MapleStory

[evilbutterfly]

Wait, does rain's damage* get better as it levels up? Cuz it doesn't say anything in the skill description like several other skills that do get better as they level up. If the only point of having rain is to group vikings, would he really need to pump it up higher if he's not really gonna be attacking with it, but max strafe earlier instead?

EDIT:

* - I meant range there. >___<

[ckj846]

Level 1: MP -18; Basic attack 60%
Level 2: MP -18; Basic attack 65%
Level 3: MP -18; Basic attack 70%
Level 4: MP -18; Basic attack 75%
Level 5: MP -18; Basic attack 80%
Level 6: MP -18; Basic attack 85%
Level 7: MP -18; Basic attack 90%
Level 8: MP -18; Basic attack 95%
Level 9: MP -18; Basic attack 100%
Level 10: MP -18; Basic attack 105%
Level 11: MP -23; Basic attack 110%
Level 12: MP -23; Basic attack 113%
Level 13: MP -23; Basic attack 116%
Level 14: MP -23; Basic attack 119%
Level 15: MP -23; Basic attack 122%
Level 16: MP -23; Basic attack 125%
Level 17: MP -23; Basic attack 128%
Level 18: MP -23; Basic attack 131%
Level 19: MP -23; Basic attack 134%
Level 20: MP -23; Basic attack 137%
Level 21: MP -28; Basic attack 140%
Level 22: MP -28; Basic attack 143%
Level 23: MP -28; Basic attack 146%
Level 24: MP -28; Basic attack 149%
Level 25: MP -28; Basic attack 152%
Level 26: MP -28; Basic attack 154%
Level 27: MP -28; Basic attack 156%
Level 28: MP -28; Basic attack 158%
Level 29: MP -28; Basic attack 159%
Level 30: MP -28; Basic attack 160%

Hidden-street O_O I've seen arrow rain before (and eb you have too in jms) and it is very strong when it is maxed (level 11x ranger girl in jms was doing 6k to each bain with rain). I know I"ll need rain at a high level for vikings but I think I need maxed strafe before maxed rain.
O_o

[banditcom]

I'd say stop puppet at 3 instead of 6. And instead of stopping rain, keep maxing it. You won't need much puppet really. You'll either do spot 1 or 3. Either case, you'll want rain to be maxed.

Also change that build from 15 puppet to 12 and 26 hawk to 29. You'll want 29 and not less for hawk (99%).

So... Looks like this.
70 : 1 Strafe (1)
71 : 3 Strafe (4)
72 : 3 Strafe (7)
73 : 3 Strafe (10)
74 : 3 Strafe (13)
75 : 2 Strafe (15), 1 Puppet (1)
76 : 3 Strafe (18)
77 : 1 Strafe (19), 2 Puppet (3)
78 : 1 Strafe (20), 2 Mortal Blow (2)
79 : 3 Mortal Blow (5)
80 : 3 Arrow Rain (3)
...
89 : 3 Arrow Rain (Max)
90 : 3 Strafe (23)
91 : 3 Strafe (26)
92 : 3 Strafe (29)
93 : 1 Strafe (Max), 2 Mortal Blow (7)
94 : 3 Mortal Blow (10)
95 : 3 Puppet (6)
96 : 3 Mortal Blow (13)
97 : 3 Mortal Blow (16)
98 : 3 Mortal Blow (19)
99 : 1 Mortal Blow (Max), 2 Hawk (2)
100 : 3 Hawk (5)
...
108 : 3 Hawk (Max)
109 : 3 Inferno (3)
...
118 : 3 Inferno (Max)
119 : 3 Puppet (9)
120 : 3 Puppet (12)

There you have it. I suggest hawk before inferno cause you won't go grims for a long time anyways. Plus hawk is quite useful at 99% stun, especially at things like bottom of vikings, GKs, Thanatos.

[evilbutterfly]

I haven't fully explored the viking map, but there are plenty of spots where I can snipe with explosion, and I'm pretty sure arrow rain is close to/the same range as explosion. It'd prolly come in much handier than strafe, really. >__>

[ckj846]

Arrow rain is nowhere near as strong as explosion is EB. I need strafe to do decent damage and that extra 10% (20-30) is about 120-140 damage more per shot of strafe (360 damage overall plus adding in criticals). Like Bandit said earlier on, I really need arrow rain not to kill as much as I need it in order to group and manipulate mobs of monsters. The thing is, I'm not too sure about having only 3 puppet until 9x just because it seems like 10 seconds isn't nearly long enough, especially on a vikings map. If I don't have maxed strafe (and I'm already weak enough as it is) it is going to be even more difficult to kill effectively without stronger puppet/strafe (or a combination of the two) Still not too sure but for now I"ll follow your build bandit and add in points into strafe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPLPstDaxc
O_o

[ProtoMDS]

no one probably cares, but i just hit lvl 55 with a half-day of power training. Didn't know 3 points into FA would make such a big diff.
Anyhoo, I'm going inactive for 2 weeks, Xbow's unavailable for Kerning PQ.

[banditcom]

You won't need much puppet other than a small distraction to get to a safe spot if you fall. You'll be in parties, thus, either in spot 1 or 3. Unless you're in a noob party where you'll be doing 4. You won't do 4 until level 105+. However, you can stop rain at 28 for a little while (158% vs 30s 160%) and get puppet to 5.

Rain is similar to my avenger but a little weaker (160% vs 270% after sp... good formula vs bad formula... 40% chance critical vs 50% chance critical). HOWEVER it's much easier to use, especially when it comes to spot 1 and 4. The range is huge and can hit both platforms in 1 and all 3 in spot 4! It's very nice. It isn't as nice as ice strike /w 11 booster and max amp, but it's still great.

[ckj846]

I was thinking more along the lines of using puppet for other things. Sure, vikings are great exp in parties and all but I just don't have the attention span, nor the will to train in one spot for 30 levels >.< Even now, I fool around with puppet a lot at random spots where the exp isn't great at all (lycans, WWs, lucidias, taurospears) just because it is fun. I haven't "grinded" since my 6x (65-70 in 4 days on spring break >.<) and I don't really plan on doing so. I guess I"ll have to see what level 3 puppet is like before I decide.
O_o

[Tonberry_Kid]

Guys my internet is f*cked up massively and I won't be able to play MS again until I get it fixed.

Which is like Monday =(...

[evilbutterfly]

Arrow rain is nowhere near as strong as explosion is EB.

Neither is Ice Strike. On DTs, explosion is actually 2x as strong (180 base attack vs 90), but Tee outdamages me now because she can cast Strike more than twice before I can cast explosion once. From what I've seen, Rain is even faster than Ice Strike, so yeah...the main thing is that you can sit and shoot rain for a long time from a safe spot and not even worry about getting hurt. Me and Tee both will watch TV while we spam our mob skills from safe spots. It's awesome not having to worry about getting hurt sometimes.

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhVKA...n%20maplestory

Zakum's death. I had never seen a vid that shows him being fully killed, usually just a shot of the battle itself. Check it out. =O!

[SethSquall]

Does anyone know why I never get a confirmation email off these guys.

[evilbutterfly]

I don't know, but you can always request a new confirmation email. Perhaps you typed in the wrong email address by mistake or something? *shrug*

[ckj846]

I've decided to add 2 in puppet and 1 into mb just because I'm poor and I need to conserve mp pots (strafe goes to 32 mp cost next level).
O_o

[SethSquall]

Nah ive tryied that. Definatly the same email address as ive got. I think there like "Oh noes its SethSquall, make sure he never plays this game".

[Afrobean]

Wow.

The dragons in that video seem to just be floating there doing nothing the whole time.

I sure am glad I plan on maxing it.

[B0NK]

i noticed that too, afro

[vashthestampede0987]

I'll get around to leveling guys...just wait until...you all die of old age.

[Squeek]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Wow.

The dragons in that video seem to just be floating there doing nothing the whole time.

I sure am glad I plan on maxing it.

Told you that Dragon is the worst Priest skill ever.

Aside from more than one point in Door.

Srsly, max everything else. Get 20 dragon and 1 door. You won't regret it.

~Squeek

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by MrESqueek

Told you that Dragon is the worst Priest skill ever.

Aside from more than one point in Door.

Srsly, max everything else. Get 20 dragon and 1 door. You won't regret it.

I knew it sucked, but what the video showed is way more than I'd expect. Either way, I already got level 1, and I used it at MDT and it actually works a lot better than in the video. I dunno.

My one gripe is that I thought it took Magic rocks. It actually takes Summoning rocks

[evilbutterfly]

How is the range and attacking speed on dragon? Cuz what I've seen of hawk, I notice it's hard to see the real range, because the hawk's attack animation ends very quickly and half the time I don't notice it's attacked. When I finally saw a vid of hawk, it seemed to attack from farther than it looks when watching somebody in-game. The main gripe I have with it is that its attacks come so slowly.

Also, is the damage Holy or completely neutral? If it's holy, then dragon would be stronger than compo on GPWs and such (both 150 base attack, but it'd get the full 1.5x instead of 1.25x like compo). If it barely attacks every, though, that'd be pretty annoying. It'd help as you run around the map HSing/Blessing/Healing people, cuz you could help them kill stuff without wasting any time.

One last question: Dragon on ropes. Can it be activated on ropes, and will it attack things above/below you while you sit on a rope?

PS: I just realized that Chris and I both used the word "gripe". I don't know if it's because I read him using it and had it on my mind or if I just like the word. o__O

EDIT: I finally did the smart thing and set up an Excel project that will calculate poison's damage on its own. All I do is put in the dmg done to various monsters into the raw data sheet and it calculates the % damage based on that monster's HP and averages them all together and multiplies it by poison's duration-1 (I've looked, and when something is initially poisoned, there is enough of a delay that it doesn't take damage for 1 of the seconds it's poisoned).

So yeah, this'll make my life easier, cuz I won't have to do as many calculations. -___-