'09 MLB World Series - Page 4

**Vanilla Mnm** · 10-10-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by omgitznpv

i dunno where you pulled this from because it's not really all that true. pujols and holliday are the main bats, with not that much else around them (mostly replacement-level hitters or hitters that don't drive in as many)

Honestly, a lot of things I say are just pulled from what I know and I don't look up any of this stuff. (I'm guessing no one else does either, but I know a lot about baseball because I'm always around it) So yeah, I just thought that because I can't think of too many teams out there that had better hitting. I mean, the Phillies & maybe the Dodgers. The Dodgers were just clutch. Like I said before, they did have the top hitting in the NL (I believe), but they didn't have anyone hit .300+ or score 100+ runs.

Eh, I just looked up the St.Louis lineup & you're right, they don't have too much outside of Holliday and Pujols. But they definitely had one of the best pitching staffs in the NL.

**foilman8805** · 10-11-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Mnm

But they definitely had one of the best pitching staffs in the NL.

Actually, that title by and large belongs to the Dodgers if you're looking at things like team ERA and bullpen ERA. Yeah, the Cardinals have a really nice 1-2 punch at the front of their rotation but that's it.

Had the NLDS gone to five games, they were going to have Carpenter pitch game 4 and Wainwright pitch game 5.

If that doesn't tell you anything about how they feel about the rest of their pitching staff, then I don't know what to say.

super kid · 10-11-2009, 01:57 AM

Actually, St.Louis has the best pitching coach in the Major League. I don't remember his name, but many players and commentators recognize him as the top pitching coach.

**foilman8805** · 10-11-2009, 01:58 AM

Dave Duncan.

omgitznpv · 10-11-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Mnm

The Dodgers didn't have anyone hit .300+

juan pierre (lol)

it's a lineup full of good hitters though, in terms of average. most of them are above league average.

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Originally Posted by foilman8805

Actually, that title by and large belongs to the Dodgers if you're looking at things like team ERA and bullpen ERA. Yeah, the Cardinals have a really nice 1-2 punch at the front of their rotation but that's it.

hey joel pineiro has been really good this year (yes i know he failed game 3)

cardinals bullpen was pretty good until ryan franklin decided to not be good down the stretch and ruin my fantasy team

also dodgers and cardinals pitching staffs are pretty equal; dodgers lead in ERA (3.41 to 3.66), strikeouts (1272 to 1049) while the cardinals lead in bb and bb/9 (460 to 584 which is a huge difference and their total innings pitched is about the same) and saves ratio (43/57 in saves to 44/70) for a couple of examples lol

dodgers and cardinals WHIP are similar, but dodgers walk more people while the cardinals give up more base hits (dunno who gives up more xbh, fangraphs is only showing basic team stats). more walks = shorter outings, higher bullpen usage but their era is also a bit lower so meh

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Originally Posted by foilman8805

Had the NLDS gone to five games, they were going to have Carpenter pitch game 4 and Wainwright pitch game 5.

If that doesn't tell you anything about how they feel about the rest of their pitching staff, then I don't know what to say.

if i had carpenter and wainwright in the front of the rotation i'd start them game 4 and game 5 regardless of who i had behind pineiro (assuming health not a factor)

**revolutionomega** · 10-11-2009, 03:22 PM

In before Tass goes on a Phillies rant.

**foilman8805** · 10-11-2009, 03:23 PM

Angels swept Boston...that's about as much of an upset as the Dodgers sweep was. I'm pretty sure the Sox were pretty heavy favorites.

Angels scored 5 runs in the last two innings to win. God damn.

**A2P** · 10-11-2009, 03:43 PM

Angels rule

**All_That_Chaz** · 10-11-2009, 03:45 PM

Thank God we don't have to deal with any more red sox coverage.

**Vanilla Mnm** · 10-11-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by foilman8805

Angels swept Boston...that's about as much of an upset as the Dodgers sweep was. I'm pretty sure the Sox were pretty heavy favorites.

Angels scored 5 runs in the last two innings to win. God damn.

I'm pretty sure they weren't even favorites, if they were then it was a joke. Angels had a better record in the season and they had home field advantage. The only possibility I could think of is Boston might have been a favorite because the Angels NEVER win in Boston.

GuidoHunter · 10-11-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by All_That_Chaz

Thank God we don't have to deal with any more red sox coverage.

Tru. Dat.

--Guido

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super kid · 10-11-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Mnm

I'm pretty sure they weren't even favorites, if they were then it was a joke. Angels had a better record in the season and they had home field advantage. The only possibility I could think of is Boston might have been a favorite because the Angels NEVER win in Boston.

They were favorites because the Angels previous meetings with Boston in the playoffs.

**Vanilla Mnm** · 10-11-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by super kid

They were favorites because the Angels previous meetings with Boston in the playoffs.

I don't get why anyone would ever base favoritism over what happened a year ago, both teams are different teams.

**revolutionomega** · 10-11-2009, 04:13 PM

Yeah I didn't see any Boston favoritism. Pretty sure Yanks will take it tonight. Although the Yanks have struggled against the Angels they have proven to overcome that this year. Looking forward to a brutal Yankees winning-streak.

**foilman8805** · 10-11-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by revolutionomega

Yeah I didn't see any Boston favoritism

I'm not talking about on TV, or in terms of TV coverage. Statistically, they were favorites, meaning that most baseball analysts had picked them to win the series.

**All_That_Chaz** · 10-11-2009, 05:52 PM

The analysts picked them to win the series so more ****tards from boston would watch their awful coverage of the games. Seriously, how did TBS get away with this?

**foilman8805** · 10-11-2009, 05:56 PM

I don't know, but the guys doing the broadcasting for TBS ****ing so much **** I can't stand it. They routinely **** up names and plays and it annoys the **** out of me.

The FOX commentators are slightly better, but not by much. Eric Karros is good if he's on.

super kid · 10-11-2009, 05:59 PM

TBS gets the ALDS and NLDS, which is crap if you don't have cable, then Fox gets the LCS and WS.

Boston was picked because their depth in starting pitching, who pitched like **** in these games.

**foilman8805** · 10-11-2009, 06:04 PM

Actually, NLCS is on TBS. :/

super kid · 10-11-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by foilman8805

Actually, NLCS is on TBS. :/

Is it?!?!?! That sucks. I hate watching baseball on tbs.

View Poll Results: Who will win the MLB World Series?
Boston Red Soxs	5	9.26%
New York Yankees	22	40.74%
L.A. Angles of Anaheim	5	9.26%
Minnesota Twins	1	1.85%
Los Angeles Dodgers	6	11.11%
St.Louis Cardnials	2	3.70%
Philadelphia Phillies	12	22.22%
Colorado Rockies	1	1.85%
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10-11-2009, 01:58 AM	#64
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 36 Posts: 5,704	Re: '09 MLB World Series Dave Duncan.

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revolutionomega FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: White Plains, New York Age: 32 Posts: 2,240	Re: '09 MLB World Series In before Tass goes on a Phillies rant. __________________ "AW MAN, WE SUCK AGAIN!" - Rob Schneider, The Waterboy (1998)

10-11-2009, 03:23 PM	#67
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 36 Posts: 5,704	Re: '09 MLB World Series Angels swept Boston...that's about as much of an upset as the Dodgers sweep was. I'm pretty sure the Sox were pretty heavy favorites. Angels scored 5 runs in the last two innings to win. God damn. Last edited by foilman8805; 10-11-2009 at 03:25 PM..

10-11-2009, 03:43 PM	#68
A2P FFR Veteran Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nah Age: 34 Posts: 3,127	Re: '09 MLB World Series Angels rule

10-11-2009, 04:13 PM	#74
revolutionomega FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: White Plains, New York Age: 32 Posts: 2,240	Re: '09 MLB World Series Yeah I didn't see any Boston favoritism. Pretty sure Yanks will take it tonight. Although the Yanks have struggled against the Angels they have proven to overcome that this year. Looking forward to a brutal Yankees winning-streak. __________________ "AW MAN, WE SUCK AGAIN!" - Rob Schneider, The Waterboy (1998)

10-11-2009, 05:56 PM	#77
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 36 Posts: 5,704	Re: '09 MLB World Series I don't know, but the guys doing the broadcasting for TBS **ing so much I can't stand it. They routinely up names and plays and it annoys the ** out of me. The FOX commentators are slightly better, but not by much. Eric Karros is good if he's on.

10-11-2009, 06:04 PM	#79
foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 36 Posts: 5,704	Re: '09 MLB World Series Actually, NLCS is on TBS. :/

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