Sony PSP vs. Nintendo DS?

[evilbutterfly]

I just hope the PSP doesn't break as much as the PS2 does. Then again, the only part that breaks on my PS2s is the part that reads PS1 discs, so PSP won't have that problem.

Oh wel, we shall see...

[Sinjin]

An interesting thing about console wars is that people bash other systems, but everyone knows if they had enough money they'd buy them anyway.

I love Nintendo because it always comes out with spectacular games for it's first-party licenses (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc.). I want the PSP because it would be cool to have portable versions of games like FFVII...the square RPG's are probably some of my favourite games of all time.

Whatever, I'm broke-ass anyway, so I guess my input on this debate is worthless.

[Moogy]

I will never buy a PSP or an XBOX. I have enough money, easily. But I will not buy them because they suck shit.

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

Agreed ^.

[Kenzya]

Right.. PSP isn't even out yet and you're saying it sucks.. which makes your opinion in this thing even less.. important.. Makes you look like a fanboy :/

[Rustingmoon]

It also seems that the DS is going to have more third-party developers. The unique dual-screen draws many of them to come up with a new style of gameplay, which has a major impact on the market if it goes right.

[Kefit]

Just to clear things up, the PSP will use UMDs. They are a new kind of mini disc that Sony has developed.

[dmleet]

Originally Posted by Kenzya

Right.. PSP isn't even out yet and you're saying it sucks.. which makes your opinion in this thing even less.. important.. Makes you look like a fanboy :/

The specs say it say sucks. Battery life is the most important to portables. Really, the best thing PSP has over the DS is the graphics and the amount of polygons it can handle: almost as much as PS2. But remember, SONY HAS LIED ABOUT IT, at the time PS2 was just coming out. They were lying about the performance of the PS2. Plus, UMDs are just introduced so you can't do much stuff with it, and it will force you to buy, say, a movie you liked that you already have, in a UMD disc. What a waste of money. And did I mention cds are more prone to errors than cartridges?

No, I don't have problems with money, it's just that you have to buy a shitty Memory Stick to save games, when I can do it on DS without any additional accessory. It's like buy the portable, the games, have fun.

Whoever posts the message that said DS copied the PlayStation controller design is an idiot. If it did, where is the analog? It copied the SNES controller.

[suicidalmuskrat]

firstly...portable systems as a whole are aimed at children...i can't help but laugh when i see a 30 something business man on the subway playing video games...hence nintendo's aim at children in marketing...they do, however, cater to other age groups...secondly, the PSP does look very cool, but it has no cover, so how cool is the case going to look (i can't just imagine someone bragging about their sexy hip PSP, only to have to cary it around in a case very similar to the game gear-esque purse case)...also, the two really aren't in direct competition...in a way they are, because most people won't be buying both, but the products aren't really that similiar. sony is trying to make consoles portable, whereas nintendo is trying to create new dimensions for gaming. granted, most of the games i've seen so far don't look that great, but just wait until the 2nd and third wave games, you should be seeing things that you've never seen before...i don't understand sony's idea here...let's make a portable system that plays movies, music, and games...ok, that works...now let's introduce a new format of disc for it. ok, that's stupid. i'm not going to be able to rent UMD's from blockbuster, and if i have to choose to buy a movie for my DVD player, computer, and PS2, or buy the same movie for my PSP, i'm obviously going to go with the regular DVD.....nextly, the stylus for the DS is not (or should not) be a selling point...it'll be a perk for messaging, doodling, etc...the whole tapping thing to shoot or whatever is stupid, and will fade away as companies realize this...but even if that goes away, there is still the touch screen, the voice recognition, and the online play...they could create an online goldeneye with voicechat like SOCOM...
PRIMARY CONCERN FOR DS: too many remakes of remakes with a stupid map put at the bottom, causing the system to flop before the true potential is realized.
PRIMARY CONCERN FOR PSP: the quality of the machine, UMD's skipping, TWO AND A HALF HOUR BATTERY LIFE??? (ok, so i buy a movie on UMD format, just for the hell of it...DOES FRODO SAVE THE DAY?? I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE MY BATTERY JUST RAN OUT...300 dollars + 2.5 hour battery life = rich silly people)...

portable games were meant to be put on cartridges...nintendo is going to be able to shock us all by putting their great games online, whereas sony has already done this with PS2, so they will not shock us in any way...if you're that desperate to play a crappy metal gear title for a short car ride, buy PSP...if ya want quality and innovation at a cheaper price, buy DS...

^^^^MY LONGEST POST EVER^^^^

[evilbutterfly]

For the record, minidiscs don't skip that easily at all even years ago when they were first coming out. Also, even the cheapest MD players let you record stuff on the MDs, too. Now, the only exposure I've had to MDs was a few years back when my sister got one, and I can only assume that they've gotten much better since then. That would lead me to believe that the PSP would be able to write to the MDs. Thus, you wouldn't necessarily need a memory stick to save your game. Also, MDs don't look like CDs, don't break like CDs, and don't skip as easily as CDs.

Although, the battery life in the PSP will be a problem if it indeed is only 2.5 hours. Are you guys sure that's what it is, because that's just ridiculously low.

I still say that all this arguing is pretty pointless. We won't know which is better until a long while after they both come out, so we're really wasting our time here.

[jewpinthethird]

The DS is more of a portiable game device.

The PSP is more of a portiable entertainment system that can play games.

[dmleet]

Originally Posted by evilbutterfly

I still say that all this arguing is pretty pointless. We won't know which is better until a long while after they both come out, so we're really wasting our time here.

What I'm doing is to convince people to buy DS, bash the PSP. What Sony is basically doing is to start from scratch, trial and error. I might buy the successor to the PSP; they will learn more the next time Sony makes another portable. And can possibly put an end to Nintendo's "lock" to the handheld gaming.

[suicidalmuskrat]

first of all, these aren't mini-discs...these are ultra mini-discs, or something...so we don't know how well the will work (i.e. if you turn it upside down)...but i can tell ya right now that they will skip if they get scratched...and who knows if they will be easily resurfaced or not? (i haven't seen a good picture of one yet to know if they will work with most industrial resurfacing machines)...next...jewpin will be right by saying it's a portable entertainment system, IF they were to make a flash drive adapter or something to that extent...where you could save DVD's onto your computer and then transfer them to the 'memory stick'...that would make sense...making us by new discs of CDs we already own, and new discs for DVD's we already own will not really qualifty it as a portable entertainment system...it will qualify it as a portable pain in the ass

[sloppysomething]

psp
ask me why and i can give you a good reason or 2 or eighteen

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

Start listing 18.

[Kenzya]

First of all..
Nintendo 64..
cartridges.. held less information and the cartridges cost more..
I'm guessing it'll be the same here..

I don't understand the argument.. Sony hasn't done handheld before so I won't get it..

They never did consoles before but guess what? Sony playstation was a big hit. That says.. a lot..

But also the battery life.. anyone here who is pro Nintendo DS keeps saying it's 2.5 hours.. I've heard it can be anywhere from 2.5 hours to 10 hours.. but they'll most likely work to make it more.. THERE IS NO FACT RIGHT NOW..

Oh yeah.. and the Xbox has built in hardrive which can save games on. But I have to lug my Xbox over to a friend's house, which he already has an xbox, when I want to play a game with my saved game. It's different now because they're portable systems but it's still basically the same thing.

Turning the system upside down with a UMD in it will do nothing. -.-

[evilbutterfly]

I'm guessing that a lot of you have never seen a mini-disc. It's not a disc at all. It's like a floppy disc in that the disc is there inside a plastic case. They don't get scratched ever because the plastic protects them. They're just as sturdy as a cartridge but don't have the problem of the connectors getting dusty or worn down. Only real drawback is that there are more moving parts, but if they aren't terribly shitty they won't break very often.

I'll try and see if my sister still has her MD player or at least a few MDs so I can take a picture and show you guys what they look like. They're pretty cool, and I think they'll work just fine in a portable device. Besides, how often are you gonna turn your PSP upside down while you're playing it? Honestly, I think you guys are just finding reasons to hate one or the other. I don't really know much about either, so I can't make a judgement.

I'll wait till they come out and have them on display at Best Buy or something. Then I'll go and play on both, look at what games are available for both, compare prices of the system AND the game, and then I'll decide. Then again, that's how I always decide on systems. Always try before you buy

[dmleet]

I just feel I have to add another fact: Nintendo DS is NOT the successor of the Game Boy series. I wish I have the source, but I've seen it from at least five web sites.

[suicidalmuskrat]

dmleet is correct, they are being developed seperately...of course DS will be backward compatable, so if ya have that then you're all set...battery life, from what i've seen, sony claims (although they have a history of lieing about specs) that while playing games it will be 10 hours, while playing music around 8, and while watching movies around 2.5....and i was wrong, i thought the UMD's would be like gamecube's minidiscs...they aren't, they are like what evilbutterfly was describing...so that gets rid of scratching problems, but not problems with the optical disc drives...which is the most frequent problem with disc reading systems...i'd be surprised if it actually delivers 10 hours of gameplay, which doesn't make sense to me...only 2.5 for movies, and 10 for games? of course seeing as it's a disc, be prepared for loading times...i guess this is something console gamers have gotten used to, but has always bugged the piss outta me...also, the PSP will have a usb port...meaning you should be able to load movies/music and such...which peaks me a bit more...i probably won't buy psp unless it comes out and just blows everyone's mind...i don't have 300 bones to spend...if they release it for 150, maybe...i'll just make sure to wait 3 months to see if it won't crap out on me after 5 car trips...DS...still on the fence.

[jewpinthethird]

I guessing that the PSP is going to be like the iPod in a sense. Expensive...but definently worth it, and it will have a fairly good battery life.

That is just what I am guessing.

A lot of you people seem to think that the PSP will break with in a week, well You all seem to forget that the designers at Sony are completely retarded. And besides, if you are someone who doesnt have the motorskillz to hold onto anything for an extended period of time without dropping it, then maybe you should be using a system that is targeted towards children whom also have underdevoloped motorskillz.