TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

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  • MixMasterLar
    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Aug 2006
    • 5401

    #451
    Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

    Currently second place in my bracket for the OT. Doesn't seem like D2 has AAA'd the song yet.

    I might grind it out idk FFR doesn't run as smooth as IIDX does, at least not on my PC.


    Originally posted by Hateandhatred
    tbh most towniest was probably me. I was the least likely to bus, even vs dbp, since there was no apparent strategy with my game. They probably went to dbp to avoid being doctor'd, as they prolly thought a doc would be on my ass.
    Surely you do not believe you where more confirmed town the DBP?
    But since you'll still probably town, I'll just leave it as that. Such a brag is still gross to me though.

    Originally posted by Xiz

    That equinist guy is my top town atm,selfishly like the prods against me d1
    When did that happen? Help me read her better and quote them.

    Originally posted by Svaz
    jessiebessie MVP
    There are nine roles (count them on the first page, nine) that have N1 actions.

    If we believe that Jess is town then yeah, one of them would be a wolf and we gotta thunderdome

    But if Jess is a wolf it is not that unlikely to have had two town roles target DPB I dont think, considering wolves can also roll the tracker and using the tracker on the obvious nightkill is not that bad of a strat. If anything, it causes someone to out themselves to save their skin, and (*quick check*) A muthafukin 8 of those 9 roles have actions past N1....

    Again, I don't have a reason to suspect Jessie. I just think some of you are taking the info as a little too sure though.

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    • Enquisit
      Banned
      • Jul 2019
      • 0

      #452
      Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

      why would this jessie person do that

      we have all the info we need

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      • MixMasterLar
        Beach Bum Extraordinaire
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Aug 2006
        • 5401

        #453
        Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

        All that said, it's still probably a good idea to solve Zenith and Cocoa now and if we determine who they are that'll tell us what Jess is. I think if it is a wolf's trap to have them out themselves that sucks but ignoring the check is more stupid then the risk

        Since Cocoa has votes I'll park one on Zenith

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        • Enquisit
          Banned
          • Jul 2019
          • 0

          #454
          Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

          you talk too much for such flawed conclusions

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          • MixMasterLar
            Beach Bum Extraordinaire
            FFR Simfile Author
            • Aug 2006
            • 5401

            #455
            Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

            Also

            Originally posted by Enquisit
            [tbwg]dragonguy[/tbwg]
            Originally posted by Enquisit
            [twvg]dragonman[/twvg]
            Originally posted by Enquisit
            dragonguy
            Had to quote someone on that third try to see what you where doing wrong, which makes me feel this was legit you not knowing the tags.

            100% understandable for a new player to not know their first vote.

            But in you're actual first vote, you popped off that vote on me pretty quickly without much of a hassle.

            I know, I know, lets just say I'm tunneling too bad and come back to your weird D0 later then. I'm just noting this for this future

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            • MixMasterLar
              Beach Bum Extraordinaire
              FFR Simfile Author
              • Aug 2006
              • 5401

              #456
              Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

              Originally posted by Enquisit
              you talk too much for such flawed conclusions
              By all means, I'll step off stage and let you tear my ass a new one. Go at it!

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              • Enquisit
                Banned
                • Jul 2019
                • 0

                #457
                Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                By all means, I'll step off stage and let you tear my ass a new one. Go at it!
                you are smart enough to figure it out yourself

                why would jessiegirl as wolf try to out dragongirl and zenithman as town? what motivation would be behind that as a wolf play versus a town play, and what's most likely? what is town likely to do in either scenario and what do they need to do?

                once you've answered this, you will understand why going down certain paths is not viable

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                • MixMasterLar
                  Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 5401

                  #458
                  Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

                  Originally posted by Enquisit
                  you are smart enough to figure it out yourself

                  why would jessiegirl as wolf try to out dragongirl and zenithman as town? what motivation would be behind that as a wolf play versus a town play, and what's most likely? what is town likely to do in either scenario and what do they need to do?

                  once you've answered this, you will understand why going down certain paths is not viable
                  OK that's a legit question

                  First off, the wolves would not be trying to out them as towns. You see, the wolves would want to force them to out their roles. The motivation here is to see which roles are the most dangerous to wolves, and those would be nightkilled next.


                  So for example, in a world where Jessie is on the wolf team. They go for the obvious kill (which is not HateandHatred no matter what his ego says) and are confident for one reason or another there is no doctor in the game.

                  They are confident he is getting targeted by trackers/watchers though, but not all roles are equal.

                  We have a watcher N1 only
                  A tracker for N1 and N3
                  2 Jacks for N1, n2 and 3
                  And a bunch of other possibles that clearly didn't happen.

                  If Jessie as wolf pushes that one of the other 2 are wolves, the very likely thing is that both of them will have to claim what they where doing targeting DBP, and are going to get pushed to out their role.

                  With the information, wolves can determine who is more dangerous. For example, the 2 Jack of all Trades are way more dangerous to wolves then that one Watcher who no longer has any actions.

                  Of course the other 2 saw Jessie as well more then likely, but if Jessie made the kill and did her action then it wouldn't prove she's the wolf. It just becomes this big 3 way guessing game.

                  The one flaw you can point to in this is that if the other 2 flip town then that makes Jessie the obvious wolf but, you be surprised how often that type of thing happens if the wolves feel they can get two free days before they have to pay the piper

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                  • MixMasterLar
                    Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 5401

                    #459
                    Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

                    SO to make clear

                    No, not saying Jessie is a wolf. Just not saying that there is a wolf between Zenith and Cocoa and Jessie can still be lying with the possibility of gains

                    They are not trying to out town as town, but town as roles in my hypothetical that may not be real

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                    • MixMasterLar
                      Beach Bum Extraordinaire
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5401

                      #460
                      Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

                      So now, Enquisit, show me the path that is viable

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                      • Enquisit
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2019
                        • 0

                        #461
                        Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

                        Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                        So now, Enquisit, show me the path that is viable
                        to wait

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                        • the sun fan
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 656

                          #462
                          Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

                          lar, I understand that that play is possible
                          I'm actually not even going to consider that world
                          TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                          FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                          • the sun fan
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 656

                            #463
                            Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

                            AAA'd the D5 file
                            gl to anyone else in the official
                            TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                            FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                            • the sun fan
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 656

                              #464
                              Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

                              Originally posted by Enquisit
                              to wait
                              I was under the, probably now mistaken, impression that you were Shadow_God's IRL friend

                              is that the case, or naw
                              TWG Stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                              FFR is a pretty good place somehow.

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                              • Funnygurl555
                                T-Force's Rival
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 1865

                                #465
                                Re: TWG 188: MAD17, Who's Role Is It Anyway? [GAME THREAD]

                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                AAA'd the D5 file
                                gl to anyone else in the official
                                *cries in rust*
                                Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                                is funny eaman?
                                Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
                                Originally posted by the sun fan
                                GET DUNKED FUNNY
                                (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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