Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 - Page 34

**qqwref** · 02-13-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rushyrulz

It confuses me and kinda pisses me off when one judge gives a file a ++ and another gives it a ? in the same batch.

Or when one judge says a file has good patterns and another says it has bad patterns. But what can you do (except always throw out the worst rating)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niala

Nomina Nuda Tenemus.
If you're gonna screen based on music don't let shit like that into the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonid

Nomina Nuda Tenemus is a great song wtf

Game, set, and match.

(For the record, I like NNT.)

who_cares973 · 02-13-2011, 03:30 PM

im just tired of seeing horrible files for noise(terminal 11)

make horrible files for actual songs people

Niala · 02-13-2011, 03:31 PM

Honestly NNT I can't play with the sound on or I'll quit out. I can't physically listen to the intro to that song because I find it disturbing and makes me feel sick.

**championanwar** · 02-13-2011, 03:38 PM

Bong Ra is awesome. . .

justin_ator · 02-13-2011, 05:20 PM

I like NNT. And Terminal 11. >.>
I agree though, the files should be creative and fun...we don't need excessive amounts of dumps in FFR.

**TC_Halogen** · 02-13-2011, 05:21 PM

Breaking News: Halogen isn't going to finish this batch on the first day

!!!!!

**Gundam-Dude** · 02-13-2011, 06:03 PM

**MarioNintendo** · 02-13-2011, 06:04 PM

I don't have a great feeling about my acceptance chances for this batch T_T Please, though, judges, try to go in the same direction as much as possible with your grades.

who_cares973 · 02-13-2011, 07:08 PM

i was planning to finish judging today but once i started i didnt feel like doing it all at once

buizel8888 · 02-13-2011, 07:25 PM

I'm going to take my sweet time with this batch. Will still prolly been done by the end of the week, but yeah.

Just remember, this batch is revenge of the otter. Prepare to be butthurt B)

**Patashu** · 02-13-2011, 08:24 PM

I'm not going to judge until after super meat boy pack is released if anyone's worried about me

Niala · 02-13-2011, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patashu

i'm not going to judge until after super meat boy pack is released if anyone's worried about me

game is so much fun. @_@

**bmah** · 02-14-2011, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qqwref

Or when one judge says a file has good patterns and another says it has bad patterns. But what can you do (except always throw out the worst rating)?

I've been trying to address the issue for a while now. It was the reason why I had the idea of resubmissions being re-judged by the same people. But this ultimately ended up being a failure, because few judges actually reviewed those resubmissions. An ideal solution, but keeping track of resubmissions this way was inconvenient*. So now it's reverted back to the system where resubmissions can be reviewed by any judge, whether they've played it before or not. It's a trade-off between handling the batch more easily vs consistent judging of resubmitted files.

To make up for this, I came up with appeals (which apparently isn't recognized as an official idea yet) if one has been rejected multiple times due to contrasting opinions of the judges (as opposed to technical errors).

*I might take a look at the idea again. I don't think the idea was executed well (resubmits weren't brought to the attention of judges very much), but a revision might make this work.

**jimerax** · 02-14-2011, 04:18 AM

Ok I made a poll for that issue.

- Previous judges should judge the resubmission files again (but only when all judge members are the same with the previous ones.).

Y/N

If majority of judges/step artists here support this, I'll change the system.

who_cares973 · 02-14-2011, 04:23 AM

I have mixed feelings about that.

**kommisar** · 02-14-2011, 05:42 AM

I don't think it's necessary imo

oh nuts i get to judge two of my songs lmao. hi wyde

justin_ator · 02-14-2011, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax

[$] The file is better than the queue'd file that uses completely the same song, and it should be replaced with the old one (there's similarity in difficulty or stepping style).

Shouldn't this be 'replaced with the new one'? Should probably fix this. Just throwing that out there.

**jimerax** · 02-14-2011, 07:33 AM

fixed.

**bmah** · 02-14-2011, 11:56 AM

More importantly, I'd like to hear from the people who are complaining about their files being judged with highly variable results and possible contradictions in opinions. qqwref? rushy? ichlie? Etc. It's the only reason why I made such a proposal. Read the previous pages to hear their concerns.

leonid · 02-14-2011, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimerax

[<] There is already a better file for this song in the queue or in the batch, and the file is not suitable as a V2.
[$] The file is better than the queue'd file that uses completely the same song, and the old one should be replaced with the new one (there's similarity in difficulty or stepping style).

Not an important thing or anything; just wondering why they are not just [<] and [>].

02-13-2011, 03:30 PM	#662
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 im just tired of seeing horrible files for noise(terminal 11) make horrible files for actual songs people __________________

02-13-2011, 03:31 PM	#663
Niala (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fredericton Age: 33 Posts: 1,696	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 Honestly NNT I can't play with the sound on or I'll quit out. I can't physically listen to the intro to that song because I find it disturbing and makes me feel sick.

02-13-2011, 05:20 PM	#665
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 I like NNT. And Terminal 11. >.> I agree though, the files should be creative and fun...we don't need excessive amounts of dumps in FFR. __________________

02-13-2011, 05:21 PM	#666
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 Breaking News: Halogen isn't going to finish this batch on the first day !!!!!

02-13-2011, 06:03 PM	#667
Gundam-Dude `~` Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,327	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 same __________________ (Download My Magnum Opus, Solo Kpop Pack!) My Simfiles (4key & 6key)

02-13-2011, 07:08 PM	#669
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 i was planning to finish judging today but once i started i didnt feel like doing it all at once __________________

02-13-2011, 07:25 PM	#670
buizel8888 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Groton, CT USA Age: 33 Posts: 1,536	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 I'm going to take my sweet time with this batch. Will still prolly been done by the end of the week, but yeah. Just remember, this batch is revenge of the otter. Prepare to be butthurt B) __________________ <%SSH\|Korysar> does anyone else watch pornos for the soundtrack <Mehified> No offense to you tho xd <@Alive> i misunderstood the meaning of shiney instruments and he tole me to calm down <+lurker> if i want porno music <+lurker> i'll listen to the sonic 3 ost <%SSH\|Korysar> LMFAO <sjoecool1991> ahaha

02-13-2011, 08:24 PM	#671
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 I'm not going to judge until after super meat boy pack is released if anyone's worried about me __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

02-14-2011, 04:18 AM	#674
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 Ok I made a poll for that issue. - Previous judges should judge the resubmission files again (but only when all judge members are the same with the previous ones.). Y/N If majority of judges/step artists here support this, I'll change the system.

02-14-2011, 04:23 AM	#675
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 I have mixed feelings about that. __________________

02-14-2011, 05:42 AM	#676
kommisar Dark Chancellor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Moncton, NB Age: 33 Posts: 7,301	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 I don't think it's necessary imo oh nuts i get to judge two of my songs lmao. hi wyde __________________ Last edited by kommisar; 02-14-2011 at 05:49 AM..

02-14-2011, 07:33 AM	#678
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 fixed.

02-14-2011, 11:56 AM	#679
bmah shots FIRED Global Moderator, User Support, Judge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 36 Posts: 8,448	Re: Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2 More importantly, I'd like to hear from the people who are complaining about their files being judged with highly variable results and possible contradictions in opinions. qqwref? rushy? ichlie? Etc. It's the only reason why I made such a proposal. Read the previous pages to hear their concerns.

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