09-20-2009, 05:16 PM | #81 | |
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Re: Impossible to answer?
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If our universe is it, then how can you claim that other universes can also exist? Where are they if there is nothing outside of eveything we know? Remember, we don't know, and never will know everything about everything. It's not possible. Just a thought. Peace, SHay
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09-20-2009, 06:55 PM | #82 |
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Re: Impossible to answer?
I'm not sure I understand why it needs to be "known knowledge." Just because we don't know something exists doesn't mean it isn't there. We define the universe as all the spacetime and forms of matter, energy, and momentum which exist. If the universe includes all the possible space, no matter if we know of it or not, then there is no space beyond it.
If the many-worlds interpretation is true, then all possible events will occur, in a possibly infinite number of universes. These universes aren't "in different places," but rather sort of "overlap." For us, there is just this one universe, it's impossible to get to another universe, because they technically don't exist, since our universe does. I guess your thought of it all being from our perspective is kind of true, because for us, our universe is all that exists, but for those of a parallel one, theirs is the only one. For those of the other universe, ours does not really exist, just as theirs does not for us. Ahhh, that's really confusing. I'm going to bed now. :P
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09-21-2009, 06:19 AM | #83 |
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Re: Impossible to answer?
I think the biggest difference we have in opinion is this :
You think the Universe is everything that exists. Period. I think the Universe is everything we know to exist in our Universe. It is not everything that exists, only everything that exists for US. Like I said before, logically I can't comprehend how things can just stop being. There can be no end point to everything, ever. Infinity has to exist, and since the Universe as far as we know is NOT actually infinite, since it is expanding, then there must be something that continues after that point, and so on. I can't grasp a point that all things just stop and that's it. So we hit the finer point of our arguement, and one I don't think we will sway the other to, so how about we just agree to disagree? Just a thought. Peace, Shay
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