TWG CI: Fiction's Birthday Party

[dAnceguy117]

I am completely ok with this lynch being between jayde and TPS

[Vendetta21]

man dance one of the things i constantly say is being a hypocrite doesn't make you a wolf. you aren't searching for idiots, hypocrites, and liars, you are looking for people whose behaviors seem to indicate wolfiness. dumb humans tend to perform more wolfy things than wolves because wolves are much more coordinated.

i catch red on the first day like 60-70% of the time and then proceed to lose sight of the rest of the game due to overconfidence. if you need me to i can grab some llinks to games to prove this. this is because from a fresh perspective i tend to catch a couple things that stand out and go with them.

for instance, there was the last game i played with xiz where we killed YMIA (i think it was him at least) day one and he was red. there was the game before that where we caught danceguy day one. the previous C9++ where we got krauthammer day 1. i wasn't here day 1 because i was busy, and then on day 2 i noticed a set of things that gave a strong indication of wolfiness. not being invested enough to really do behavioral analysis, i took a very cold and calculated approach and that paid off.

you are right to note that it also didn't tell us much. i feel the fact that it didn't tell us much is an indicator of wolf laziness. i think this correlates with manti or TPS being a wolf (or both.)

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

you aren't searching for idiots, hypocrites, and liars

wait what? I'm absolutely searching for liars.

hypocrisy is not the basis of my read. hitting the jackpot on Kraut based on what I see as faulty logic (on a day when Kraut SHOULD have been attacked by wolves) is the basis of my read.

[dAnceguy117]

ok let's focus on jayde and TPS. does that sound good to everyone? besides jayde and TPS lol

[j-rodd123]

do you think it's likelier theres a wolf in tps/jayde than in V/jayde or V/TPS?

[Svaz]

Originally Posted by Tps222

Its strange that no one is running with dance's(our assumed human) defense of manti 10 or so posts ago. I'd expect the wolves to run away with that if manti was a wolf this close to crunchtime.

Mostly what gets me about TPS is stuff like this. With every blue role either dead or vocal at this point, how can he still operate this way? Sure, I mean, there is a slight possibility there are some super scared blues hiding and j-rodd/dAnce are the most skillful wolf team ever, but that's way too crazy to be accurate.

I do suppose that's fairly minor and it's not unreasonable to take each claim with a measured amount of suspicion but... c'mon. With cardflips and everything? There's just no way.

[Charu]

If we're absolutely getting rid of Dark in this equation, then definitely go after the second suspect.

But I won't vote yet, there's still time.

[j-rodd123]

svaz-that TPS quote was what bothered me as well, like I don't get the logic there at all

[j-rodd123]

not the assumed human part, the whole how he approached it. seeing as how people were lightening up on the manti lynch as well

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by dAnceguy117

wait what? I'm absolutely searching for liars.

hypocrisy is not the basis of my read. hitting the jackpot on Kraut based on what I see as faulty logic (on a day when Kraut SHOULD have been attacked by wolves) is the basis of my read.

lynch all liars is good policy yeah but not as important as trying to catch people who have a series of things that indicates wolfiness.

jayde said he "faked" his push for manti yesterday or something like that to see how people would respond. that, i feel, is not a basis for lynching him as much as the overall context of the game suggests inactive wolves.

and my reads weren't faulty. you are calling them hypocritical if i understand you correctly because i agreed with jrodd and killed kraut for agreeing with jrodd so heavily. i felt jrodd was human because of his day one activity as compared to the game he and TPS were wolves together. i just went "oh definitely human." we must realize that kraut knew jrodd was human, and from playing with him i know that his game wasn't as fully clarified as that as to just follow someone. he doesn't have a deep sense of the meta of other players, he's typically pretty clunky and inaccurate on that shit.

[dAnceguy117]

Jrodd - I'm about even on v/tps and like jayde slightly better than both

[Crazyjayde]

Uh wtf is happening. Just came back from the hospital.

Gimme some time to post.

[j-rodd123]

ok we still have an hour but if we somehow fuck up today there's no way we miss tomorrow, like if we do I quit because I am the WOAT

jayde is here too so I wanna here from him

[j-rodd123]

tps

[j-rodd123]

actually danceguy, didn't realize tps was 1 from insta

[mellonxcollie]

I switched my vote around because I still want to see more from Manti, and there will always be another day to lynch him factoring in what goes down tonight. I am not stuck on voting Jayde. Though my intuition screams wolf, the way he is playing doesn't really seem to mesh with whoever the other wolves are.

I am still unsure I guess

[j-rodd123]

back to Vendetta because ive just been right so much this game!!

[dAnceguy117]

so I've been waffling back and forth on jayde the entire game. just like Manti said, posts look helpful, actions look wolfy. when I said jayde is a wolf during night 2, that was a moment of weakness haha, I spouted out my actual read. when I said jayde's not a wolf that was me trying to get him killed in case he WERE a wolf because I wanted to lynch him.

tried to get ficmom to claim, said kraut looked wolfy but appealed to the pizza guy to lynch Manti instead. d1 he said he was fine with pntballa lynch but tried to get someone else to vote pnt instead of him. d2 had announced suspicion of fiction earlier, but is active but terse at end of phase and then essentially puts a safety on V... putting V 1 away from kitb??

there's other stuff but yeah yall should reread and see what you think

[dAnceguy117]

"that was me trying to get him killed in case he WERE a wolf"

in case he WERE town*

sry

[j-rodd123]

does V's timing not look wolfy? not mention Krauthammer at all or any interaction, then boom no wolf kill and seeming 100% confidence in a kraut push?