TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

[mellon_collie]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

do you think I'm lying? or am I just being dramatic?

not lying but being dramatic/fake is more accurate

you didn't say anything that is an outright lie, but what you said doesn't seem related to this specific game. It seems like something you would just say to say something aka fluffy

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

In TWG/Mafia terms, you look for characters that are super controlling and have a strong presence, but also don't feel like they're actually guiding town in the right direction. (At the upper levels of play, that is.) I do it all the time as wolf. It makes me feel good to be a town leader as wolf because there are fewer chances for other players to make charges against me. When I control town, that uneasiness, or disturbance of peace fades, because I am making the game less volatile against myself.

This is Shadow's version of that. He's a newer player and isn't in the mindset of controlling other people yet, but the feeling I get from him is one I empathize with a lot as a wolf. The more "involved" you are, the less likely a CFD will land on you, and the less likely you are to be hero'd by a real town player.

[TWGma]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Might want to take like 10% off there, bud.

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Doesn't seem like dbp needs to fluff here, he hasn't been struggling to out content which is the only reason mafia feel forced to fluff, so idt this fluff is scummy or forced if that makes sense.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

not lying but being dramatic/fake is more accurate

you didn't say anything that is an outright lie, but what you said doesn't seem related to this specific game. It seems like something you would just say to say something aka fluffy

I'm trying to relate this feeling I have but it's almost an entirely tonal thing

[SubaruPoptart]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

OK new terminology: what's CFD

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

actually I think I've got it

it's a common trope in detective fiction, but also a part of guilt and human psychology

It's when the culprit of a crime wants to be continually attuned to the investigative process in order to... not be taken by surprise by certain results. And on top of that, by keeping yourself inserted into the discourse surrounding the crime, you are mitigating your own stress levels, limiting the potential of you making a big blunder down the line when you are called to the stand.

There are actually a number of psychological benefits to this kind of strategy. It's where the adage "the culprit always returns to the scene of the crime" comes from. Imagine if wolf-Shadow was less of a voice so far, and he didn't get attention until the end of the phase. He'd have a very hard time fighting against that accumulated suspicion. When you're active and opening yourself to scrutiny, you're in a state of safely testing the waters, "hiding in plain sight" as to avoid the UtR read, and calming your own guilty conscience.

That's the specific feeling I'm getting, the one I called "excess enthusiasm" and "being a a 12 year-old boy trying to seem mature."

If I'm being quite honest here, Wolf-Shadow would just not do anything. I've been reading your comments and I need to know just how many hundreds of feet of dirt you dug up to get into that tunnel you're in right now. Get out of it and see the light. You're wrong about this entire thing, and should I be lynched tonight you'll be catching a fair bit of flak for tunneling so hard into me.

DBP My gut is screaming that you're pushing on an easy mislynch and I'd be a fool to not call you on it

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

CFD is Chinese fire drill, or last minute panic shift to a new lynch target EOD (or maybe not panicky), but yeah last minute lynch shift

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

OK new terminology: what's CFD

Chinese Fire Drill

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

How new is shadow?

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Like literally, staying in arms reach is one of the best wolf plays.

Look at the votes now, that is the kind of situation someone with this mindset actively avoids preemptively

Anyway, think about it, I still have 10 more pages or so to go

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

What even are the votes atm

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

If I'm being quite honest here, Wolf-Shadow would just not do anything. I've been reading your comments and I need to know just how many hundreds of feet of dirt you dug up to get into that tunnel you're in right now. Get out of it and see the light. You're wrong about this entire thing, and should I be lynched tonight you'll be catching a fair bit of flak for tunneling so hard into me.

DBP My gut is screaming that you're pushing on an easy mislynch and I'd be a fool to not call you on it

am I a tunneling town or a wolf pushing an easy mislynch? the sentence at the end of the first paragraph feels more like you're threatening a town

[inDheart]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

unofficially

Votes from post 1 to post 568
Night in 1:39:24
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 3 -- Shadow_God_10 -- XelNya (31), Duskfall (77), DaBackpack (41)
• 3 -- Funnygurl555 -- TWGma (31), Charu (34), the sun fan (19)
• 2 -- DaBackpack -- storn42 (28), Shadow_God_10 (98)
• 1 -- Duskfall -- MixMasterLar (37)
• 1 -- storn42 -- inDheart (44)
• 1 -- TWGma -- Funnygurl555 (13)
• 2 -- not voting -- mellon_collie (29), SubaruPoptart (75)

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

I think it might be time for a DBP

His inactivity is reminding me of his old wolf play and i got the same gut feeling last game with his similar play (and guess what he flipped). It might be a bit early since he hasn't posted anything but i think im comfortable with this vote for now.

Very good post storn.

What did you hope to achieve with this vote? In your brain I'm a wolf when I'm inactive, so were you just gonna ride this vote until EoD if I didn't show up? Were you ever gonna try to push harder with the info you DO have, or were you gonna just rest on your laurels with a "safe" vote until I showed up?

If you sincerely believe in your inactivity vote, why do it well over 12 hours before EoD???