Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

[DaBackpack]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

short answer: no

long answer: hell no

[V-Ormix]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

the question is about the greater societal perception of the field as a career, as a pursuit and as a spectacle to watch.

Or is it about a societal perception needing to be greater than it already is?

Clearly some one has to resonate on a particular wave length to view some thing as a spectacle and not ironically falling short of some thing they find impressive even practically in the same degree of cognitive ability.

Its more like people have weird rules for what fits their idea of a true accomplishment although only as weird as others perceive them.

also hold on, whats not mutually exclusive?? Sounds like you have a random bone to pick with my opinion on the topic :P talk about a dead on target of my post.

edit:

I don't understand what you're trying to say by saying "is more respect deserved?? I think not. Respect is some thing that I view as a choice of an individual to give" because those two things aren't mutually exclusive at all.

I think what I was saying can be taken for face value?? I'm under the impression that a thread title such as this was more of curiosity and elaboration on other angles for conversation :v

[Dinglesberry]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

I thought for sure this thread was going to be like a "Rise up oppressed gamers!!!!" meme

eSports are just as valid as real sports

[Dinglesberry]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

at the end of the day you can basically sum up every single thing that the "public/common media" is against or doesn't respect etc as "it would make us less money", in 100% of situations i feel this is true

esports dont have tons of trainers and coaches and shit and they dont have dedicated tv channels etc yet, so theyre perceived as worth less than regular sports

[V-Ormix]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

Some of those drone races they do in stadiums are sick, I had only heard about it for the first time as a concept from a friend but then had seen it on tv at a irish pub and eatery and was like o cool.

[Charu]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

For the question in the thread title, it really depends on what aspect we're respecting in what a video game is.

The question specifically for gamers, however...

It depends on context, but in majority of cases, that's a flat "no" no matter how much you slice it up. Gamers are consumers and hobbyist for the most part. The only way someone labeled as a "gamer" would get respect is if said person is using the title for a good cause. Like charity fundraising or what have you. I don't believe eSports has the same amount of respect outside of a franchise.

For example, would you have respect for a Smash Ultimate top player if you're not interested in competitive Smash?

[choof]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

no

[mi40]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

Do gamblers and lootbox gamblers deserve more respect?

[MixMasterLar]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

I no longer remember what Ludology means

[Dynam0]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

This is a bit of a leading question in that you're subtly inferring that gamers / video games do not earn the amount of respect they deserve.

This is an incredibly subjective discussion and I think we need to use some common sense here. On the one end of the spectrum you have WoW guy from South Park (plus the main characters) who have a toxic nd addictive relationship with games, and many of these stereotypical gamers exist. There's actually a term in Japan for this behaviour - Hikikomori which is becoming more and more prevalent.

The other end of the spectrum is one of balance where video games and gamers take a more hobbyist approach while also earning an education, working, and building a stronger resume so they can be self-sufficient.

In some instances you have gifted gamers and content creators that can actually earn a living solely by playing games. This is akin to becoming drafted by the NBA or some high position that is extremely competitive. You could compare it to winning the lottery, who knows.

Again, common sense thoughts here but I think gamers "earn" their requisite respect so long as they understand that earning a living from gaming is damned rare and they should have another career picked out in the event their Plan A fails.

[Funnygurl555]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

im still out here requesting recognition for watching a Joe Rogan video

[XelNya]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

im still out here requesting recognition for watching a Joe Rogan video

it's ok, the Japanese will have a word for that type of behavior soon

[Walrusizer]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

gamers deserve negative respect and should also probably be kept on a list akin to that of sex offenders

[Coolboyrulez0]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

gamers deserve negative respect and should also probably be kept on a list akin to that of sex offenders

true!
anyone who has even thought about playing a game should be euthanized imo

[awein999]

Re: Do video games and gamers deserve more respect?

i like dynamo's perspective bringing points.

another question is respect from whom? the main stream media? 60+ year olds? video games are still quite new. if someone doesn't understand something there will be a disconnect in general. id be interested to revisit this question when everyone alive was born into the internet age and being old doesn't mean video games are foreign. personally i don't see gamers not getting respect from ppl who understand video games especially during covid