jTWG LVI: Bioshock LEGIT THREAD

[rzr]

Nobody's going to incriminate themselves, of course. But, we can make a suspect pool. Everyone who has had a conversation with Virus posts it. The whole thing. From there, we can analyze things. Based on the convos we can determine if one of them had a reason to kill him. Or, we'll at least know who's talked to him at all. Someone could be hiding something. The same going for Turboyoshi, because we have no confirmation of who's been killed by what. Also, Spyke should not reveal his seering results unless it's a red. That allows the wolves to kill whoever he seered as human. So, at best he should say that he seered a human if he did. Unless he suspects them to be the MW. If there is one, I didn't look. So, Gamer, that puts you on my suspect list because I haven't talked to anyone else. But, don't quote me. It's not a strong suspicion, I just put my opinion forth. I'm not voting for you or anyone else until I get better evidence.

I'll go first in regards to conversations. I haven't talked to anybody on AIM. The only place I have is in this thread and my role PM.

[rzr]

I feel like I should elaborate a bit on that. If the seer says, hypothetically, "I seered player x as green." Then everybody immediately trusts that person a bit more. That's a prime wolf target - Someone everyone trusts. So, by all means, have the seer tell us they seered a green. Just don't give out the name. It's ok to give the name out to someone they really trust, like the masons. Or, if they seer a red they should tell everyone, that's a given. So, by Gamer saying the seer should tell us, if it's a human, that means Gamer wants to give the wolves/himself a prime target for their/his kill.

Again, I'm not saying Gamer IS DEFINITELY a wolf, I'm just saying that I don't have anything better to go with. I'm still not voting for him, because that much evidence wouldn't convince me if I was the one it was presented to.

And I still say everyone who's had a conversation with Turboyoshi or Virus should post it. Whether it's a PM or an AIM log, I want to see everything. If nobody claims to have talked with them they're on an immediate **** list. By posting it, you show us you have nothing to hide and gain our trust a little bit more.

[GamerShadow]

I don't have logs for either of them. I was planning on talking to Turboyoshi, but never got around to it due to me talking to other people, plus a bit of a problematic relationship that hasn't even started yet, but was about to. D:

However, rzr, I was highly suspicious of the player you replaced at the beginning of the game because of this:

Thursday, December 04, 2008
TwilightxShade (4:57:29 PM): Sup
MinaciousGrace (4:58:02 PM): huh
TwilightxShade (4:58:24 PM): Did you get any items night 1 in the jTWG?
TwilightxShade (4:58:35 PM): I want to know if the host is handing them out randomly to a few people each night
MinaciousGrace (4:59:38 PM): uhh
MinaciousGrace (4:59:40 PM): i dunno
MinaciousGrace (4:59:41 PM): i dont think so
TwilightxShade (4:59:53 PM): Well, you'd have to know. You would get a PM from the host if you did.
TwilightxShade (5:00:04 PM): So obviously you either didn't or are trying to hide the fact that you did.
TwilightxShade (5:00:16 PM): I'm going to assume you didn't, because this is your first game.
MinaciousGrace (5:00:26 PM): but what if I am
TwilightxShade (5:00:39 PM): Then I know that items are only given out to some people.
TwilightxShade (5:00:45 PM): And not all.
TwilightxShade (5:00:48 PM): Seeing as I didn't get one.
TwilightxShade (5:00:56 PM): That's all I'm looking into at the moment.
TwilightxShade (5:01:02 PM): No need to be on edge.
TwilightxShade (5:01:20 PM): I actually want to talk to Lifevirus. Have you IM'd him at all?
MinaciousGrace (5:01:27 PM): no
TwilightxShade (5:01:28 PM): ok
MinaciousGrace (5:01:40 PM): or maybe I did
TwilightxShade (5:01:49 PM): Clearly you didn't.
MinaciousGrace (5:02:00 PM): you never know
TwilightxShade (5:02:05 PM): But I do.
MinaciousGrace (5:02:11 PM): no you don't
TwilightxShade (5:02:23 PM): This is your first game. I was super on-edge too.
TwilightxShade (5:02:32 PM): When I first started.
MinaciousGrace (5:02:41 PM): how do you even know it's my first game
TwilightxShade (5:02:46 PM): uhh
TwilightxShade (5:02:48 PM): TWG history threads
TwilightxShade (5:02:49 PM): stickied
TwilightxShade (5:02:51 PM): check
MinaciousGrace (5:02:57 PM): maybe I used an alt
TwilightxShade (5:03:30 PM): Possibly, but I'm sure you didn't. You're trying to be ambigious to throw me off. You're rather suspicious of me right now because I'm IMing you.
MinaciousGrace (5:03:57 PM): am I?
MinaciousGrace (5:04:00 PM): or maybe I'm not
TwilightxShade (5:04:01 PM): Simply put, what I wanted to tell you was that there was a call for the seer to come out.
TwilightxShade (5:04:15 PM): If that's you, feel free to do so.
TwilightxShade (5:04:35 PM): The guard is more than likely to still be in the game, and they'll guard you if they have half a brain
MinaciousGrace (5:05:34 PM): what if they dont
TwilightxShade (5:05:51 PM): Then they're likely a newbie.
TwilightxShade (5:06:08 PM): Experienced seers will either post the results, or get somebody else to do it for them
TwilightxShade (5:06:20 PM): Almost always the first option.
TwilightxShade (5:06:40 PM): The key to a human victory is to preserve the blues and form a blue alliance
MinaciousGrace (5:06:40 PM): o rly?
TwilightxShade (5:06:55 PM): Therefore, in a seer/guard/whatever game
TwilightxShade (5:07:05 PM): the seer will usually come out with their results
TwilightxShade (5:07:18 PM): The guard will stay hidden
TwilightxShade (5:07:50 PM): Do what you need to, though. I'm just stirring up activity, really.
MinaciousGrace (5:08:08 PM): maybe it's already stirred and you just don't know it
TwilightxShade (5:08:22 PM): Maybe that's getting really annoying and you should seriously stop.
MinaciousGrace (5:08:41 PM): is it?
TwilightxShade (5:08:44 PM): Yeah
TwilightxShade (5:08:46 PM): cause it's not working
MinaciousGrace (5:08:56 PM): how can you be sure
TwilightxShade (5:11:18 PM): Because I'm essentially ignoring it.
MinaciousGrace (5:11:54 PM): what if im ignoring you too
TwilightxShade (5:12:20 PM): Clearly not, because I haven't been pulling the stuff you have and you're still talking to me.
MinaciousGrace (5:12:30 PM): what if im not
MinaciousGrace (5:12:34 PM): what if this is just a smart chat bot
TwilightxShade (5:12:38 PM): rofl
TwilightxShade (5:12:45 PM): Then you're cheating and it;s against the rules.
TwilightxShade (5:12:55 PM): Also, nobody would use a chatbot for something like TWG
TwilightxShade (5:12:56 PM): give it up
MinaciousGrace (5:13:09 PM): give what up
TwilightxShade (5:13:13 PM): Your arguement
TwilightxShade (5:13:15 PM): lol
MinaciousGrace (5:13:21 PM): what argument
TwilightxShade (5:13:24 PM): haha
TwilightxShade (7:44:14 PM): I have the feeling that Turboyoshi is wolf
TwilightxShade (7:44:27 PM): not going to claim it yet, but I'm getting suspicious
MinaciousGrace (7:44:32 PM): look at his name dude
MinaciousGrace (7:44:33 PM): TURBO
MinaciousGrace (7:44:34 PM): YOSHI
MinaciousGrace (7:44:37 PM): obviously a wolf
TwilightxShade (7:44:39 PM): lol
TwilightxShade (7:44:55 PM): Anyway, I think we should finish the insta on clarinet
MinaciousGrace (7:45:02 PM): only way he could have made it more obvious is if he named himself turbomeateatingyoshi
TwilightxShade (7:45:11 PM): or turbomeateatingwolfyoshi
MinaciousGrace (7:46:03 PM): wats a clarinet
MinaciousGrace (7:46:05 PM): wats an insta
TwilightxShade (7:46:09 PM): lawl
TwilightxShade (7:46:13 PM): brb shower
MinaciousGrace (7:46:15 PM): insta clarinet = mold go into microwave?
MinaciousGrace (7:46:20 PM): comes out a clarinet
TwilightxShade (7:46:20 PM): I am away from my computer right now.

There should've been no reason for him to do something like that, but I'm not going to vote based off of this alone. I want to hear what you have to say, rzr.

Also, it wouldn't matter if we displayed the names of who was seered green or not. The wolves already know who the other wolves are, making everybody else easy to kill. If they needed names to pick their nightly killings, this game would be played a lot differently. If we only tell Spyke to display those he seered red, it would make lying much easier for him if he was a wolf, and the human's job much harder to discern whether or not he's lying until it's too late.

So, I say we continue doing what we did the previous day phase. Seer posts results, we decide if its legit, if it is, we lynch the red, making sure to watch out for brutal, guard guards the seer at night, etc.

[rzr]

I don't really have much of a jurisdiction over a new player. He just seems like a weirdo. I'm not sure what you want me to say. I haven't shown any signs of being a wolf. Unless someone wants to say otherwise. What phase did I join? I have no items, or I would come out with it. Anything else...?

[rzr]

I have new reason to believe Tater's a wolf. I'll elaborate when Jess posts.

[Panic4Me]

Just talked to rzr on AIM:

Sunday, December 7, 2008

Jessatlb (4:09:26 PM): hey
rzrstubbedhistoe (4:29:47 PM): ??so
Jessatlb (4:30:40 PM): wasn't sure how important it was, but i talked to virus the other night before he got vigi'd
Jessatlb (4:30:50 PM): he said he was about to vigi tater
rzrstubbedhistoe (4:32:19 PM): did he say why or anything? or with what item?
Jessatlb (4:32:43 PM): no, all he said was that he was planning on doing it
rzrstubbedhistoe (4:41:10 PM): Interesting* i hate my new phone
Jessatlb (4:41:27 PM): lol
rzrstubbedhistoe (4:43:35 PM): well if i were you i would post the conversation
Jessatlb (4:44:05 PM): mk
rzrstubbedhistoe (4:44:46 PM): and this one
Jessatlb (4:45:18 PM): okay, saving it now

And here's the log with virus from last night:

Saturday, December 6, 2008

virus003iscool (9:38:32 PM): And I just lost
virus003iscool (9:38:34 PM): TWG
virus003iscool (9:38:37 PM): ROFL
virus003iscool (9:38:44 PM): I got vigi'd.
Jessatlb (9:38:54 PM): you got what?
Jessatlb (9:38:56 PM): lol
virus003iscool (9:39:02 PM): Means
virus003iscool (9:39:08 PM): I got killed with an item
Jessatlb (9:39:12 PM): lol
virus003iscool (9:39:17 PM): And I was about to Lynch Tater Tot
virus003iscool (9:39:20 PM): D:
virus003iscool (9:39:27 PM): I mean'
virus003iscool (9:39:30 PM): Vigi him.

[rzr]

I just asked her to post it now because my new phone is ****ing retarded on AIM. So, we can all talk here. The way I figure, Virus must have know that Tater would be a wolf for some reason, and was planning on going after him. The lynch-vigi wording mess up is a bit confusing. Either that or the other way around. But, we almost for sure know Turboyoshi was wolfed. Did he have any enemies?

[Panic4Me]

I haven't talked to Turbo, so I don't know about any. But I did just talk to virus to fix any confusion that may result from his typing mistake in the last log I posted.

Sunday, December 7, 2008

virus003iscool (5:11:56 PM): Hmm?
Jessatlb (5:12:02 PM): last night when you were talking about Tater, you were going to Vigi him, not Lynch, right?
virus003iscool (5:12:14 PM): Yeah.
Jessatlb (5:12:17 PM): mk
virus003iscool (5:12:24 PM): Is he a brutal Wolf?
virus003iscool (5:12:30 PM): Rofl
Jessatlb (5:12:35 PM): i have no clue
virus003iscool (5:12:41 PM): If he is
virus003iscool (5:12:46 PM): Don't lynch him
virus003iscool (5:12:49 PM): Vigi him.
virus003iscool (5:12:56 PM): Because he can take you with him.
virus003iscool (5:12:58 PM):
Jessatlb (5:13:04 PM): just wanted to clarify that though cuz you typo'd and the log may confuse people

[rzr]

Why didn't you post that before?

[Panic4Me]

I didn't ask him about it until you said it might be confusing.

[Spyke_MH]

Well about the person rzr replaced....he acted like that to me too.

Spyke Slash (6:50:44 PM): you been to jTWG thread recently?
MinaciousGrace (6:50:55 PM): whazzat
Spyke Slash (6:51:05 PM): the werewolf game?
MinaciousGrace (6:51:17 PM): what's the j for
Spyke Slash (6:51:20 PM): junior
MinaciousGrace (6:51:25 PM): and no i'm not realy into sewing video games
Spyke Slash (6:52:04 PM): ?
MinaciousGrace (6:52:18 PM): huh?
Spyke Slash (6:53:15 PM): you did sign up for the junior werewolf game bioshock right?
MinaciousGrace (6:53:32 PM): what
MinaciousGrace (6:53:48 PM): what does bioshock have to do with werewolf sewing games
MinaciousGrace (6:54:02 PM): bioshock the werewolf sewing game is a new title?
MinaciousGrace (6:54:04 PM): maybe i should get it
MinaciousGrace (6:54:07 PM): closed beta started yet?
Spyke Slash (6:54:11 PM): ......
MinaciousGrace (6:54:26 PM): oh ok
MinaciousGrace (6:54:26 PM): it's on the low down
MinaciousGrace (6:54:26 PM): i got it
Spyke Slash (6:54:36 PM): you're messing with me aren't you
MinaciousGrace (6:54:48 PM): am I?
MinaciousGrace (6:54:52 PM): or are you messing with me
Spyke Slash (6:54:54 PM): >.>
MinaciousGrace (6:54:57 PM): subconsciosly
MinaciousGrace (6:55:06 PM): you are aren't yuo

for a moment there I was worried that egomania had posted a false AIM...thats why I was asking to make sure...

and as for my seer results, I have to agree with gamershadow. The seer not posting results would make it easy for a wolf to fake. Also me posting that someone is green doesn't instantly make us trust them as MW is most likely still alive. So I apologize for my lack of activity...been working a lot this weekend, and trying to study for finals...So I just figured I'd mention that boondocks came up green. Was wondering if she was a wolf and make a rookie mistake making it obvious that she had intentions to get the seer lynched.

[rzr]

I still say you shouldn't tell the thread your seering results, assuming it's human. If it's wolf then duh. The wolves can then target that person easily. But, I'm wasting my time. I can't tell you what to do. Also, the dude I replaced seems to be a weirdo.

Oh, and what mistake?

[Spyke_MH]

Originally Posted by boondocks77

I'm voting
Spyke
Buddy don't openly tell us what you are unless you want to get lynched.

She posted this, and then a second post saying to disregard it...but I wasn't sure if the mistake was that of a wolf exposing themself or a human accidentally voting for the wrong reasons.

[Tater Tot]

Hey rzr, why do you think I'm a wolf?

[Spyke_MH]

tater tot do you have any idea why virus would want to vigi you?

[Tater Tot]

I acted stupid playing around and going woof. That's probably why. I did the same thing with jess too if she kept the chat log. I can't keep logs though, because I'm using the iPhone AIM app for my chats. T.T

[GamerShadow]

Originally Posted by Panic4Me

I haven't talked to Turbo, so I don't know about any. But I did just talk to virus to fix any confusion that may result from his typing mistake in the last log I posted.

Sunday, December 7, 2008

virus003iscool (5:11:56 PM): Hmm?
Jessatlb (5:12:02 PM): last night when you were talking about Tater, you were going to Vigi him, not Lynch, right?
virus003iscool (5:12:14 PM): Yeah.
Jessatlb (5:12:17 PM): mk
virus003iscool (5:12:24 PM): Is he a brutal Wolf?
virus003iscool (5:12:30 PM): Rofl
Jessatlb (5:12:35 PM): i have no clue
virus003iscool (5:12:41 PM): If he is
virus003iscool (5:12:46 PM): Don't lynch him
virus003iscool (5:12:49 PM): Vigi him.
virus003iscool (5:12:56 PM): Because he can take you with him.
virus003iscool (5:12:58 PM):
Jessatlb (5:13:04 PM): just wanted to clarify that though cuz you typo'd and the log may confuse people

Uhhh... dead players can't talk about the game until it's over. You might be in trouble with the mods now. D:

[robertsona]

yeah i just looked at that...

[robertsona]

im gonna warn you now and report the post and let the mods/manti handle it or w/e
don't do it again

PS IM YELLOW LOL IN CHAT

[Panic4Me]

o.o My bad... didn't know that. Sorry!!! =x