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[Charu]

Originally Posted by roundbox

I'm getting a wolf lean from shado I think guys

Something we agree on!!!

[Charu]

Alright, I think I'mm-a just wing it here, screw trying to do that.

I noticed juckter mentioned that he thinks inDheart and shadow are TvT. I'm definitely not getting that vibe at all.

I can see it now with Freez vs Gradiant though. It could've just been a case of "hot air".

[danceflashrevo]

inDheart - First few posts are shitposting and role theory. That's to be expected. Then

Originally Posted by heart #48

not focusing on counterclaims because there's no mechanical way to verify them by this point, plus none have actually cropped up; i don't think a real PR would tell us otherwise right away for fear of being mistaken

This leads me to believe that he is town because he follows the mentality of "this is just gonna waste time, let's focus on something else". He then has an interesting read on haku

Originally Posted by heart #410

i get inklings of a "haku defenseive" vibe but i noticed something different about his start the game here vs. turbo 5

in turbo 5, he started the game as haku-centric, but then felt freer to post his mind and poke at people

in this game, he started as more openly inquisitive, then switched to a focus on the self (cf. his vote on xel)

something feels different

. And really, this is accurate. He switches to super self conscious pretty early in the phase and then started feeling free. I'll show how in my haku analysis but I like this post and the next one.

Originally Posted by heart #500

oh gee, people become conscious of their behavior patterns when observed, who'd've thought

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What I really like about this post is that a) it's funny, i lol'd, and b) it was a little jab at gradiant for adding an attempted accusation at freezin. And then after that, the inDheart/wolfe thing starts. I think that he had a solid point out.

Originally Posted by heart #505

taking a look at shado anyway; my hot take is he's done a lot of following rather than leading, like he's willing to push along other battles but not to be part of his own so much. for me tht behavior trends more sociopathic, but what's throwing me off is i don't have a good bead on whether this is usually what he does in longer games.

And then wolfe responds very aggressively and throwing mud (at least that's how it felt).

Originally Posted by wolfe #507

LMAO
That actually sounds familiar, inDheart. Almost like you took my exact argument against you and tried to flip it. Want an example of me starting a battle? My read on you.

Not even gonna touch the sociopathic part or whether this is usually what I do, because your premise is totally flawed. Get wrecked, son.

Now, I find myself siding with heart here because wolfes entry tone is very snarky, however heart replies with a lot of snarkiness which made it feel like a mudslinging fest. This and the other ad hominem interaction are very hard to read for me, because I find it hard to actually get what's important. But reading into it, I feel like heart does a really good job making a case on wolfe, it seems very logical to me (post 544, it's long so I don't wanna post it to fluff up my post lul). I feel like his coming onto wolfe is independent of freezin getting attacked, which is really good imo. It's not like he's specifically defending someone. Town.

guys this is really hard to do football is really interesting to watch and this is a lot of analysis i've never done this before asdf

[danceflashrevo]

botchi246 - To preface this, AJ's content has definitely been lacking in... quantity but I genuinely think that he's town. His first post in the game isn't even a shit post, he posts a pretty good conclusion from the gradiant freezin interaction.

Originally Posted by Aj #342

well i have finally finished reading all this stuff.
first of all, screw you charu for starting the game off with serious stuff. also, dont lynch charu

the more i read freezinice and gradiants exchanges, the more i think they are town vs. town. it feels to me that they both got excited early and then now are harboring "early-game paranoia" or EGP (<--lol) if you will.

First off, this doesn't just show townie mindset and tone. Him saying it's v/v is very original, and it is VERY easy to just jump into "gradiant is a wolf because D:<" "freezin is a wolf because >:Ɑ" but he doesn't. Secondly, it says "the more i read" which means he's keeping up with the game, and is actively paying attention. I'd claim his low content is due to his inexperience so far (I tend to be very sympathetic towards that) and it'd make since to me. He still feels genuine. This is applicable to his other content posts as well. The only thing that makes me a little paranoid is his recent inactivity (last post was yesterday 3:42pm server) and you might be able to link that to people town reading him, but I think he should be off the table unless he self destructs EoD.

Miami scored yay for mark richt

[roundbox]

I'm just gonna sit on dfr for now, maybe shado
taking a break and the only people I have left to read are freezin and haku

gradiant's tone is strikingly different from his wolf performance and I have no reason to look into charu other than see that hey, he's the bulletproof bodyguard

[danceflashrevo]

if you think this is my wolf game you're in for a fuckin treat when i actually roll wolf holy shit

[Charu]

Originally Posted by danceflashrevo

if you think this is my wolf game you're in for a fuckin treat when i actually roll wolf holy shit

Okay.

[roundbox]

why does it seem like there are only like 4 votes

[Precarious]

Okay, I'll be here through end of day. Let's go.

Originally Posted by Gradiant

Thanks for the posts charu, gave me stuff to read while i was on break at work.

Precarious' reluctance to see anything bad about freezin is laughable.

Freezin's profile is hardly spotless, but you've been sparring with them almost all of D0. They're just about the only player that's been willing to challenge you, and I see that as a town move--you've been town read by just about everyone, so for a wolf it's a questionable move in terms of actually achieving a lynch. Yes, it could have been a place to hide a vote, but (setting aside the unvote) the whole scenario has been a large part of what's made them a prime lynch possibility today. Yes, there are other reasons people are considering Freezin, not just the debate with you, and I do agree that some of Freezin's aggression seemed out of place. But those same actions have a decent chance of proving self-destructive to a wolf-Freezin, and to be honest I don't see their actions as quite as bad as everyone else. I see what happened as a fairly typical example of D0 town infighting. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'm not convinced you're seeing past your fight with them.

[AragakiAyase]

Votes from post 4 to post 889
Night in 1:26:11
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 1 -- XelNya -- Hakulyte (91)
• 1 -- inDheart -- ShadoWolfe (94)
• 1 -- botchi246 -- Precarious (50)
• 1 -- danceflashrevo -- roundbox (30)
• 1 -- FreezinIce -- Gradiant (98)
• 3 -- unvote -- FreezinIce (77), danceflashrevo (41), DaBackpack (39)
• 6 -- not voting -- _Zenith_ (22), botchi246 (13), inDheart (81), juckter1 (16), mellonxcollie (29), XelNya (58)
• 1 -- Error -- Charu (140)

[DaBackpack]

we playin one night ultimate werewolf lol

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

[*]3 -- unvote -- FreezinIce (77), danceflashrevo (41), DaBackpack (39)[*]6 -- not voting -- _Zenith_ (22), botchi246 (13), inDheart (81), juckter1 (16), mellonxcollie (29), XelNya (58)[/list]

disgusting

[danceflashrevo]

guys my laptop's literally about to die and i have to drive back to my dorm to get it. it's gonna be like 40 minutes minimum, i'm sorry

[Precarious]

Originally Posted by roundbox

why does it seem like there are only like 4 votes

I'm hoping this is customary around here to begin with, but I'm hoping everyone will put a vote down by day's end. Vote data is useful over time, and sometimes even immediately.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Precarious

I'm hoping this is customary around here to begin with, but I'm hoping everyone will put a vote down by day's end. Vote data is useful over time, and sometimes even immediately.

No vote itself is a nice data point but it's really bad for town in general, especially when there's guaranteed town in the unvotes+no lynchers

[inDheart]

i tend to vote late unless i've got a really good reason, i don't think votes add pressure in early game

that said i'm still ugh at juckter1 for never actually catching up and not being here

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by roundbox

disgusting

..

[inDheart]

> wants votes
> i vote
> box not like?

Originally Posted by roundbox

disgusting

[roundbox]

no I want more people to vote

[Charu]

So what's going on with the juckter votes?