Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! - Page 5

**Shashakiro** · 07-24-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRapingDragon

People had more trust in your file being good, and so a lot of people felt let down, I guess that just means they have more criticism.

That's reasonable, although why anyone would expect a great file from me when I have essentially never released a single file before (the two I have were terrible and I didn't know what I was doing).

Honestly, my priorities with this file were (in order):

1. make it hard but AAA'able
2. make it fun

I CAN make a quality file if I want, but I chose difficulty over quality this time. And apparently, it's impossible to have both in FFR.

oh and also, I don't think Kilga got this kind of response when he released Balloon Fever. Granted, it's not nearly as hard, but still.

**talisman** · 07-24-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shash

my steps actually go to the music

ROFL

**Shashakiro** · 07-24-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by talisman

ROFL

They actually do.

Jumpstream goes to the music for a LOT of songs, including this one.

T0rajir0u · 07-24-2006, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shashakiro

They actually do.

Jumpstream goes to the music for a LOT of songs, including this one.

entirely true

the red arrow syndrome is the most annoying thing about this file to me personally, cant read the jumpstream for **** that way =/

**Snapps** · 07-24-2006, 10:25 PM

Shash plain and simple stop trying to make it as hard as you can and making every single sound go to a note.

sertman · 07-24-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Shashakiro

That's reasonable, although why anyone would expect a great file from me when I have essentially never released a single file before (the two I have were terrible and I didn't know what I was doing).

Honestly, my priorities with this file were (in order):

1. make it hard but AAA'able
2. make it fun

I CAN make a quality file if I want, but I chose difficulty over quality this time. And apparently, it's impossible to have both in FFR.

oh and also, I don't think Kilga got this when he released Balloon Fever.

The problem is that it's not fun. I don't know how the hell ANYONE can read the long, stream of red arrows, but it's not fun to mindlessly mash. Maybe you don't know because you can read it just fine, but it's like playing Quasar Oni on 1x flat.

**-Fallen-** · 07-24-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shashakiro

That's reasonable, although why anyone would expect a great file from me when I have essentially never released a single file before (the two I have were terrible and I didn't know what I was doing).

Honestly, my priorities with this file were (in order):

1. make it hard but AAA'able
2. make it fun

I CAN make a quality file if I want, but I chose difficulty over quality this time. And apparently, it's impossible to have both in FFR.

oh and also, I don't think Kilga got this kind of response when he released Balloon Fever. Granted, it's not nearly as hard, but still.

Are you ****ting me? That file is a total piece of **** even on Stepmania. He pretty much started the beggining of bull**** files. Then shortly after came Nova Pulser and all that garbage..

**talisman** · 07-24-2006, 10:27 PM

I'm being completely honest when I say that I don't think they go to the music at all.

**Shashakiro** · 07-24-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sertman

The problem is that it's not fun. I don't know how the hell ANYONE can read the long, stream of red arrows, but it's not fun to mindlessly mash. Maybe you don't know because you can read it just fine, but it's like playing Quasar Oni on 1x flat.

I was more illustrating the point that I was going for difficulty over fun factor. They go hand in hand for me anyway, but not for a lot of people.

I honestly didn't expect it to be nearly as hard as it is. Then again, I didn't expect red note syndrome to happen either. I was honestly expecting that Tier 1 people would FC with good PA, that Tier 2 people would FC, and that other people would get some misses...not that Tier 1 would FC and that no one else would be able to read the file.

p.s. Talisman, they do, whether or not you think they do.

T0rajir0u · 07-24-2006, 10:31 PM

people would probably be a little calmer if the red arrows were fixed

**talisman** · 07-24-2006, 10:32 PM

I grant you that there's like nonstop sixteenth notes going on in that song... but the arrows did not follow the pattern of the music.

**Shashakiro** · 07-24-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by talisman

I grant you that there's like nonstop sixteenth notes going on in that song... but the arrows did not follow the pattern of the music.

Most of the file is 16ths (which are in the music) with jumps ever 4th note (also in the music) and on some other notes, but on all the other notes there's an exrta hard beat in the song.

EDIT: Oh, and if you're talking about the gap being off, it is, but again, that's not my fault ><

**Tasselfoot** · 07-24-2006, 10:39 PM

SERT: I'm pretty sure the file Jimerax submitted is differen than the one you're working on... I'm pretty sure the one you're working on is the same one that Psycho is working on. And apparently since you both are almost finished, I'll have 2 files for the same song to compare and then pick which one I think is better.

T0rajir0u · 07-24-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by talisman

the arrows did not follow the pattern of the music.

This is being way too picky for FFR. Pretty much every file on FFR is like that. Singling out Shash's is just bandwagoning.

**talisman** · 07-24-2006, 10:40 PM

yeah obviously there's a 4/4 kick in the background the whole time. that doesn't mean you have to step it. the sixteenths are not the same as the kick... if there's an emphasis in the sixteenth synth **** or whatever, then you put a double in. otherwise it's just trying to step too much at once and you end up with an unfun mess.

edit: at toja I'm picking on his because it's new. I did the same to the files I found ****ty earlier, and will continue to do so if I want I suppose...

T0rajir0u · 07-24-2006, 10:42 PM

Again. Way too picky for FFR.

**Reach** · 07-24-2006, 10:42 PM

The red arrows are the biggest problem.

It turns an annoying set, yet still possible set of steps into a ****ing retarded and stupid piece of garbage because I can't see anything. I really don't know how you can read it.

Somehow I still almost fc'd it XD

Hell, you know how you could fix SO MANY PROBLEMS with SO MANY FILES!??!!?

SPEEDMODS!

I realize you guys are working on r3 but are speed mods thatttttttttttttt hard to inpliment?

I mean, SPINITUP GETS SPEEDMODS and DOESN"T EVEN NEED THEM! XD

**Snapps** · 07-24-2006, 10:54 PM

Yeah so I think we can all fix this problem by releasing Zagh's file next week.

Ninja_Monkey · 07-24-2006, 11:02 PM

I think you threw in random BS arrows just to make it have a 1337 full combo lol

**Shashakiro** · 07-24-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja_Monkey

I think you threw in random BS arrows just to make it have a 1337 full combo lol

I swear on the grave of my grandfather that that was a COMPLETE coincidence that I didn't even notice until after I FC'd it for the first time in SM.

07-24-2006, 10:25 PM	#85
Snapps NO DOUBT GET LOUD Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Age: 35 Posts: 5,650	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! Shash plain and simple stop trying to make it as hard as you can and making every single sound go to a note.

07-24-2006, 10:27 PM	#88
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 4,598	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! I'm being completely honest when I say that I don't think they go to the music at all.

07-24-2006, 10:31 PM	#90
T0rajir0u FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: awsome Posts: 2,946	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! people would probably be a little calmer if the red arrows were fixed __________________ hehe

07-24-2006, 10:32 PM	#91
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 4,598	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! I grant you that there's like nonstop sixteenth notes going on in that song... but the arrows did not follow the pattern of the music.

07-24-2006, 10:39 PM	#93
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 42 Posts: 25,185	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! SERT: I'm pretty sure the file Jimerax submitted is differen than the one you're working on... I'm pretty sure the one you're working on is the same one that Psycho is working on. And apparently since you both are almost finished, I'll have 2 files for the same song to compare and then pick which one I think is better. __________________ RIP

07-24-2006, 10:40 PM	#95
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 4,598	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! yeah obviously there's a 4/4 kick in the background the whole time. that doesn't mean you have to step it. the sixteenths are not the same as the kick... if there's an emphasis in the sixteenth synth ** or whatever, then you put a double in. otherwise it's just trying to step too much at once and you end up with an unfun mess. edit: at toja I'm picking on his because it's new. I did the same to the files I found **ty earlier, and will continue to do so if I want I suppose...

07-24-2006, 10:42 PM	#96
T0rajir0u FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: awsome Posts: 2,946	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! Again. Way too picky for FFR. __________________ hehe

07-24-2006, 10:42 PM	#97
Reach FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 7,471	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! The red arrows are the biggest problem. It turns an annoying set, yet still possible set of steps into a ***ing retarded and stupid piece of garbage because I can't see anything. I really don't know how you can read it. Somehow I still almost fc'd it XD Hell, you know how you could fix SO MANY PROBLEMS with SO MANY FILES!??!!? SPEEDMODS! I realize you guys are working on r3 but are speed mods thatttttttttttttt hard to inpliment? I mean, SPINITUP GETS SPEEDMODS and DOESN"T EVEN NEED THEM! XD __________________ Last edited by Reach; 07-24-2006 at 10:48 PM..*

07-24-2006, 10:54 PM	#98
Snapps NO DOUBT GET LOUD Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Age: 35 Posts: 5,650	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! Yeah so I think we can all fix this problem by releasing Zagh's file next week.

07-24-2006, 11:02 PM	#99
Ninja_Monkey FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandler AZ Age: 35 Posts: 189	Re: Exciting Hyper Highspeed high score! I think you threw in random BS arrows just to make it have a 1337 full combo lol __________________ Click For My Music! Things I'm proud of in Step Mania: AAAs- Angel Eyes, Wait!, Ageha, War Game, V3 Others-FC Emerald Sword, AA Salieri Strikes Back, AA Strangeprogram

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