Stepmania University: We'll make your files suck less (under construction)

[jimerax]

Is this thread for general stepmania theories or individual advices in simfile making?

well anyways a general jack theory on jumps related to gnr's post.

When the fast jump section is long, using mini jump-trill patterns in it waters it down. An example could be seen in the ending of PE gymnactics on FFR. On the contrary, if the jump section isn't that long and you want to put some emphasis on them, mini jump-trill patterns would make it weak. Long jack patterns could be avoided unless you want to express strong accent or PR.

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by moches

I like this idea but the problem might be that later, the student:tutor ratio will be pretty high.

Not sure whether I'm in or not. I can't really TEACH stepping, per se, I just listen to the song and do what I can. Also for some reason I can only step simple music. Maybe it's because I'm not even 14 yet. Does age have something to do with how good your files are?

EDIT: About my age...basically I made this account when I was 8 or 9 and thought that breaking the age rule was cool and hip and ****. Evidence of this can be seen by my first retarded post about the Megaman song. Basically this means I wasn't legally allowed on this forum when I launched up FFR Community Pack. There, I said it. Hopefully that doesn't mean I'm retarded for that.

I hope Tass doesn't see this and ban me. I'm legal now though.

Damn you're not even 14? Holy ****!! You're a young fella.

[moches]

Originally Posted by N.T.M.

Damn you're not even 14? Holy ****!! You're a young fella.

14 in a month and two weeks.

And doodgk is 13 too, I'm pretty sure.

Anyway, back on topic.

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by moches

14 in a month and two weeks.

And doodgk is 13 too, I'm pretty sure.

Anyway, back on topic.

Wowzer =P.


And for something relevant to the OP: I really need input as far as song selection. I need to diversify my genre selection yet I'm kinda still unsure as to where I should look.

[Patashu]

An obvious, if rather 'cheap' resource, is to download albums and OSTs that you have already seen people make well stepped files of, as steppable music tends to be concentrated together.

Another quick source is to look through the music of every video game you've liked. Video game music ain't bad overall.

If you want stuff that's basically guaranteed to be steppable, rip a rhythm game's OST.

There are also sites out there with independent artists that let you 'trawl' a network of related songs and genres to look for things you like. I can't think of any of them off the top of my head tho

[i love you]

I'm probably one of the worst R1 simfile artist in FFR so i'd like to be a student please.

[who_cares973]

someone should find a song and all the students should step it then compare and such

[Patashu]

starship.6? 8)

[who_cares973]

good song choice 8)





stepping it this weekend

[N.T.M.]

If people are gonna invest time stepping though they might as well contribute to the database with a few songs instead of numerous versions of the same song which IMO may not prove to be too beneficial for improvement purposes anyways. IDK tho =P.

[who_cares973]

having everyone step the same songs shows where people are compared to others. it also shows peoples strengthes and weaknesses compared to others

[N.T.M.]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

having everyone step the same songs shows where people are compared to others. it also shows peoples strengthes and weaknesses compared to others

True, but it doesn't help them improve individually. It'd only be effective to really compare stepping levels. Well that and they'd improve. So yeah I guess it's a good idea.

Wow I didn't really type that too well =/.

[who_cares973]

well this is the beginning so its seems like the right thing to do to get to know where everyone stands before we begin

[moches]

Professor, I've finished my first assignment, and I'd like to turn it in for a grade. Please look for a PM in your email. (serious expression)

EDIT: It's Super Monkey Ball lmfao.

[Patashu]

Storm placeholder:

gap is 0.808, should be 0.768
opening is four 32nds not four 24ths
mine for the last blue note of m1?
seems to be alternating with ending measures with a minijack to (the guitar) or not; either fill in gaps with the guitar or don't
m7: blue note after the yellow jump is missing a minifreeze
the jumpy pattern in m9 is missing a jump on the third beat
m15 is missing a bass drum minijack and the minifreeze on the blue after the yellow jump
end of m16 is begging for a hold or mines or something
m17 def. shouldn't be straight 8ths
m18 on should introduce the other melodic element immediately (the one you put freezes too lately, plays the same high pitch over and over?)
the way you're only sort of amalgamating the guitar in is still weird
m37: the twin gallops pattern is a misrhythm and erroneously places the hi-hat and base drum/guitar/whatever it is on the same column. should go yellow minijack-blueyellow
m42 on could be layered better: I see jumps to the guitar on its own for instance. this isn't a place where I'd use the jumps-signify-main-melody technique, btw, since it means you 'lose information' when you can't arrange things to better signify all the different percussion (in a similar vein m49 doesn't really make sense. well it 'makes sense' but it's not the way I'd do it)
e: actually damn, now I can't decide if I like it this way or not XD maybe try 16th freezes to the guitar?
m48 ought to have a straight 8th jack to signify the percussive sound

[kommisar[os]]

k i can set up an irc channel no problem. i'll have a stepmanier semenar later on tonight =D

[moches]

sry im a noob wats a irc channel

ps Patashur thanks for the long-ass review hahaaa. This is going to help me loads.

[Patashu]

Internet Relay Chat. I dunno what the best client for it is but I use mIRC.

[Xandertrax]

Whao active thread.

I think it would be good if you copied all the general stepmania tidbits that are scattered through the thread (stuff on PR, etc) into the OP, under different section headings or something.

[gnr61]

jimerax can def be a professor.........head of technicality department