Let harder files in ?

[andy-o24]

Originally Posted by redsea

Okay, one second, I hope that you guys understand that I've read the threads youve read about this elitist nonsense; I do not agree with them in any sense. I spent at least 2 years of my life playing strictly dump/vibrate files on SM, I enjoyed them very much! What I am trying to say is some people have goals they would like to attain! Ex double digit av rank or something, and before we swamp the public ranks with 80+ files we should think about how it might change the atmosphere of the game; is that so bad? To be honest I feel like the game is evolving in difficulty as you guys get better and better! Soon FGOs will become FMOs and so on. I've been on this site for a while and have seen the difficulties become what I never could have imagined! It IS a great thing for the game but maybe we should think about making a exclusive option for those who really want this to happen.

What they're saying is that if you are blatantly mashing a file the entire way through, or for most of it (see Death Piano), you should probably play a file of lower difficulty that you can hit accurately. You are free to play any file you want and mash to your heart's content, it's just not the best way to improve.

Also I don't think we can make things tier-exclusive. People are already complaining about FFR cliques and *segregation* (Veteran perks vs. normal users. That word is horrible, but I can't think of a better one). If we add more hard files, they will either be public, or a token. No "Tier 0 Only" category or anything.

-o24

[redsea]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

But why ? Why make the files for us exclusive ? Why couldnt such files have their place in public files

Because frankly the US is too small in relativity to the rest of the players on this site to start loading SM inspired dumpfiles into the game! As songs get harder and more numerous it creates harder requirements for token/skill tokens and you'll never hear the end of it from those " elite" minded FFR players out there! This is why you guys should have an exclusive add on! So you guys can challenge yourselves and other players of your skill level without flooding the ranks with stepfiles noone is going to enjoy playing unless they are d7 plus the harder they get the more illinspired they tend to be..

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by redsea

Because frankly the US is too small in relativity to the rest of the players on this site to start loading SM inspired dumpfiles into the game! As songs get harder and more numerous it creates harder requirements for token/skill tokens and you'll never hear the end of it from those " elite" minded FFR players out there! This is why you guys should have an exclusive add on! So you guys can challenge yourselves and other players of your skill level without flooding the ranks with stepfiles noone is going to enjoy playing unless they are d7 plus the harder they get the more illinspired they tend to be..

Hmm, guess it makes sense. But then again why make them exclusive if all you have to do is not play that file if you don't like it ? (Like any other files you havent reached the skill level for yet)

[andy-o24]

He's talking about it clogging the ranks and making the FC 99% skill token harder. I think.

-o24

[redsea]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

Hmm, guess it makes sense. But then again why make them exclusive if all you have to do is not play that file if you don't like it ? (Like any other files you havent reached the skill level for yet)

This is what I propose: talk to the staff about creating new more difficult songs/files. Have them then collaborate with stepfile artists to create quality steps for D7 players. When a bulk of them come in have the staff create an unlockable d7 genre ingame! This way elitests won't whine about the flooding of difficult files and you guys can have your fun! And the genre will be unlockable as you gain d7 status

Also, I assume these D7 stepfiles would be too difficult for anyone but, this is what you are asking for pretty much. If that is the case there isn't really a point to those in a lower division playing them as you guys will have enough trouble with them lol
And Andy, not exclusively, no.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by redsea

This is what I propose: talk to the staff about create new more difficult songs. Have them then collaborate with stepfile artist to create quality steps for D7 players. When a bulk of them come in have the staff create an unlocksble d7 genre ingame! This way elitests won't whine about the flooding if difficult files and you guys can have your fun! And the genre will be unlocksble as you gain d7 status

And Andy, not exclusively, no.

That's like making a bunch of Unconnected's. It's not the idea I had. By doing that you would still make it exclusive and not public.

[~Zeta~]

Originally Posted by redsea

This is what I propose: talk to the staff about creating new more difficult songs. Have them then collaborate with stepfile artist to create quality steps for D7 players. When a bulk of them come in have the staff create an unlocksble d7 genre ingame! This way elitests won't whine about the flooding if difficult files and you guys can have your fun! And the genre will be unlocksble as you gain d7 status

And Andy, not exclusively, no.

There's prob 20 active D7 people max. Not really competitive there lol. It's not like D7 will be achieved by a ton of people.

[mi40]

i think we should just leave people who make files alone !!!!!!!!!!!!

i also just realized

hard songs are released every official tournament anyways, so who cares

[One Winged Angel]

Someone get Sony blanket permission and we can talk about adding a few midare-style dumps every so often.

Also to give this post some substance, come August (I believe) there will be zero songs in my public levelranks added in the past two years that I haven't AAA'd and weren't part of an Official Tournament...kind of upsetting that mid-high FGO and beyond files are generally only added when a tournament's going on but what are you gonna do.

If players want more 90+ difficulty files, step more 90+ difficulty files well and submit to batch. The bar for acceptance will be raised slightly compared to files of lower difficulty due to aforementioned points (patterns being taken into stricter consideration for playability etc.) but I think that's the best solution to this problem. D6/D7 players should step (or collab?!) to produce some srs high level files that can be added during tourney downtime.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by redsea

This is what I propose: talk to the staff about create new more difficult songs. Have them then collaborate with stepfile artist to create quality steps for D7 players. When a bulk of them come in have the staff create an unlocksble d7 genre ingame! This way elitests won't whine about the flooding if difficult files and you guys can have your fun! And the genre will be unlocksble as you gain d7 status

This seems like a silly idea. I would be against it.

Reason is simple, would create that "elitist" mindset that I'm sure players up there don't want to be labeled as.

[mi40]

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

someone get sony blanket permission and we can talk about adding a few midare-style dumps every so often

i vote what about now as the first

[xXOpkillerXx]

I'm actually trying to step stuff but I'm not good at getting permissions and stuff like that ;/ But yeah I'd definitely be willing to make the effort and step some charts (well at least try to)

[redsea]

Welp, looks like I struck out, haha. Best of luck guys!

[Choofers]

fucking robotomy

[mi40]

free motorboy

[Choofers]

if dp and rato do get made into tokens we need at least one file that can't be AAA'd

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by Choofers

fucking robotomy

Why did I know you would post this hahaha. What difficulty would that be ?

[Shantotto]

If songs are too easy, just play them on rates!
There is plenty of content; no need to hate.
But once you're complete, please don't have a fit,
'cause at the end of the day, you still look like shit!

[hi19hi19]

AJ and I are making a hard file
You guys will love it


Honestly the hard part is just song choice, I enjoy going through FFR permissions and listening to all sorts of songs looking for steppable ones. You have some hits and some misses, in the end it's very difficult to make a file that is technically correct, fun, and very difficult. One of the three tends to suffer.

Related: Despite the fact that I enjoy dumpfiles a lot (and have made quite a few), I've always liked that FFR had no dumps. Keep it legit, please, at least public songs. Tokens can be whatever I guess.

[EzExZeRo7497]

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

If players want more 90+ difficulty files, step more 90+ difficulty files well and submit to batch. The bar for acceptance will be raised slightly compared to files of lower difficulty due to aforementioned points (patterns being taken into stricter consideration for playability etc.) but I think that's the best solution to this problem. D6/D7 players should step (or collab?!) to produce some srs high level files that can be added during tourney downtime.

This, absolutely this. It's very hard to find a song that's actually 90+ material to begin with without making it stupidly retarded (see every swoosh in RATO being 48ths) or have extremely awkward (Jae's Undiscovered Colors, Schmollbluk) patterning to begin with.

I'm all for letting harder files into the public ranks, just that when people send in hard files they're generally either horribly patterned/awkward or just
not layered properly and thus not technically correct. It's just really difficult to make a difficult and fun chart.