TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I don't think that's what happened


He started to put pressure on Raeko when I was doing it and it looked like Raeko wasn't around to defend. From that point on he was pressured by both Raeko and AA who wouldn't let up. In that situation, do you think a wolf would have ignored them and not responded?

This makes no sense. Not saying 100% a wolf but his interactions in and of themselves don't point to a town Shado.

uhhh, no.
I asked Raeko to post more in #382, after Haku mentioned he wanted Jade to post more.
You apparently called her out in #320-something. I didn't even know that was the case until AA mentioned it later when I asked him to check the timeline, but still, 60 posts later is not "when you were doing it".
Your version of events is really sketch. "when Raeko wasn't around to defend"? I literally asked her to COME BACK AND POST MORE.
Every time I feel like this horse is dead and gone, it comes back somehow. Stop beating the dead meat, please.

[Witch of Certainty]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I didn't look at your post in context, it was while I was looking at your ISO, so I didn't actually notice who responded to your post and if you responded back, etc

will you be able to interact with people in real time

Okay.

Do you have something you want to talk about?

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

what length games are you used to/how many posts per phase?

48/24, I don't keep track of that.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

So what you are saying here is you are also a fan of JonTron gifs?

Quite, I'm a fan of entertaining gifs and good music. Oh, and game-related posts that I agree with or at least find have decent reasoning behind them.

[AragakiAyase]

gonna go to bed, I may post a little but on phone but for now here's where I'm at

XelNya - blehhhhhhhhhhhhhh and shado pointed out a neat contradiction just now, scum lean
Charu - noted earlier that charu felt like he cared about something that I thought wolf charu wouldn't care about, cbf to dig up the post right now. town lean
MixMasterLar - seems par for the course, nothing much else to say. town lean
Prophylaxis - a wall post and another wall post and a few posts here and there. the wall posts seemed good to me but then again they seemed good to me when he was scum, so I'm not letting it sway me too much. null, maybe a smidge of a town lean
roundbox - initially gave me a good impression but has since vanished from the face of the earth; null
ShadoWolfe - beaten this read to death three times over, I don't know whether I'll ever fully untunnel myself from this for better or worse; scum lean
mellonxcollie - said earlier, reactions give me a town lean but content isn't great, so a smidge of a town lean
Witch of Certainty - meh, null, maybe the slightest scum lean for the post about how we move the game out of the shitposting phase
TWG Jade Harley - has very weak presence so far and seems hung up over their entrance. yeah people are poking at it but you can move on at some point. slight scum lean
thesunfan - idk, I haven't really disliked anything that he's done but there are a few things that I've noticed and that he's now explained. slight town lean
DaBackpack - his burst of posts recently were pretty decent, but I need to see more. slight town lean
Hakulyte - he's comfortable, had a decent enough reaction to me "wolfreading" him and voting him, he seems to also be poking at me which I think wolf haku is less likely to do. strong town lean

a tentative order would look something like

Hakulyte

Charu = MixMasterLar
thesunfan = Prophylaxis
mellonxcollie = DaBackpack

roundbox

Witch of Certainty
ShadoWolfe = TWG Jade Harley
XelNya

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

Okay.

Do you have something you want to talk about?


48/24, I don't keep track of that.



Quite, I'm a fan of entertaining gifs and good music. Oh, and game-related posts that I agree with or at least find have decent reasoning behind them.

do you post a lot or not much usually

idk, I kind of just want to wake up to see you having done some digging, getting too sleepy to ask coherent questions

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

You apparently called her out in #320-something. I didn't even know that was the case until AA mentioned it later when I asked him to check the timeline,

--


I literally asked her to COME BACK AND POST MORE.

Wait


Her first few posts where directly at me when I called her and used the term policy lynch.

She made it very clear

How are you saying you didn't now I did that until AA went through the timeline? Did you completely ignore her posts the first time aroud?



Shado

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

WHAT THE FUCK

I like it because shado seems to have reasoning behind calling your post generalizations etc., not because I agree with him

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I'm 99% sure you defended me not too long ago in a game because someone was scumreading me for being noncommital with my reads

I think it was V from last game

so
why is it now different

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I mean
Shado's analysis is not something I am a fan of
but AA calling it good is worse imo

calm

the fuck

down

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

Oh, and game-related posts that I agree with or at least find have decent reasoning behind them.

Can you share your favorite game-related Charu posts for me? Or at least tell me what they said if you're pressed for time.

Quoting them would be awesome though

[AragakiAyase]

I'm pretty sure I've said multiple times now that your reads list was fairly normal for you, although I thought it was a bit meatier than what I'd have expected at that point in time

If I were a wolf it'd be pretty stupid of me to just 180 like that and say I like shado's attack on your reads list

[thesunfan]

AA posting something I think is bad then abating my worries has been a common theme this game

[AragakiAyase]

it's a good reaction from you though, enough to make me townlean you a *little* bit more

[thesunfan]

he's doing it before I have time to comment on it the first time, like I'm not accusing him of anything there, I should've worded that better

[thesunfan]

fwiw I don't think that the stuff he underlined aside from one line I said about you is at all noncommital for me, its just how I've posted for the past eternity, which is why I have not the easiest time believing that he believes what he laid out there

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

fwiw I don't think that the stuff he underlined aside from one line I said about you is at all noncommital for me, its just how I've posted for the past eternity, which is why I have not the easiest time believing that he believes what he laid out there

idk if shado is calling you noncommital here, more like "lack of examples"

[AragakiAyase]

but I agree that your part about me has examples right there, so...

[Charu]

Uuuugh, every time I go back in here, I just see more posts with lots-o-woooords

Why do I keep trying tonight

[Prophylaxis]

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

I like Backpack's content, as well as his responding to my question eariler by trying to bring up something specific to discuss (as I understood) , so he gets a solid town lean.

Explain to me why you think backpack is town?

Also explain to me what exact thought from me you liked?

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

you can ISO by going to the main forum (the werewolf game one) and clicking the number of posts, which will bring up people who have posted and the # of posts. clicking that post number will iso them, although it's no MU ISO

:/

No full posts make this a dealbreaker for me. I'm familiar with vbulletin ISOs, I just don't like them.

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

You seem to have given an answer before you asked the question.

Just wanted to give my viewpoint on the elephant in the room from the pages I've read.

ShadoW - answer my question?

[MixMasterLar]

I feel someone always has a beef about how SunFan writes his big posts.

Like, the way he constantly uses "fwiw" in a way that almost underlines what he's saying is near meme worthy, but no where near out of character for him.

Basically I don't know if I can really read into that

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

Explain what kind of GOOD READS I have, since I don't think I came with anything too groundbreaking, just read the thread and reported my thoughts. I'm honestly a little surprised that you read my post as that townie given that it's pretty much a single post I could easily fake as scum, as AA can attest.

Lol ninja'd. Also, how would sunfan know your reads are good?

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

715 - I don't think Sunfan/shadoW are w/w, I don't think shadoW takes a dunk on his scumbuddy's post as scum immediately. The lack of vote there is kind of curious, though.

Ehhh. Maybe maybe not. 722 is bizarre coming after that post, where shadoW says that Sunfan is his "top wolf read" and then like OUT OF THE BLUE (Charu's post strong mindmeld btw) talks about mellon. Like, what?

I kept sunfan as my top scum throughout my vote on mellon. If you didn't catch it, I wasn't voting her for being automatically a wolf, I was voting her because she's notoriously good at staying UTR, intercepting pressure on her, talking her way out of it, and then going UTR again. Rinse, repeat to F3 and you have basically summarized her games in CLIX and FE. I wanted to prevent that, but I may have made it worse if she ends up flipping scum.

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

ShadoWolfe - Can you clarify your sunfan/mellon scumreads? Do you think they both can be scum together?

How do you want me to clarify them? I've written a good amount on either, although I'm not so sure mellon is scum. Have you read anything about why I voted her?
As for whether they can be scum together, I think that's an absolute yes.

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

The paranoia about mellon lurking feels kind of genuine from ShadoW, though? I dunno. It's the easiest thing to hit on in the world if he's scum but the sentiment feels /real/.

Yeah, like I said earlier in this post and in this thread, she's really good at diverting attention and staying UTR. She can hate that as much as she likes, but it's probably the reason she's getting so "many votes" as top scum 2016.
Anyways, you continue to assume my vote on her is an instant assumption that she's scum. It's not. Read the posts leading up to my vote. Read my vote itself. Read every post I've made since. Seriously.

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

My view of this is. If mellonx is scum, then she'll be forced to post because lurking as scum kills you as scum. No way lurking scum are going to get to endgame while I'm alive, and scum winning while playing under the radar only seems possible if the rest of the town was not that great. In the games I've played, scum need to post or get lynched.

Eh. Yeah, you need to post as scum. You could also drop in momentarily, divert attention away from you, leave a couple of seemingly genuine posts, and leave for a day (real time) before doing the same thing. Guess who's capable of doing that? dingdingding

Originally Posted by Prophylaxis

ShadoW: Explain these reads?

DBP for his continuously good posts from a seemingly scumhunting perspective when he was catching up.
XelNya I was pretty sure was town, but he's since denied the exact post I was townreading him for, so idk where he stands anymore.

[thesunfan]

my language is memeworthy to the point where I'm rather sure AA could impersonate me in an anon game and have everyone believe that he is me