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Old 08-3-2008, 09:50 AM   #81
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So what you are saying is that I should spontaneously be a dick to you, yet I should say nothing, and talk about sex a lot.

Uhhh huh.
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Old 08-3-2008, 10:30 AM   #82
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Well, I could go for an asshole from time to time.
Girls like guys that are a little up themselves.


You've got the cute sweet guys;
Very quiet. Kind of a Pretty Boy. Is one for being spontaneous.

- Good catch. Only Short term relationships, often because it gets way to boring for the girl.


And the;

Complete Dick Guys;
Extremely good looking. Romantic. Talks about Sex alot [though probably has not had sex].

- Believe it or not, Best for long term relationships. Exciting. Though they don't have much respect for female property.



Most guys fall into either of the above two categories.
If you could get somewhere in between that, then you have it in the bag.




Shut up whore. I didn't say you could talk.
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Old 08-3-2008, 10:36 AM   #83
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So what you are saying is that I should spontaneously be a dick to you, yet I should say nothing, and talk about sex a lot.

Uhhh huh.


Hahahaha!
No.

Be FIT;
A Dick.
Romantic.
And A Show Off.


However misguidedly I was actually trying to get you to use your brains.
(:
Perhaps if you were a little more open-minded, girls wouldn't be as hard to understand as you make them out to be.

-x-

Hmph. Call me a whore. Asshole.




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Old 08-3-2008, 10:43 AM   #84
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Hmph. Call me a whore. Asshole.




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Old 08-3-2008, 11:33 AM   #85
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Acting like this is really only going to land you certain types of women. Specifically, ones that are usually immature, not confident nor independent. I don't know any women that don't meet these criteria that would put up with douchebaggery for any length of time. There's a huge difference between exuding confidence and being a jerk. That is, real gentlemen practice the former and losers that go through girls like hotcakes practice the latter.
This couldn't be further from the truth. I've been with many confident, mature, well-to-do women, many of which were very accomplished.

By "being a douchebag" I don't mean act like an obnoxious jerk. I am referring to a sort of "overextended charisma," where I mean that you essentially fake the confidence, even if you don't have it. Acting like an asshole-jerk will only land you women with low self-esteem who are drawn to the high energy and type of humor. But being bold/brash/charismatic/confident, you are more likely to appeal to women who also tend to exude confidence/independence/charisma, and these girls tend to be quality.

I refer to this as "being a douchebag" because, to me, it's a sort of greedy, overextended way to take a mile when you're given an inch. Your natural inclination is to be set in a certain type of confidence level/a certain type of interaction, but it's a real douchebag thing to do to overextend yourself into a higher confidence and essentially "steal" girls away from people who actually have confidence.

I actually do have a fair degree of confidence, but I used to have quite a few self-esteem issues. I always faked my confidence, and I found that it attracted many high-quality girls. After a while though, faking the confidence wears away as it turns into real confidence. Confidence becomes reinforced when you have repeated success as a result of your efforts. So, in result, it starts melting from a sort of false confidence to real confidence, and the effort to attract females then becomes more natural.
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Old 08-3-2008, 11:35 AM   #86
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i'm doing what you said


LOL.
And some girls would love you for it.
(: I certainly thought better of you. =P


MrRubix is right.
Be a Douchebag.

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Old 08-3-2008, 11:37 AM   #87
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Being a "jerk" is only good for a sort of short-term attraction, but it's very effective as a type of hook. Of course, as I said before, you need to know when to turn it off.

A lot of girls complain that "non-jerks" are boring. Too many "nice doormats" who will try to be kind/romantic to a girl, but eventually rejected in favor of someone "more exciting." This, too, is a function of confidence. If a guy is willing to bend over backwards for a girl and do everything she wants at her whim, as well as deal with a lot of unnecessary "crap/abuse," then it's pretty clear that the guy's a doormat. This is the ultimate showing of a lack of confidence, because it shows that one is desperate and will do everything asked of him in order to try to keep someone. Unfortunately, it sends the opposite message. It sends the signal that you have no confidence, and in turn, the woman will start to lose respect. And relationships just don't function without that.

Of course, don't be on the other end of this spectrum either. You can't be an asshole with absolutely no regard for the feelings of others, who does nothing but take without giving in a relationship. By being overly aggressive, you're going to only land the kind of girls who are easily taken advantage by such slights, and they tend to not be very high-quality at all.

By being in the middle ground -- assertive, you will have the best luck. You can still be nice/respectful to women, but you still need to respect your boundaries. It's a sort of message that says "I will be the best partner that I can to you, but if you overstep this boundary, I am going to show you and let you know that this is definitely not okay." You can still exude the confidence that attracts, but you can still be exciting and wild, and yet good to women.

It's not like some sort of mutually exclusive function here. You can still be "the nice guy" to a woman and yet still exciting. It's just a matter of confidence, and sticking to your priorities, boundaries, morals, and treating women with respect.

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Old 08-3-2008, 11:58 AM   #88
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Why has nobody made a connection between the thread title and the song yet? -__-'
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Old 08-3-2008, 12:12 PM   #89
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Why has nobody made a connection between the thread title and the song yet? -__-'
Ew. Avril Lavigne.

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I completely love how you put that MrRubix.

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Being a "jerk" is only good for a sort of short-term attraction, but it's very effective as a type of hook. Of course, as I said before, you need to know when to turn it off.

A lot of girls complain that "non-jerks" are boring. Too many "nice doormats" who will try to be kind/romantic to a girl, but eventually rejected in favor of someone "more exciting." This, too, is a function of confidence. If a guy is willing to bend over backwards for a girl and do everything she wants at her whim, as well as deal with a lot of unnecessary "crap/abuse," then it's pretty clear that the guy's a doormat. This is the ultimate showing of a lack of confidence, because it shows that one is desperate and will do everything asked of him in order to try to keep someone. Unfortunately, it sends the opposite message. It sends the signal that you have no confidence, and in turn, the woman will start to lose respect. And relationships just don't function without that.

Of course, don't be on the other end of this spectrum either. You can't be an asshole with absolutely no regard for the feelings of others, who does nothing but take without giving in a relationship. By being overly aggressive, you're going to only land the kind of girls who are easily taken advantage by such slights, and they tend to not be very high-quality at all.

By being in the middle ground -- assertive, you will have the best luck. You can still be nice/respectful to women, but you still need to respect your boundaries. It's a sort of message that says "I will be the best partner that I can to you, but if you overstep this boundary, I am going to show you and let you know that this is definitely not okay." You can still exude the confidence that attracts, but you can still be exciting and wild, and yet good to women.

It's not like some sort of mutually exclusive function here. You can still be "the nice guy" to a woman and yet still exciting. It's just a matter of confidence, and sticking to your priorities, boundaries, morals, and treating women with respect.

Everybody should listen to Rubix. What he's saying is a proof that he know the subject What he said makes a lot of sense.
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Old 08-3-2008, 12:33 PM   #91
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This couldn't be further from the truth. I've been with many confident, mature, well-to-do women, many of which were very accomplished.

By "being a douchebag" I don't mean act like an obnoxious jerk. I am referring to a sort of "overextended charisma," where I mean that you essentially fake the confidence, even if you don't have it. Acting like an asshole-jerk will only land you women with low self-esteem who are drawn to the high energy and type of humor. But being bold/brash/charismatic/confident, you are more likely to appeal to women who also tend to exude confidence/independence/charisma, and these girls tend to be quality.

I refer to this as "being a douchebag" because, to me, it's a sort of greedy, overextended way to take a mile when you're given an inch. Your natural inclination is to be set in a certain type of confidence level/a certain type of interaction, but it's a real douchebag thing to do to overextend yourself into a higher confidence and essentially "steal" girls away from people who actually have confidence.

I actually do have a fair degree of confidence, but I used to have quite a few self-esteem issues. I always faked my confidence, and I found that it attracted many high-quality girls. After a while though, faking the confidence wears away as it turns into real confidence. Confidence becomes reinforced when you have repeated success as a result of your efforts. So, in result, it starts melting from a sort of false confidence to real confidence, and the effort to attract females then becomes more natural.
Well, we don't disagree then. Middle ground is best. You want to be interesting but still treat her well.

I just wouldn't use the same set of words to describe the behavior. When I think of douchebags I generally think of the lowlifes that bag many low self esteem women with their ridiculous behavior, more towards the lines of what you said here: "Of course, don't be on the other end of this spectrum either. You can't be an asshole with absolutely no regard for the feelings of others...etc".
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Old 08-3-2008, 12:43 PM   #92
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I kinda wish there was a place on this forum to discuss interpersonal relationships/sex/personal issue sort of stuff... it can get pretty interesting and informative if done correctly, but unfortunately FFR is likely not the ideal place for it.
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I kinda wish there was a place on this forum to discuss interpersonal relationships/sex/personal issue sort of stuff... it can get pretty interesting and informative if done correctly, but unfortunately FFR is likely not the ideal place for it.
I wish it too. We still can ask it in the suggestion forum tho. If we have some good moderators in that forum, we can make it a good place for those kind of thing. I think that you have an exelent potential of being a moderator for that forum. I think that everyone share my opinion too.
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I personally don't like the job functions of forum moderation, so I'd likely have to pass on such a thing. Besides, I'd probably get bored and start doing foolish things. I'd be a pretty bad moderator.
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I'd be a pretty bad moderator.
makes sense considering your main is banned and you're posting from an alt
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there are plenty of websites that specialize in the line of topics/discussion you're referencing. FFR isn't one of them.
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she asked him to be her boyfriend -.-
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I actually do have a fair degree of confidence, but I used to have quite a few self-esteem issues. I always faked my confidence, and I found that it attracted many high-quality girls. After a while though, faking the confidence wears away as it turns into real confidence. Confidence becomes reinforced when you have repeated success as a result of your efforts. So, in result, it starts melting from a sort of false confidence to real confidence, and the effort to attract females then becomes more natural.
Sigh. This is exactly the same thing one of my best friends has been talking about for a while. Good strategy.
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