03-30-2009, 04:31 PM | #81 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
making simfile charts is like composing music that already exists; all you gotta do is write the sheet music. you can't invent notes that don't exist amirite.
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03-30-2009, 04:53 PM | #82 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
kil agrees
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u play ITG, i guarantee you play dozens of charts regularly that are not in the least technically accurate and have notes going to "nonexistent sounds" but no one complains about those :< that said i haven't played or seen any of this guys files im just spewing stepman ideology also the guy who seems to be universally hailed as "da worlds best simfile maker of all time his majesty" kil steps to "nonexistent" sounds all the fucen time and apparently he makes masterpieces while this guy makes cow vomit for the same reason ps king of the sea
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03-30-2009, 05:20 PM | #84 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
Kil is so popular <3 rolf
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Yes, I understand that there is a lot more going on in the background than I give the song credit for. In a sense, it is definitely possible to write a song with a lot more pitch relevancy and deliver what seems to be a more technically polished product. But I tried to demand the following in this file: (1) Even if you have not heard the song before, you should be able to play the file through fine on the first try. I.E. Given that you have reached a certain level of proficiency you should be able to sightread all of my files without trouble, and to the extent where you are not losing any of the musicality of the song. (2) There are two major elements of the choruses of this song – the instrumental craziness in the background and the vocals. To achieve what I want in (1), I like for all my steps to be somewhat anchored in the vocals, since fundamentally the vocal part is the most concrete part of a song. Even if the background craziness obviously doesn’t match the vocals at various points (and indeed, often counters the pitch of the vocals), having steps that are loosely based on vocals grants the player the illusion that the pitch relevancy is correct (even if they’re not!), since what they hear is a smooth progression that somewhat fits the background craziness while being somewhat carried by the primary melody, which to me is a good way to represent the song in its entirety. In this sense, I’m making the song out to be more invariant than it actually is, but at the same time I do this so I can play a bit more with the vocals and achieve what I want in (1). (3) Yes, I use staircase patterns a lot. Sure, perhaps you can blame this on the fact that I haven’t experimented a whole lot with other patterns, and this is a point to work on in the future. At the same time, staircases work in songs like this since they give an illusion of smoothness and help me achieve the melodic anchoring described in (2). I think this is also a reason why a lot of people think my files are strange – much of my strategy depends on creating illusions to make my steps seem to fit even if they fail this criteria when put under a magnifying glass. But hey, if some people understand the method to my madness I can’t be completely insane (at least I hope not <_<) Quote:
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And yea Kommisar, I agree with gnr… I don’t see the chart as based on something inflexible that already exists – I see the chart as existing alongside the music rather than as an extension of that music. It’s like adding an additional instrument rather than just following the ones that already exist. Oh my God, I really have to stop spending so much time on this forum though... homework to do and such =(. |
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03-30-2009, 07:04 PM | #86 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
i was quoting arch0wl on that one puppet haha
but some of the best charts aren't perfectly accurate as people put it. there will never be one definite way to step something because there will always be different styles and ways to make files fun. technical or no, it makes no difference as long as the game is enjoyable. senorita oni. |
03-30-2009, 07:57 PM | #87 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
yupyup!
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03-30-2009, 08:15 PM | #88 |
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Can't wait to play Xepher. Reminds me of the old DDR days.
Keep up the good work QED. Really hoping to see more original stepfiles from you. |
03-31-2009, 12:43 PM | #89 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
anime or not, I would much rather play something that makes me feel like i'm actually playing the song. throwing in random arrows and patterns are very midare/arch0wl-esque and are usually for people who prefer more of a challenge. I guess i appreciate more artistic work
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03-31-2009, 01:53 PM | #90 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
shuffle it
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04-1-2009, 10:49 AM | #91 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
THIS JUST IN, STEPMANIA ISNT F***ing ART. That is all.
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04-1-2009, 11:47 AM | #92 |
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I guess that depends how you look at it...
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04-1-2009, 11:52 AM | #93 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
it's art if you're stargroup
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04-1-2009, 01:12 PM | #94 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
I don't remember the last time I ever sat at my computer staring at someones stepmania chart and admiring it for its aesthetic qualities, or feeling the emotions of self expression that the stepper was trying to convey to me in his simfile.
If im not mistaken that is what art is, something that serves no purpose its just there being a form of self expression and to just purely exist for its self. If it has a function it isnt art because it serves a purpose of some sort. Simfiles serve the purpose to follow the musics rhythm and be played for enjoyment. If Simfiles were art, QeD's self expression in his art would be that of a two year old. QeD writes Paragraph upon paragraph trying to defend him self and attempt to look smart when in reality it just makes him look stupid and dense. I dont really care about his files I just find it halarious that he would stoop as low as to calling it art. If people dont like your simfiles its too bad the file isnt fun. But hey now that I think about it your files can be art since pretty much no one will play your files and then they will server no purpose, you can take a screenshot of the chart and post it up and we can all admire the arrows you took so much effort to place so we can stare and try and figure out the f**ked up emotions you were trying to convey to us in your arrow art. |
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04-1-2009, 01:47 PM | #96 |
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
****ing made me weep with joy.
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It really depends on view point, as i said above its about how you "listen" to the music and then again how you convey it to others, OFC its going to be different from creator to creator (creators should respect other creators, just by the simple fact that they express some kind of understanding, in the same style as themselves). I think Kommissar said it rather well earlyer in the thread Its quite rare for 2 people to understand the same piece of music in the same way.
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Re: Pack in Progress: QED Anime Stepfiles 33-64
The music is the art, the steps is the wine following it.
Art is depended all on the person. Just becasue you don't like it doesn't mean others are all the way with you. If everyone liked the exact same thing, this would be a very dull world. Last edited by embarg0; 04-1-2009 at 08:53 PM.. |
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