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Old 11-29-2007, 11:09 PM   #81
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lol guess not

give me 2 weeks and ill have the system + game (if i can find one.) then we can c0ck out together
I still haven't taken the time to connect my 360 to my LAN yet.

Also: I was at Best Buy today and they had a ****ton of 360 bundles available.
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Old 11-30-2007, 12:40 PM   #82
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If anyone wants to play my Gamer Tag on xbox live tag is the same as this name!
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Old 12-2-2007, 12:48 AM   #83
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I got it for the PS3. Fiddled around tonight on drums, etc. I'm not really very good at them yet, as hitting the bass pedal etc while hitting upper things and off and on and bum-bum real quicklike is throwing me off.

Give me time. I am tired and I played for a long time in addition to working out a bunch before hand and entertaining guests at a party so god i'm tired
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Old 12-2-2007, 05:59 PM   #84
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Have you been paying attention at all?

360, dude.

Oh and about singing: it seems like sometimes no matter how I bend my pitch, it doesn't acknowledge it. Like, I'll be singing and doing fine, then a few notes will be lower. I'll lower my pitch and it won't be enough for it, so I lower it even more and it does nothing. So I lower it as low as is possible for me (ie all the way down to a bass-hum), and it still does nothing. At times like these, my only choice to not do poorly would be to actually bend my pitch UP and sing the particular note like I'm on a different octave. That is ****ed up... Is anyone else having trouble with their singing pitch simply being IGNORED for no reason? Like... I'm ****ing singing at the lowest point that is physically possible for me (and that's not even really singing at that point, just a bassy hum) and it's telling me I'm still too high (in fact, it acts as though I've not changed my pitch at all).
What difficulty are you playing on? Easy is a lolfest, and medium is fun. Playing on hard or expert is an anti-fun way of forcing yourself to try to abuse the system as much as possible, unless you know the tone and lyrics well, and it's very much within your range. Even then, held notes are too much of a benefit, and notes that slide up or down in pitch have to be thoroughly exaggerated. Sometimes there are subtle pitch changes in the vocals of the song not included in the game, so of course, hard and expert are stingy enough to penalize you for singing correctly. Hard and expert could really only be worth playing for bragging rights, which is silly.

Oh, playing guitar and singing is fun as hell. It's just really hard. Playing drums and singing, on the other hand, is very incapacitating, and not very fun at all.
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Old 12-2-2007, 06:19 PM   #85
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I was playing on medium. I've found that some songs I can get through well, other songs I can barely pass, and other songs I fail miserably. And this is all with using the same skill level for all-- seriously trying to sing and not ****ing around humming and **** to get through.
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Old 12-2-2007, 06:35 PM   #86
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I was playing on medium. I've found that some songs I can get through well, other songs I can barely pass, and other songs I fail miserably. And this is all with using the same skill level for all-- seriously trying to sing and not ****ing around humming and **** to get through.
The difficulty of singing each song is pretty random throughout. I haven't had any problems with medium myself, though, so I can't help you there.
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Old 12-2-2007, 10:05 PM   #87
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As for singing and drumming, which I had earlier promised - I drummed and sang Creep by Radiohead tonight, both on medium, and got 98% on the drums and 99% on the vocals. I am most pleased with this.
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Old 12-2-2007, 10:33 PM   #88
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Since playing drums and singing are both almost the exact same as doing them in real life, let me say that the ability to do both at the same time means you are awesome. Managing four harmonized limbs at once is one thing, because they're in pairs doing virtually the same thing - counting.

Adding pitch in to the mix is absolutely mindboggling. I can't do the simplest singing while doing the simplest beats on the drums - I forget about one or the other and inevitably **** up.

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Old 12-2-2007, 10:39 PM   #89
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When I was ~5 years old I could sing really terribly and play simple drumbeats at the same time. My songwriting ability obviously was not that good, and my dad was not that great on guitar, so it sucked.

Moral of the story: I can't wait to try that on Rock Band
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How are you guys pulling off singing and playing at the same time? Mic stand? I considered fabricating a rig out of a coat hanger or something, but decided against it since I wasn't sure if it would be worth ruining a hanger for it.
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Old 12-2-2007, 11:45 PM   #91
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I've heard of people rigging it up with some string and a ceiling fan. You could be creative and find some other ceiling-based rig to fit your setup.
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Old 12-2-2007, 11:58 PM   #92
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I've heard of people rigging it up with some string and a ceiling fan. You could be creative and find some other ceiling-based rig to fit your setup.
That sounds rather unpleasant to the functionality/appearance of my room as a whole. I meant something like this:

Just bend the wire hanger so it'll go around my neck and hold the mic for me.
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Old 12-3-2007, 06:37 AM   #93
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That sounds rather unpleasant to the functionality/appearance of my room as a whole. I meant something like this:

Just bend the wire hanger so it'll go around my neck and hold the mic for me.
I had my sister hold the mic for me.
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Old 12-3-2007, 05:54 PM   #94
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I used a headset. I played Here It Goes Again, with singing on hard and drums on expert. I really only get wrecked by the singing, with has barely noticeable pitch changes during some parts of the real song that, of course, you have to take EXTREMELY literally in the game. Knowing the words or anything but the chorus probably would've helped, but still, the singing on it is just annoying. I could probably do most of the tier 1-4 (drums world tour) stuff on drums and sing pretty well, as long as the singing part isn't too hard. I just don't find it to be nearly as fun as playing guitar and singing.

I played Enter Sandman on hard on both guitar and singing, and that was really, really fun. The funny part is that I had to look at the words for the song more than I did for the guitar notechart.
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Old 12-4-2007, 01:29 AM   #95
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I wish I could play this game >=(

I probably said it before, but all of my friends suck at singing and I actually enjoy it, so I'm hoping it's actually fun. I'd get SingStar, except SingStar sucks. Except for that one. That one I'm not willing to pay $40 to have.

Also, I don't see what'd be hard about singing and playing drums. If it's a song you know (AKA listened to it twice or more), you should be able to sing and do ANYTHING. Heck, I sing and finger-drum while I drive.

Won't get to play until some time around the winter break. Only one guy in my group of friends has it and he's a friend of a friend so I can't just go over there. You know how it--

HOLY CRAP THIS GAME HAS SOUNDGARDEN? EPIC. CAN'T WAIT TO SING IT.

God I love Soundgarden. First band I ever bought a CD from. One of the only CDs I bought, even.

Haha, it has Run to the Hills too? Awesome.

In case you couldn't tell, I never looked up a song list for this game.

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Also, I don't see what'd be hard about singing and playing drums. If it's a song you know (AKA listened to it twice or more), you should be able to sing and do ANYTHING. Heck, I sing and finger-drum while I drive.
You may not see what'd be hard, but I sure do. I sang in choirs for years, so I'm no stranger to that, and I played the drums on expert on the demo (I know I'd get ruined by that foot pedal, though, until I got to play it a lot), but doing those things together is NOT easy for me. I try finger drumming while singing in the car, but one of them quickly diverts my attention from the other.

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Old 12-4-2007, 01:59 AM   #97
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I was in choir too.

That's why I really can't see the difficulty. In choir, I could sing while fixing the sound system. Juuust fine.

And since I was the only person with technical know-how back in the day, this was frequent.

'course, I only did choir because I was in a catholic school and the choir sat up in the balcony, not down in the pews on the floor.

I mean, it can't be too hard. Almost every band I know has a lead singer who also plays an instrument. Sometimes two or three. Granted, it's usually not drums, but it can be.

Anyway, I found the Stepmania of SingStar so I'm gonna go enjoy that.

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I was in choir too.

That's why I really can't see the difficulty. In choir, I could sing while fixing the sound system. Juuust fine.

And since I was the only person with technical know-how back in the day, this was frequent.

'course, I only did choir because I was in a catholic school and the choir sat up in the balcony, not down in the pews on the floor.

I mean, it can't be too hard. Almost every band I know has a lead singer who also plays an instrument. Sometimes two or three. Granted, it's usually not drums, but it can be.
The difference between singing while playing drums and playing any other instrument is that drums is a matter of managing multiple rhythms at the same time. The main reason most people can finger drum fine but can't keep rhythm on a drumset is the main reason most drummers can't sing while drumming - it's introducing more rhythms than they're used to. Drummers have learned how to use all four limbs simultaneously without hesitation, but most people focus too much on either feet or hands first time on a drumset and as a result their playing becomes sounds really sloppy, especially since it takes precision to play.

It's the same thing for drummers. Introducing a fifth element of rhythm (well, fourth for Rock Band) that isn't physical and also requires pitch accuracy takes a ridiculous amount of coordination. It takes years to do it well enough for live performances.
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You also have to know all of the lyrics and all of the little pitch changes throughout the song, or you have to try to guess drum patterns and look at the top of the screen for some parts. If you throw everything on expert, and play something other than one of the REALLY EASY songs, it'll be very hard.
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