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aka i have other plans that dont involve reading the thread for hours on end
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02-22-2020, 11:38 PM | #883 |
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well despite my better judgement im going to look into the bolth kill because its bothering me. Its such a weird kill that assuming its not randomized and theres no blue powers at work cracking it could provide a decent benefit. The issue being "assuming its not randomized"
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Trying my best to follow here and just as a quick fyi I was finally sent home. So don't expect much from me for a while
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02-23-2020, 12:04 AM | #885 |
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first things first, i look at what bolth was saying (with a slight preference on EoD), then see who would benefit most from his death
*He was on the Xiz wagon at EoD so it could possibly be a play to make everyone else on the wagon look worse Everyone who isnt DBP, storn, Freezin, Gradiant and me would benefit from that. *Haku voted for bolth so I dont think he would benefit from his cardflip that much but to offset that Bolth was heavily suspecting Haku near the end. So ill cancel them out so we have Fatfuck, MML, Roundbox, Raeko, Shadow, Psycho, Haku left. *Checking the post history, bolth really doesnt have that many stand out opinions or pushes anyone hard so its hard to see any landmines he might've stepped on so no points here. *The next point is contentious but i really doubt a wolf would kill off a scumlean when its hard enough to make a case against someone when you know everyone's alignment. So i will exclude anyone who was suspicious of bolth or had him wolf leaned on their last reads list. (Unrelated point but Bolth was null on quite a lot of lists) That take off Haku again, and to an extent shadow and MML, but they were suspecting bolth but not scum leaning so ill add them to a tier below who is left So what we have left is: Roundbox, Raeko, Fatfuck, Psycho as the people who would benefit most from bolth dying, and Shadow / MML making up a tier below them. ATM i cant really think of any other tests to narrow the pool but im sure ill come up with something later
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What I gathered from that exercise was bolth was a probably a very safe kill to make, maybe by a wolf team who didnt really feel like PR hunting or making themselves look better because as you saw there wasnt a whole lot of conclusions to be drawn from the kill because of how mostly middle of the road bolth played all phase
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probably should do wagonomics later too but i have other stuff to do
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I've been seeing that word EVERYWHERE in games. What exactly are "Wagonomics"? If anyone could help me with that, that'd be good. I'm very likely to be asleep all day and into the early evening. |
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You try to figure out why the vote happened and if it makes sense. You check who switched votes. You look at the known information. e.g: Xiz/Bolth was town.
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Thanks Haku
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That was my thinking at least, though i acknowledge it is pretty weak in this case because he was really only scumread by haku so those criteria dont really apply. I think its stretching it to bump down MML and shadow on second thought so i think once i add another filter ill bring them back up.
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hot take: everyone on the XIZ wagon except potentially dbp is town.
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02-23-2020, 01:55 AM | #894 |
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Approximately how sure are you of this?
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02-23-2020, 01:59 AM | #895 |
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Actually Storn I don't think you ever gave a reads list D0 and I believe Lar requested the same. You still look pretty bad to me and the EOD you had was a hard excuse and a probable shitpost of an incurable illness
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02-23-2020, 02:02 AM | #896 |
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Communicating with everyone is vital with town and I hate the fact that you used the reasoning of "I was using my phone to read". I'm sorry Storn but, as I mentioned earlier in EOD, you had AMPLE opportunity to shout and say "YO! I'm on my phone just catching up, but will post later on" but you didn't. If you're actually town here I want a Sherlock Holmes level of work from you today.
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I just remembered this. What was the purpose of this Gradiant,? I was puzzled and still am. Were you adding on a case of reasons why Plop was just on the fence of Xiz? I don't know and I want a bit of help understanding this part of EOD |
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Y'know... I've heard stories of how people get a town pass whenever they're drunk... but why in the fuck would you ask us all to ask you ANYTHING? That just feels like you don't want to put in the actual work of solving players to me and is very bothersome to me
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i'm sure enough that im town, and that xiz was town and we were the top 2 wagons. The only other major wagon with votes looking at eod was RB. In general wolves dont want to try and make last minute vote changes as it looks fishy, especially when they KNOW they're lynching a town. The major ??? is whether or not RB is town, and if it would have had any effect on the wagon if he was a wolf. based on how RB was there to self pres if a wagon gained traction on him and he wasn't on either of the 2 big wagons i think we can say him being a wolf did not play into the situation.
The reason DBP does not get this "pass" is that he started the wagon, and wasn't really on anybody before hand. i'm not saying its he's not town, but i dont think he's clearable based on this line of thought. of course this all relies on you to believe me that im town, which doesn't seem to be the popular opinion. oh and if RB was a wolf i feel that its more likely that the wolves were on me than on Xiz. |
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