TWC Rules, Policies, Etc.

[rzr]

I didn't call anybody names, I didn't belittle, and I wasn't derogatory. I simply stated my opinions at the time. Regardless, we're not here to debate that issue.

[Oni-Paranoia]

Originally Posted by flawofhumanity

Any exchange of information after death is illegal, bottom line.

where in this SS of Clarinets shows that this was after death? Even with a timestamp it'll only show the time not the date the IMs were sent.
Overall, it seems like a false accusation. unless Clari can prove it was after death.
Council should look into this. Atleast 1 game ban seeems more punishable.

[Oni-Paranoia]

Double post
Was the SS posted like this???
EDIT:this is understandable, if the SS is not presented in this exact manner, then the council is horrible lol?

[Makilaz]

The fact that rzr keeps saying stuff like "don't say anything, or I'll get banned" and "I don't want to be banned" etc. certainly sounds like something illicit is happening.

[Makilaz]

Also, this is the copy of what I was forwarded when it was brought to my attention:

Originally Posted by clarinet89

+LOLNUMBERS (7:57:12 PM): Re: don't say anything or I'll get banned but I gotta tell you somethin. K?
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clarinet898 (7:57:20 PM): ok
rzrstubbedhistoe (7:58:02 PM): Re: i was the magic man. Chose to be seered purple night one.
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clarinet898 (7:58:28 PM): i thought you might have been, since you said that in your death post
rzrstubbedhistoe (8:00:18 PM): Re: yeah. I know wolves but can't say now. Anyway, always guard lito. When he's alive.
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clarinet898 (8:00:51 PM): ok
clarinet898 (8:01:00 PM): but why are you telling me this?
rzrstubbedhistoe (8:01:28 PM): Re: if he dies... Idk.
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rzrstubbedhistoe (8:02:02 PM): Re: cuz we're special humans. Well you are. I was. Don't say anything cuz i don't like being banned

[pntballa18]

i believe he asked for his number to be edited out

[Makilaz]

edited.

[rzr]

I agree, those particular statements do nothing for me. However, I did not make those statements. There is no concrete proof that it happened. I mean, watch:

rzrstubbedhistoe 08:13:25: Sup, ilu?
iluswirl 08:13:56: Not much, you?

It's not hard to fake a conversation. Her's is convincing. I'd make it more convincing, I just don't know the actual colors. It's easy to figure them out, too. Just quote someone with the colors and it'll show you.

[travman301]

Originally Posted by rzr

I agree, those particular statements do nothing for me. However, I did not make those statements. There is no concrete proof that it happened. I mean, watch:

rzrstubbedhistoe 08:13:25: Sup, ilu?
iluswirl 08:13:56: Not much, you?

It's not hard to fake a conversation. Her's is convincing. I'd make it more convincing, I just don't know the actual colors. It's easy to figure them out, too. Just quote someone with the colors and it'll show you.

What possible motivation does she have for faking such a convo?

[rzr]

Grr, Mak, can you take the convo out of quotes? I can't quote it and analyze it if it's already in quotes. Thanks for editing it, though. And thanks, pnt, for reminding.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by travman301

What possible motivation does she have for faking such a convo?

Is my original defense too long? I'll shorten it if you guys want. I said I don't know any motive. I'd ask for one, but she's jump's sister and jump's my friend, I wouldn't want to fight with her and jeopardize my friendship with him.

[flawofhumanity]

Oni, the html file is easy as hell to edit, I've done it on several occasions for the purpose of TWG games. There is literally NO WAY to prove a conversation was 100% real, as there is no way to prove 100% it is not real, but one can generally use common sense to tell. No motive, no evidence besides "it's possible she could have done it!" leads me, personally, to slightly lean towards one side. Guess which.

[DarkManticoreX2]

This is what drew my attention

+LOLNUMBERS (7:57:12 PM): Re: don't say anything or I'll get banned but I gotta tell you somethin. K?
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clarinet898 (7:57:20 PM): ok
rzrstubbedhistoe (7:58:02 PM): Re: i was the magic man. Chose to be seered purple night one.

If it said I am the magic man, then it would imply rzr was living when the convo was held.

The fact that it says i was means he was killed and this is after death.

If the convo happened, It did happen after death. which is why the ban is 2 games.

[jump_the_bullet]

rzr let it go man. just wait out your ban. and dont make my sister out to be a bad person. she has no reason to try to get you banned. i know my sister more than any of you obviously. she doesnt even know how to fake logs im sure. she barely knew what she was doing in the last game. she just wanted to do the right thing. just let it go man.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

This is what drew my attention

+LOLNUMBERS (7:57:12 PM): Re: don't say anything or I'll get banned but I gotta tell you somethin. K?
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clarinet898 (7:57:20 PM): ok
rzrstubbedhistoe (7:58:02 PM): Re: i was the magic man. Chose to be seered purple night one.

If it said I am the magic man, then it would imply rzr was living when the convo was held.

The fact that it says i was means he was killed and this is after death.

If the convo happened, It did happen after death. which is why the ban is 2 games.

The conversation didn't happen, which is what I'm trying to say. How did it switch from my phone number to my screen name? That particular conversation didn't happen. I can map out the events:

I interrogate her.
She slips her role.
I tell the thread I discovered a wolf.
I think the wolves send PM to kill me.
I tell her my role.
I die.
I don't talk to her again.

That's it. I haven't talked to her since night one. There was no "I was the magic man" there was no part of the actual conversation said in past tense. Every event I described happened before I died.


And I'm not dropping it. I calmly waited out until the end of the game. I'm not trying to make your sister out to be a bad person, she's doing that to me.

[jump_the_bullet]

i didnt want to do this man but dont spread lies about her. esp since shes new and we need all the new people we can get right now. this is a MSN log of the night in question. she was keeping me in the loop and was excited for her first game.

also yes i like iCarly STFU

[rzr]

I can't see images. And this isn't your fight. I mean, of course you're going to take her side. Your opinion is biased.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by jump_the_bullet

i didnt want to do this man but dont spread lies about her.

That's exactly what she's doing to me.

esp since shes new and we need all the new people we can get right now.

So, let's get old people unjustifiably banned?

this is a MSN log of the night in question.

Yes, in question. Not "the night that happened," the night in question.

she was keeping me in the loop and was excited for her first game.

How does that explain her doing this to me?

also yes i like iCarly STFU

Images on my phone don't... Show.

[rzr]

Originally Posted by hoochan

im not trying to be a dick

It just comes natural. Besides, I just stopped reading after that.

[rzr]

Who are you trying to impress? I understood when you were getting your kicks from working me up, but I just don't care anymore. You're just wasting your time, man.