TWG CLXXVII-The Resident Evil Game(mini version)

[roundbox]

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...d.php?t=148561


here's footage of me wolfing

[roundbox]

if you're gonna vote me, just do it now and get it over with

[Curry and Rice]

Originally Posted by roundbox

if you're gonna vote me, just do it now and get it over with

bite me

roundbox

[star-crossed]

I think Cel is the least likely to be a mafia, between ffa pushing Cel as mafia throughout the day and not choosing to help Cel get on the subject of stuff besides manti by asking Cel questions, raeko's defense of Cel but unwillingness to fully side with Cel, and Cel starting the votes against ffa at the very end. This is one of the only things I feel very confident on. I will not vote for him today.

The main reason I have to think that olimar is not mafia, is the fact that ffa consistently pushed olimar as a serial killer suspect. Because serial killer reads are something that mafia can give genuine thoughts on and show that they are solving, I see it is much more likely ffa believed this, rather than tried to make somebody he knew was mafia and on his team look bad in this convoluted way. The only points toward him being a mafia, I feel, is raeko saying she felt kind of scared of voting him on D1, and possibly the fact that he kept defending ffa. I do not actually think that as the serial killer, he would talk about it the way that he has to us - which I think is the best lead I have on anybody, in terms of not being a serial killer. While I would feel very annoyed to lose to the person who is obviously trying the least out of everyone, my best guess at this point remains that he is a town. The raeko comment is kind of haunting me, to the point that I wish I had not even noticed it, because I don't feel that that one comment should hold more weight than how ffa acted through all of D0 (and seemed like he would have kept with if he had lived).

ffa had an awkward/silly push on roundbox from early on D0 that he did not keep up with, as I have said. rb specifically drew attention to ffa's read on raeko being for a silly reason. rb was around at the end of D0. rb had made a negative comment toward Cel earlier in the day that might help him defend trying to make more of a push on Cel to save ffa (something to do with the Manti stuff); however, he commented on Cel's stronger anger toward Manti, in a pretty neutral way, right at the end of the day when it may have been advantageous to him as a mafia in saving ffa, for him to speak more negatively of Cel. He chose not to vote anybody, but did say he would vote for Cel if somebody else switched to Cel, to avoid a kitb. He seemed very much a deer in the headlights for reasons I do not fully get.

roundb not voting for Curry (or even olimar) on D1 while he and funny, who he was townleaning, could be hanged confuses me a lot. Unless I am not understanding the vote timings and such, it seems like he is overemphasizing this woe-is-me narrative of "I am forced to kill funny to save myself" while not actually trying very hard to make an alternative possible. mellon on D1 voted funnygirl over roundb after a short conversation with him that is shading him about him being quiet here and there. I can kind of see raeko doing that just because funnygirl was susing raeko, though, and not necessarily because rb was mafia.

In summary, I feel the way the dead mafia talked toward him was pretty awkward - they both poked at him but did not follow through with it in any meaningful way (and with raeko actually helping to save him on D1 from dying). What looks good, is that he called out ffa and raeko on D0 as a connection, and that it seemed like he could have made Cel look worse to save ffa on that day as well. But probably the most important thing I would need to understand to feel better about him, is more about what his mindset has been at the ends of the Days, in retrospect.

I am getting to Curry next but I will post this now to give others the chance to respond...I think I have been writing and thinking this over, for over an hour at this point anyway.

[roundbox]

I have a sinking feeling I just wasted a bunch of effort calling curry and rice scum and that he's actually town because of really dumb logic and parallels in my head

more in a bit

[roundbox]

more on this "CRAZY" theory

so curry has had me as his top wolf pick for a bit now, and I was thinking of a line I used to defend myself about him as a line he could use to defend himself from me

so he's had me at the top of his spooky scale for a while now. there was one death last night: zoshi
at this point in the game, a killing power wants to get rid of another killing power because of how close the game is. curry, if he was wanting to get rid of his highest scumlean, he would just blast them.
both players COULD have stacked on Zoshi, but I think both killing powers go after each other at this point. If curry was convinced on me, I'd be dead. his vote on me supports this; I have never, at any point in the game, had a vest. curry would be 100% positive on my alignment if he shot a vest of mine, but he didn't, because he didn't shoot, and I don't have a vest.

soooo

yeah
is curry actually town???

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by roundbox

more on this "CRAZY" theory

so curry has had me as his top wolf pick for a bit now, and I was thinking of a line I used to defend myself about him as a line he could use to defend himself from me

so he's had me at the top of his spooky scale for a while now. there was one death last night: zoshi
at this point in the game, a killing power wants to get rid of another killing power because of how close the game is. curry, if he was wanting to get rid of his highest scumlean, he would just blast them.
both players COULD have stacked on Zoshi, but I think both killing powers go after each other at this point. If curry was convinced on me, I'd be dead. his vote on me supports this; I have never, at any point in the game, had a vest. curry would be 100% positive on my alignment if he shot a vest of mine, but he didn't, because he didn't shoot, and I don't have a vest.

soooo

yeah
is curry actually town???

I kind of cannot really follow most of your theories about why people would make specific kills, so I am focusing on what I get more, which is day stuff. But I will be interested in what inD thinks of this

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by roundbox

more on this "CRAZY" theory

so curry has had me as his top wolf pick for a bit now, and I was thinking of a line I used to defend myself about him as a line he could use to defend himself from me

so he's had me at the top of his spooky scale for a while now. there was one death last night: zoshi
at this point in the game, a killing power wants to get rid of another killing power because of how close the game is. curry, if he was wanting to get rid of his highest scumlean, he would just blast them.
both players COULD have stacked on Zoshi, but I think both killing powers go after each other at this point. If curry was convinced on me, I'd be dead. his vote on me supports this; I have never, at any point in the game, had a vest. curry would be 100% positive on my alignment if he shot a vest of mine, but he didn't, because he didn't shoot, and I don't have a vest.

soooo

yeah
is curry actually town???

he has you as his top wolf, but that doesn't make him 100% positive?

confus

also, i think this is only ruling him out of SK behavior because it'd be harder for wolves to present "real" scum picks to the thread while they aim to lynch town, especially in the early game

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by inDheart

he has you as his top wolf, but that doesn't make him 100% positive?

confus

also, i think this is only ruling him out of SK behavior because it'd be harder for wolves to present "real" scum picks to the thread while they aim to lynch town, especially in the early game

roundbox what do you think of this anyway

[star-crossed]

The only interaction raeko arguably had with Curry is that raeko voted for funnygirl during the end of Day 1 while Curry was kind of an option. It is at 5:55am in my time that Curry is put to 2 votes, and while Cel does unvote before raeko decides to vote for funnygirl, it is within the same minute as raeko's vote (5:58am).

Curry voted raeko at the start of D2, with an italics declaration that wolves may be people not doing much. This was what he said when Cel said she tends to be quiet

Originally Posted by Curry and Rice

Can anyone else corroborate this? I know in a game on NSM, wolf raeko was pretty quiet until called out for it, even though Charu thought she was a human.

It is confusing, because I like that he mentions that he has actual eperience with others being wrong about her while she was being quiet. But him asking for corroboration specifically when he already has the idea that she may always be (from Charu, and from Cel now), seems like it may be done with the intent of giving himself a reason to back off, while still being able to emphasize later that raeko was a "past vote" of his.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

The only interaction raeko arguably had with Curry is that raeko voted for funnygirl during the end of Day 1 while Curry was kind of an option. It is at 5:55am in my time that Curry is put to 2 votes, and while Cel does unvote before raeko decides to vote for funnygirl, it is within the same minute as raeko's vote (5:58am).

Curry voted raeko at the start of D2, with an italics declaration that wolves may be people not doing much. This was what he said when Cel said she tends to be quiet


It is confusing, because I like that he mentions that he has actual eperience with others being wrong about her while she was being quiet. But him asking for corroboration specifically when he already has the idea that she may always be (from Charu, and from Cel now), seems like it may be done with the intent of giving himself a reason to back off, while still being able to emphasize later that raeko was a "past vote" of his.

sorry, where would he have that corroboration from before this game?

i'm not really sure how much attention raeko was paying to the end of day 1, tbh. she had said one total thing about funnygurl before that, nothing about curry, nothing about xel who was somewhat viable (cel wanted to vote him), and popped in to make the one post about olimar. so i think at some point she just decided her vote was going to be on funny regardless of whatever the counter was, and so her lack of a vote on curry isn't so notable

[Curry and Rice]

I'll be back closer to phase end.

[star-crossed]

Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I am going to rest my eyes for a bit because I want to wait up for inD.

[inDheart]

i'm here but i need caffeine because i am wilting fast

star, i agree that olimar really has the only stuff that means anything to being a serial killer or not, i'm just a little bothered still by his "humans don't want to lynch the SK" post today

i said earlier it could mean he's just not aware enough of the game state to even be scum, but if he's one of my clears, then there's only 2 other town posting and that doesn't feel quite right (and would be kind of disappointing)

[inDheart]

i think there's a scum in curry/roundbox, but maybe not both

i think they've both been doing bits of the thing they both say they're not doing and accuse the other of: expressing a high degree of confidence of scumminess of the other player, except at a time when it's stated to be wolfy to believe that because it implies TMI

one thing roundbox has going for him is the way he didn't seem to come into today auto-prepared to bury curry implies he doesn't actually have such knowledge; he posted for a bit before he started casing curry which expands a bit on his "weird fantasy" from late yesterday

i didn't remember many of those posts made by him in CLXXIV, which might be just a testament to how wrong and out of that game i was, and i've apparently completely confused his play there with the TWGood End game

[inDheart]

beyond that i think it's a crapshoot

i really, really would like to be able to clear olimar but i don't know if i can fully, because of some weirdness around him

assuming there's only one in curry/roundbox means there's one in star/cel if i clear him, and they're both like, rather towny with cel having rather less wolf equity between them

[Celirra]

I've read everything and stuff

I don't mind roundbox lynch

I like my tinfoil of star kinda still but not as much

Curry I have no clue about if I had to be honest, his general style is one that inherently comes off as scummy to me, which I'm trying to overcome this game which might be why I can't see him as too scummy for some weird reason.

Olimar is clear to me, I think I've gone over it and tbh there's not a ton *to* say given how little he's given us; it sounds bad but if he is scum I would consider it a win for us regardless given he hasn't really played and maybe should've been modkilled but I shouldn't go down this route

InD is almost as cute as me

I'll give more info on roundbox lunch once I get home from playing pump

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Celirra

I've read everything and stuff

I don't mind roundbox lynch

I like my tinfoil of star kinda still but not as much

Curry I have no clue about if I had to be honest, his general style is one that inherently comes off as scummy to me, which I'm trying to overcome this game which might be why I can't see him as too scummy for some weird reason.

Olimar is clear to me, I think I've gone over it and tbh there's not a ton *to* say given how little he's given us; it sounds bad but if he is scum I would consider it a win for us regardless given he hasn't really played and maybe should've been modkilled but I shouldn't go down this route

InD is almost as cute as me

I'll give more info on roundbox lunch once I get home from playing pump

i would want to lynch this post but not really the next post

aaaaagh

[Curry and Rice]

It's even worse because there are a bunch of people who should be here but aren't.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by inDheart

i would want to lynch this post but not really the next post

aaaaagh

how do you like him being apathetic to town's wincon

have I not been actively hunting scum and doing work within this phase and last???