:35 PM) freakysnots: o rly?
(10:34:41 PM) Mike: yup
(10:34:45 PM) freakysnots: ic
(10:34:51 PM) freakysnots: you are not telling me somethign here
(10:35:12 PM) Mike: just a plain old human
(10:35:22 PM) Mike: that's all I'm telling
(10:36:46 PM) Mike: how about you?
(10:37:00 PM) freakysnots: well what do you think
(10:37:12 PM) freakysnots: just incase you weren't thinking that, human
(10:38:10 PM) Mike: figured
(10:38:19 PM) Mike: that that's what you wanted to imply anyway
(10:38:26 PM) freakysnots: talked to pnt yet?
(10:38:41 PM) Mike: yeah a bit
(10:38:54 PM) freakysnots: can I see the convo?
(10:39:52 PM) freakysnots: i believe that was a question
(10:39:54 PM) Mike: sorry, 1 sec
(10:39:55 PM) freakysnots: k
(10:42:47 PM) freakysnots: Hm
(10:42:53 PM) freakysnots: That was about 180 seconds
(10:43:28 PM) Mike: hey sorry
(10:43:32 PM) Mike: had to check pats game
(10:43:36 PM) Mike: (9:15:33 PM) Mike: hey
(9:15:40 PM) Mike: what's your role this game?
(9:15:53 PM) merlonifan28: human
(9:15:56 PM) merlonifan28: no orb either
(9:15:57 PM) merlonifan28:
(9:16:01 PM) Mike: haha
(9:16:04 PM) Mike: me neither
(9:16:16 PM) merlonifan28: are you human?
(9:16:19 PM) Mike: yeah
(9:16:22 PM) Mike: no orb either
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: well, looks like you learned not to come out to me
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: lol
(9:17:01 PM) Mike: lol
(10:43:36 PM) Unable to send message: Refused by client
(10:43:39 PM) freakysnots: what?
(10:43:41 PM) freakysnots: anyways
(10:43:45 PM) freakysnots: [22:38] freakysnots: talked to pnt yet?
[22:38] Halleys4th: yeah a bit
[22:38] freakysnots: can I see the convo?
(10:44:03 PM) freakysnots: don't make this any complicated than it has to be
(10:44:12 PM) freakysnots: i know you have a habit of acting wolfish
(10:44:13 PM) Mike: oh, didn't paste
(10:44:19 PM) Mike: too large
(10:44:24 PM) freakysnots: shorten it
(10:44:29 PM) Mike: yeah 1 sec
(10:44:44 PM) Mike: (9:15:33 PM) Mike: hey
(9:15:40 PM) Mike: what's your role this game?
(9:15:53 PM) merlonifan28: human
(9:15:56 PM) merlonifan28: no orb either
(9:15:57 PM) merlonifan28:
(9:16:01 PM) Mike: haha
(9:16:04 PM) Mike: me neither
(9:16:16 PM) merlonifan28: are you human?
(10:44:54 PM) Mike: (9:16:19 PM) Mike: yeah
(9:16:22 PM) Mike: no orb either
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: well, looks like you learned not to come out to me
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: lol
(9:17:01 PM) Mike: lol
(10:45:12 PM) freakysnots: that's all?
(10:45:27 PM) Mike: yeah
(10:45:30 PM) freakysnots: hm
(10:46:38 PM) Mike: well, that's all there is to it, man

(My conversation with pnt ital.)

It wouldn't make any sense for me to use the red orb in any case:

A. I'm a human and am under suspicion- adding more suspicion wouldn't help anything and would almost surely get me lynched.
B. I'm a wolf and am under suspicion- adding more suspicion wouldn't help anything and would almost surely get me lynched. And as there are only 3 wolves this would be a very stupid move to be so cavalier this early in the game.

Listen to reason- I'm a human getting thrown under the bus here. I've done nothing questionable and have merely been used as a scape-goat for much more dubious people.

[Halleys5thConcerto]

Also, as a note before the fires start: I didn't tell pnt that I had the orb because
A. It was early on in the game, and I thought it would be best to withold the info at that point(for better or worse, idk)
B. Pnt screwed me over last game, and I was suspicious that he might try the same tactics again.
C. If pnt was a wolf at that point, I thought I would be giving him enough reason to wolf me for having an orb.

[edubardus]

you go girl

[Einherjar_04]

Originally Posted by edubardus

you go girl

I don't like you edu.

Back to business, fact is if pnt was not a wolf then we lost 2 humans. Not a good start. Time to see what night holds.

[edubardus]

3 humans.

[SethSquall]

Ahh I is deaded. I had good news to tell too but had to wait for people to get online. I didn't post it because I didn't want people going "OH GOOD THANKS FOR TELLING EVERYONE"

Irony.

Not ending in spite though so good game everyone see you in the post game.

[freakysnots]

Halley. You were under heavy suspicion, this would be the perfect thing for you to do.

Since you have the red orb, you would use it on Seth and will use this as your defense. You are claiming that doing something like this will seem so stupid that you won't do it, so therefore you didn't do it.

If you are a wolf, using the vigi orb on seth would make perfect sense since you are already under heavy suspicion and have nothing to lose and only gain a half alibi due to stupidity if you go and vigi seth.

k good job edu planned it

[freakysnots]

[15:40] freakysnots: (9:15:33 PM) Mike: hey
(9:15:40 PM) Mike: what's your role this game?
(9:15:53 PM) merlonifan28: human
(9:15:56 PM) merlonifan28: no orb either
(9:15:57 PM) merlonifan28:
(9:16:01 PM) Mike: haha
(9:16:04 PM) Mike: me neither
(9:16:16 PM) merlonifan28: are you human?
(9:16:19 PM) Mike: yeah
(9:16:22 PM) Mike: no orb either
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: well, looks like you learned not to come out to me
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: lol
(9:17:01 PM) Mike: lol
[15:40] freakysnots: Did you recieve that?
[15:40] BenderChan: yeah
[15:40] freakysnots: k
[15:40] freakysnots: he is lying
[15:40] freakysnots: (10:43:36 PM) Unable to send message: Refused by client
[15:40] freakysnots: that is supposed to happen
[15:40] freakysnots: but it didn't
[15:40] freakysnots: did anyone at least test that?
[15:40] freakysnots: god damn it
[15:41] freakysnots: took me like 5 seconds to think of that
[15:41] BenderChan: wtf are you talking about?
[15:41] freakysnots: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=122
[15:41] freakysnots: Look
[15:41] freakysnots: maybe it is my trillian
[15:41] freakysnots: so you should test it as well
[15:41] freakysnots: where it says refused by client
[15:41] freakysnots: copy that entire thing
[15:41] freakysnots: and paste it here
[15:42] BenderChan: the convo you mean?
[15:42] freakysnots: Yes.
[15:42] freakysnots: Mike: (9:15:33 PM) Mike: hey
(9:15:40 PM) Mike: what's your role this game?
(9:15:53 PM) merlonifan28: human
(9:15:56 PM) merlonifan28: no orb either
(9:15:57 PM) merlonifan28:
(9:16:01 PM) Mike: haha
(9:16:04 PM) Mike: me neither
(9:16:16 PM) merlonifan28: are you human?
(9:16:19 PM) Mike: yeah
(9:16:22 PM) Mike: no orb either
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: well, looks like you learned not to come out to me
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: lol
(9:17:01 PM) Mike: lol
[15:42] freakysnots: That
[15:42] freakysnots: copy
[15:42] freakysnots: and paste here
[15:42] BenderChan: Mike: (9:15:33 PM) Mike: hey
(9:15:40 PM) Mike: what's your role this game?
(9:15:53 PM) merlonifan28: human
(9:15:56 PM) merlonifan28: no orb either
(9:15:57 PM) merlonifan28:
(9:16:01 PM) Mike: haha
(9:16:04 PM) Mike: me neither
(9:16:16 PM) merlonifan28: are you human?
(9:16:19 PM) Mike: yeah
(9:16:22 PM) Mike: no orb either
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: well, looks like you learned not to come out to me
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: lol
(9:17:01 PM) Mike: lol
[15:42] freakysnots: if it doesnt say refused by client
[15:42] freakysnots: then god
[15:42] freakysnots: he is wolf
[15:42] freakysnots: k?
[15:42] freakysnots: imma post
[15:42] freakysnots: brb

Nice try.

[freakysnots]

[15:44] BenderChan: i'm confused as to how that proves anything
[15:44] freakysnots: look
[15:44] freakysnots: look at the thing halley posted
[15:45] freakysnots: he claims he pasted that convo
[15:45] freakysnots: and it was rejected by the AIM
[15:45] freakysnots: the exact thing rejected by his AIM
[15:45] freakysnots: i copy and pasted into here
[15:45] freakysnots: It was not rejected
[15:45] freakysnots: then I had you copy and paste that as well
[15:45] freakysnots: it was not rejected
[15:45] freakysnots: He claimed it was rejected so he needed proof
[15:45] freakysnots: but
[15:46] freakysnots: It was too short to be rejected
[15:46] freakysnots: therefore he is a dumb ass for not testing it before posting
[15:46] freakysnots: k?
[15:46] BenderChan: makes sense now, i gotcha
[15:46] freakysnots: now
[15:46] freakysnots: imma post that so i dont have to type it again
[15:46] freakysnots: as an explination

blah blah blah

tl;dr - halley iz wolf, edu is blind / or helping wolves

[freakysnots]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

blah blah blah

tl;dr - halley iz wolf, edu is blind / or helping wolves

sry fix'd

nvm quoting removes italics so im going to bold to show sarcasm

[Halleys5thConcerto]

The rejected thing you are just plain wrong about. I copy and pasted it exactly and that's exactly what happened. I'm not using standard aim so idk if that is making the difference. I'm using a program called Pidgin. Let's stick to logic and not little technicalities that you are using to distract everyone.

[freakysnots]

Downloaded pidgen

It works.

(4:07:38 PM) freakysnots: using pidgen
(4:07:40 PM) freakysnots: sec
(4:08:10 PM) freakysnots: Mike: (9:15:33 PM) Mike: hey
(9:15:40 PM) Mike: what's your role this game?
(9:15:53 PM) merlonifan28: human
(9:15:56 PM) merlonifan28: no orb either
(9:15:57 PM) merlonifan28:
(9:16:01 PM) Mike: haha
(9:16:04 PM) Mike: me neither
(9:16:16 PM) merlonifan28: are you human?
(9:16:19 PM) Mike: yeah
(9:16:22 PM) Mike: no orb either
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: well, looks like you learned not to come out to me
(9:16:43 PM) merlonifan28: lol
(9:17:01 PM) Mike: lol
(4:08:13 PM) freakysnots: See it?
(4:08:17 PM) Argo1516:ys
(4:08:18 PM) freakysnots: k
(4:08:20 PM) freakysnots: hes gone

[Halleys5thConcerto]

And Freaky we can suppose away at my "strategy" for using the red orb, but it's silly because my so called "heavy suspicion" seems more like a figment of your imagination than anything else. There is no proof for my guilt other than your supposed understanding of a connection with me and pnt. And you don't really have any proof other than that one convo.

[Makilaz]

Freaky, how the hell does edu factor into this?

[freakysnots]

Originally Posted by Makilaz

Freaky, how the hell does edu factor into this?

Note: I kindly bolded / italtisized my writing to show sarcasm. Laugh with me please.

(4:10:08 PM) freakysnots: tell edu to think the next time he trys to bs
(4:10:22 PM) Halleys4th: idk what you're on about with edu
(4:10:32 PM) Halleys4th: I haven't talked to him outside the forum once this game
(4:10:43 PM) freakysnots: k
(4:10:49 PM) freakysnots: that gives me even more reason to suspect edu
(4:10:52 PM) freakysnots: since you are about to die
(4:10:57 PM) freakysnots: and you are claiming you never talked to edu
(4:11:04 PM) freakysnots: you are hiding something
(4:11:06 PM) freakysnots: gj
(4:11:10 PM) freakysnots: u screwed up even more
(4:11:44 PM) Halleys4th: you're an idiot
(4:11:55 PM) freakysnots: k
(4:12:09 PM) Halleys4th: whatever
(4:12:14 PM) Halleys4th: you'll see in the post game
(4:12:32 PM) freakysnots: haha
(4:12:35 PM) freakysnots: that is what everyone says

Not really evidence but freedom of speech. I just want to post it for the lulz.

[edubardus]

Originally Posted by Halleys5thConcerto

And Freaky we can suppose away at my "strategy" for using the red orb, but it's silly because my so called "heavy suspicion" seems more like a figment of your imagination than anything else. There is no proof for my guilt other than your supposed understanding of a connection with me and pnt. And you don't really have any proof other than that one convo.

agreed, though being on the list still heavily incriminates you.

[freakysnots]

1. He lied about the client refusal.

2. He was connected to pnt who was a wolf.

3. He was the one who had an orb and seth got killed.

Sir fj, are you blind?

[Halleys5thConcerto]

Ok, I'm not sure what the deal is with Pidgin, but I definitely thought I tried it the other night and it didn't work. It's possible that I had something else "copied" by accident. I don't really see why this is such a big deal, though. Again, it seems like we're focusing in on the things other than logic here. Seems like a good manipulation tactic, so be weary...

[edubardus]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

Note: I kindly bolded / italtisized my writing to show sarcasm. Laugh with me please.

you didn't answer his question.