TWG Turbo VIII: Time Travel (Turbo) - Game Thread

[inDheart]

my scumread on mml

this is in response to me talking about dadcop's "i have my role and i'm just looking out for myself" post:

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Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I mean

It's a stretch and if it's true he'll show it.

I also might be missing what Charu meant but I don't rreeeaaalllyyy want to state it in the weird event that it's actually true.

and after that he's still scumreading dadcop, and there's talk of "pressure" between them:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Oh where you not pressured?

What is this that DFR quoted me? Or all the post before it? Or our entire interaction?

When have you not been pressured is the better question

i would say he really wants a dadcop wagon to be a thing.

since it's passed now, i can say i was PR reading dadcop. mml's first post quoted above looks to me like he's on a hunt for PRs. and PRs in this game are actually more common than scum purely from a chance perspective.

the thing is, he's fine pushing dadcop into claiming if that was true. like, that's where he spent most of his time yesterday. i don't remember him moving until my wagon appeared and he thought it would be a good/safe time for omgus, and he seemed really disappointed dadcop lynch wasn't happening even then iirc.

i left out grabbing some quotes because mq isn't working and posting like this is obnoxious UGH

[theknightsofneeee]

Originally Posted by Etylukah

I had a shot on you for half of the night because you're insanely self-conscious while posting and you sound like the perfect person to fabricate their entire game + dumb tells.

a) i'm self concious/self aware regardless of my alignment. Its just how I play.

b) i have fabricated a dumb tell once as a wolf (i've played about 7 wolf games), but I didn't get cleared for it, and the intention of the dumbtell was actually to push someone with it, and not get cleared for it when I did it. And yes, I am very capable of fabricating my entire game, and I would say tone is the thing you should read me the least on; you should read me based on the quality of my pushes, whether or not I pushed wolves, and WHY i'm pushing people.


My mindsets on how I approach the game are:

as a villager, you want to keep track of people's reads/opinions on you because it lets you corral votes on wolfy villagers/wolves if you're widely town read or to convince people that you are town if alot of people are scumreading you and you might be up for mislynch.

as a wolf, you want to convince villagers to back off of voting/lynching you, and survive as long as possible, while pushing/lynching villagers in a genuine/real way. And that requires that you also keep track of how much influence you have ITG, so you can use it/try to bolster it when necessary.


would you like me to link you some villager/wolf games from my main sites so you can see the difference?

this is 100% my villager game.

You can tell it is because of the WHY i'm pushing people.

I'm not omgus'ing as much (you can try and argue that I'm omgus'ing mellon, but i'm not. I've scumreading her because her reason for keeping her vote on me is completely nonexistant. She literally said that I was town, and then kept voting me) and I have genuine/real reasons for my pushes.

I think its pretty evident tbh..

[inDheart]

i was also mistaken and thought this was a 9 player game so today would be mylo, gg me

the thought of vig making a bad shot and putting us in mylo was really tearing me up this morning

[Etylukah]

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee

a) i'm self concious/self aware regardless of my alignment. Its just how I play.

b) i have fabricated a dumb tell once as a wolf (i've played about 7 wolf games), but I didn't get cleared for it, and the intention of the dumbtell was actually to push someone with it, and not get cleared for it when I did it. And yes, I am very capable of fabricating my entire game, and I would say tone is the thing you should read me the least on; you should read me based on the quality of my pushes, whether or not I pushed wolves, and WHY i'm pushing people.


My mindsets on how I approach the game are:

as a villager, you want to keep track of people's reads/opinions on you because it lets you corral votes on wolfy villagers/wolves if you're widely town read or to convince people that you are town if alot of people are scumreading you and you might be up for mislynch.

as a wolf, you want to convince villagers to back off of voting/lynching you, and survive as long as possible, while pushing/lynching villagers in a genuine/real way. And that requires that you also keep track of how much influence you have ITG, so you can use it/try to bolster it when necessary.


would you like me to link you some villager/wolf games from my main sites so you can see the difference?

this is 100% my villager game.

You can tell it is because of the WHY i'm pushing people.

I'm not omgus'ing as much (you can try and argue that I'm omgus'ing mellon, but i'm not. I've scumreading her because her reason for keeping her vote on me is completely nonexistant. She literally said that I was town, and then kept voting me) and I have genuine/real reasons for my pushes.

I think its pretty evident tbh..

I'm pretty sure you should know that if you know your own meta you can make it evolve so it fits your game. I believe that's what is happening right now.

[theknightsofneeee]

Originally Posted by Etylukah

I'm pretty sure you should know that if you know your own meta you can make it evolve so it fits your game. I believe that's what is happening right now.

okay...

but I don't have any meta here.

I don't have to make my meta fit jack shit.

so I could just blatently wolf if I was a wolf.

And I am a STRONG advocate for powerwolfing (never voting/pushing your wolf bro's) as a wolf, because people will still read you wrongly even if you are blatent about your wolfing.

sooo? your reason doesn't make sense.

[theknightsofneeee]

like, i'm legit telling you how to read me.

I understand 'you could be a wolf here lying/wifom'ing' blah blah blah.. but I'm not.

[Etylukah]

No, you're the one who doesn't understand, I am Haku and I am wolf reading you.

You have to convince me that you're a wolf to get a town read.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee

And I am a STRONG advocate for powerwolfing (never voting/pushing your wolf bro's) as a wolf, because people will still read you wrongly even if you are blatent about your wolfing.

sooo? your reason doesn't make sense.

i believe this is something sunfan would also agree with, and i don't think he would soft bus you early game if you were partners

disagree with haku's assessment

[Charu]

Nee, I present to you... the power of Haku.

[Etylukah]

For the audience:

I am trying to force neeee to drop any sort of wifom read due to the inexistence of PRs to protect.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Etylukah

I mean, I can't shoot myself so that removes me from the target list making the target list go up to dadcop2.

Choices were Mellon, MML, knightsofneee and dadcop2.

how was i not a choice :S

i'd be easy to make into lynchbait especially if mml's town and they kill him, so wolves wouldn't touch me

unless you think i look good as the counterwagon to a PR?

[Etylukah]

Originally Posted by inDheart

how was i not a choice :S

i'd be easy to make into lynchbait especially if mml's town and they kill him, so wolves wouldn't touch me

unless you think i look good as the counterwagon to a PR?

One Shot Assassin: A killer aligned with the forces of good, for reasons only you know. You do your best work in the shadows.
> Every night, you will be given a list containing the bottom 50% of posters during the previous day. You may once per game select a name from that list to kill.

50% = 4 players for D0 Night. It's based on post count. Your post count was too high.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Charu

Did you not care to notice the one piece of post dadcop made, that I think he fucked up on, with me actually POINTING IT OUT, and then returning back to throwing shade at him to save him from getting NK'd?

what i realize now is i probably fucked up in townreading him when i did, but given we know he's not the wolf kill, good job

[Etylukah]

So yeah, a smart wolf team would post massively making my role completely useless.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by Etylukah

One Shot Assassin: A killer aligned with the forces of good, for reasons only you know. You do your best work in the shadows.
> Every night, you will be given a list containing the bottom 50% of posters during the previous day. You may once per game select a name from that list to kill.

50% = 4 players for D0 Night. It's based on post count. Your post count was too high.

oh forgot about postcount thing

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by theknightsofneeee

now it is possible that you guys are ballsier wolves than I have experiance with, so maybe you guys vote DFR to lynch there, but imo, a large majority of wolves (something like 80%) will move off a PR when they claim/soft hard at EoD.

wolves tend to show their tmi that way, cause they aren't questioning the veracity of the claim, cause they KNOW it is true.

i don't think we will learn much from the soft specifically because of the timing, i think some good ol roundbox style FOLLOW THE VOTE is in order

[theknightsofneeee]

Village game (well you just saw one in the fireemblem) but here's another (i can't do url's so copy and paste.)


http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/...-5-C9-Two-Fold

kind of an aids setup, multiball (2 scum teams) but I was a villager and almost got lynched day 1, and then got fakeclaimed redcheck on day 2


a couple wolf games for you to read


game 1
http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/...roes-Mini-Mash

recent wolf game (probs my best wolf game i've ever played)

I would try and iso me instead of reading the whole thing cause its crazy long.

game 2

http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/...Pick-em-9er%29

smaller wolf game (more readable)

[Etylukah]

One more thing:

Twilight Zone: ON
>Wolves may talk in wolfchat before the game starts.

Wolves could talk to each others before this game started. I believe they distanced on purpose this time as a safe strategy.

[inDheart]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

I'm gonna get some food and play Pokemon for a while

I'll reread some people when I get back

I'm probably just gonna reset everything like normal

you've gotta be fucking kidding me if this is your entry into today

you have NONE of the ambivalence you typically do as townfan

[theknightsofneeee]

lol, i just had to spam some posts in the main forum to post that, cause it was auto making them URL's, and i couldn't figure out how to make it work otherwise.

XD