are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vague?

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  • j-rodd123
    End of the road
    • Oct 2006
    • 3692

    #31
    Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu

    Originally posted by komochii
    i mean objectively yea people are worthless and 100% of people will hurt or disrespect others if its in their own best interests or personal gain, but like maybe if we pretend its not the case it wont be
    you have such a sad worldview

    Originally posted by FictionJunction
    wow

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    • choof
      Banned
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Nov 2013
      • 8563

      #32
      Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu

      Originally posted by j-rodd123
      you have such a sad worldview
      i guess it is sad but it's also realistic

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      • xXOpkillerXx
        Forever OP
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Dec 2008
        • 4207

        #33
        Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu

        Originally posted by choof
        i guess it is sad but it's also realistic
        But it's trivial.

        It is not defined to what extent of interest the hurt is meant, and that just voids the whole point of value. For example, one could kill a person for a 5$ bill while another one could only kill if their whole family was in grave danger. And saying people are objectively worthless is true only under the assumption that life has no intrinsic value, which is (afaik) a subjective matter of discussion. So yeah, trivial statements.

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        • Hakulyte
          the Haku
          • Jul 2005
          • 4697

          #34
          Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu

          Anyone can decide the value of anything from their own perspective so, it seems weird to me that you guys would assume other people are worthless.

          Being selfish is part of life because you have to take care of yourself first or else you won't have the health/energy to do anything.

          That doesn't mean you don't care about others. It's just a logical priority.

          There should be room left to invest yourself into others and get something constructive out of it.

          If I met a stranger, I'd be respectful at first to try to get a feel of who they are and if it feels like we're both interested into having a discussion on a similar wavelength, I may eventually just say how I really think about things in a more straightforward manner. It's like layers of politeness/comfort. People do filter what they say and I think it's a mutually understood concept overall because people tend to do this unconsciously.

          If you give respectful/nice vibes to people they may pick up on it. If you have no faith in them, they might pick up on it too. People can kind of read into each others and get a decent idea of what you're about. So, if you're hoping for a specific conversation, you'll have a better chance if you share concerns about it rather than trying to put others on some sort of imaginary pedestral based on how you think they are.

          tl;dr: It's relative to how you want to perceive your own environment and people.

          (lol, I'm kind of saying that ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" are both mutually understood, but also potentially vague because I'm not aware of if this is something everyone would do, but I just assume that's the case.)

          Originally posted by TheThong
          I agree with this. I always treat people with respect initially (like I give everyone the benefit of the doubt), if they're gonna be an asshole - then I won't waste my time/energy on them.

          I have this lady at work (who is in her 50's - not that age matters), that constantly runs around in circles and complains about how busy she is. So I'll give her a hand, and on multiple occasions she will yell at you and say, ' I didn't need your help, why are you young people so disrespectful and trying to take my job '. �� I'm not sure how me helping you to be less stressed is me being disrespectful. ��
          My guess would be that she's more the indirect type and if you help her without asking her, she may be confused by your intentions and say that.
          Last edited by Hakulyte; 08-24-2018, 01:01 PM.

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          • melonpapes
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2014
            • 343

            #35
            Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu

            Originally posted by Celirra
            sometimes i think and try to figure out what i did to garner animosity from people
            then i realize c'est la vie eh
            Cestlavielirra

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            • TheThong
              ♩♪♫♬♭♮♯
              • May 2009
              • 517

              #36
              Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu

              Originally posted by Hakulyte
              My guess would be that she's more the indirect type and if you help her without asking her, she may be confused by your intentions and say that.
              It doesn't matter if you ask if she wants help or not, she refuses it either way. She's the type of person that panics/complains she's busy instead of actually doing the work. Because we work in emergency, it's so important that you work in a team, accept help (I feel like she sees help as being 'weak' + she's already said that myself and other young staff are trying to take her job) and if she's flustering about not doing anything productive, while refusing to accept help, I'm just gonna do it. Cos otherwise things won't get done. Trust me, myself, management and several other staff have called her out on it a million times with no improvement.

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              • Tarlis
                FFR Player
                • Dec 2004
                • 25

                #37
                Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu

                Being nice to me is a way of emotionally showing respect. While showing respect is a systen of using your value system to create intrinsic value for others, and create a logistal loving energy.

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                • rayword45
                  Local Teenage Wastebasket
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 3212

                  #38
                  Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu

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                  • Tarlis
                    FFR Player
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 25

                    #39
                    Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vagu

                    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
                    ouch ok with friends like u maybe celirra will realize constantly and exclusively talking shit behind everyone's back doesn't make him a good person
                    that's why I'm a genie in my bottle.

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                    • Funnygurl555
                      T-Force's Rival
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1865

                      #40
                      Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vague?

                      stop it
                      Originally posted by MixMasterLar
                      is funny eaman?
                      Can you like not use those stupid names right now? Took me long enough to get these screen names straight in my head
                      Originally posted by the sun fan
                      GET DUNKED FUNNY
                      (eaman is her name irl, friend)

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                      • Wiosna
                        for you, eternally
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 158

                        #41
                        Re: are ideas such as "respect" or "being nice" mutually understood, or are they vague?

                        i would like to thank devonin and dabackpack for the good posts

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