Would YOU do drawing requests? - Page 3

NFD · 10-18-2009, 08:02 PM

I'm not good at shading, but I think I could pull my avatar off.

**funmonkey54** · 10-18-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NFD

I'm not good at shading, but I think I could pull my avatar off.

Do it. I really want to see that. It would be pretty cool.

Dr Tran · 10-18-2009, 09:08 PM

half assed attempt of the dragon you posted in profile

just the head because im lazy

**darkshark** · 10-19-2009, 12:33 AM

Mythix, go download ZBrush, It will make your life so much easier.

And no that isn't Swabber, it was some random girl in my class.
I've done drawings of her though.

I can't draw very well with pencil, but with charcoals I'm alright =/

Ps. ZBrush now.

leonid · 10-19-2009, 01:36 AM

btw I used to draw stuff, too.. I doubt my skill is near what you want though lol

**Mythix** · 10-19-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by darkshark

Mythix, go download ZBrush, It will make your life so much easier.

And no that isn't Swabber, it was some random girl in my class.
I've done drawings of her though.

I can't draw very well with pencil, but with charcoals I'm alright =/

Ps. ZBrush now.

We're using mudboax instead of Zbrush. Is there a particular reason everyone vouches for Zbrush instead of mudbox? IMHO mudbox looks easier :S

**Mythix** · 10-19-2009, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Tran

half assed attempt of the dragon you posted in profile

just the head because im lazy

That's exactly what I'm looking for, lines cleaned up and stuff of course, and the dragon in the positions from the front side/side view.

Feel free to PM me if you're interested!

Also darkshark about it being too curvy, we're practising subdivision which is mainly what I want to model a dragon for..

Nice feedback though. leonid you and me appear pretty equal in drawing xD looks abit like my first dragon even though I'm doing tutorials now, the infamous "draw 50 dragons" book.

leonid · 10-19-2009, 02:23 AM

oh I didn't draw patashu's avi =P

Check out my photo page and you'll find a couple of scraps

That being said I want to get back to learn some drawings

Dr Tran · 10-19-2009, 02:27 AM

i'll draw whatever i can but drawing creatures isnt my thing so you'd have to get me reference pictures and i'll do what i can to make profiles from the reference

**Mythix** · 10-19-2009, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Tran

i'll draw whatever i can but drawing creatures isnt my thing so you'd have to get me reference pictures and i'll do what i can to make profiles from the reference

here's a dragon standing, sort of the muscles and stuff I'm looking for

Credits to Rinpoo Chuang for the black dragon and DragonOfThynHeart on Devi~ for the white.

They show sort of what I need visible, allthough I want them in a rather unnatural pose; standing upright instead of crouching on the pictures.

As for the head
Side:

No idea who made the doll, the sketch belongs to Auns.

That gives the big idea though, right?

Dr Tran · 10-19-2009, 04:40 AM

yep

do you want the dragon to look a certain way? if not i plan to just do this one in all the views and stuff

**Mythix** · 10-19-2009, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Tran

yep

do you want the dragon to look a certain way? if not i plan to just do this one in all the views and stuff

Nope, that one is nice and clean, I like it. Allthough I like the epicness of the dragon on first page, the one you drew first... =)

**darkshark** · 10-19-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mythix

IMHO mudbox looks easier :S

Easier = noob

ZBrush has reversible poly mesh subdivision, as well as every painting option you can think of. It's just superior.

And why I say you should be using ZBrush with your model is this;
Create a VERY basic model in 3ds max, I'll boot up my 3ds max and give example pics in a bit, then move the obj file over to Zbrush (mudbox if you really want to) then sculpt out the larger dragon-like details from there, then subdivide, go into more detail, subdivide, more detail, sub etc. Wings would be something you would model separately then attach later on.

I'll try and make a quick example.

**Mythix** · 10-19-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshark

Easier = noob

ZBrush has reversible poly mesh subdivision, as well as every painting option you can think of. It's just superior.

And why I say you should be using ZBrush with your model is this;
Create a VERY basic model in 3ds max, I'll boot up my 3ds max and give example pics in a bit, then move the obj file over to Zbrush (mudbox if you really want to) then sculpt out the larger dragon-like details from there, then subdivide, go into more detail, subdivide, more detail, sub etc. Wings would be something you would model separately then attach later on.

I'll try and make a quick example.

I'll get ZBrush trial and test it just because I believe you. I've seen movies of both mudbox and ZBrush on youtube but as you said yourself it's something I'd have to experience I guess.

Spenner · 10-19-2009, 02:31 PM

ZBrush is amazing. Google ZBrush Central and check out some people's projects.

I'm personally not very used to the software, but in the future I'll definitely be taking the time to become comfortable with it- it's quite a fascinating program.

**darkshark** · 10-19-2009, 05:04 PM

First off I box modeled the dragon, starting with one box, 2 width segments.

Then convert it to an editable poly. and start extruding the sides.
(switched to 3ds max 10, just cause I like the modeling controls better)

Save the model as .obj wherever (export)

OPENZBRUSHBITCHES

and then import your model

Then just subdivide it (ctrl D) and get to work! This part kinda depends on your own artistic level, but after you're satisfied with the details you have, subdivide again, and add more, and so on.

This is about 8 minutes of sculpting

15 mins

Will post more as i continue. Actually nah I think I'm done, but you get the picture.

Dr Tran · 10-19-2009, 07:09 PM

rofl thats awesome

**Mythix** · 10-20-2009, 01:16 AM

LOL I lol'ed so hard at my own stupidity right now!
It only loaded the first picture, this

and I wrote a reply to that, but couldn't post because I lost my internet, hence not loading the other pictures >

I really have to try ZBrush now, I did a human head in mudbox and after changing the skin, the lightning setup was no where as good as the one you have there in ZBrush.

It was good though. Will be testing, thanks.

But I still need the drawings because I'm doing this for class, and it's not an ZBrush assignment (unfortunately) but I will toy with it for decals if I'm happy with my model.

EDIT: Btw that's a happy dragon, lol.

Spenner · 10-20-2009, 04:42 PM

Import it back into 3DS or mudbox or whatever after crafting it in ZBrush.

WHAT ZBRUSH?!?!?? 8)

**Renevatia** · 10-20-2009, 07:56 PM

I can draw lol.

damn you DS you make me wanna zbrush again xD

10-18-2009, 08:02 PM	#41
NFD FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I see us on a beach down in, Mexico Age: 31 Posts: 4,715	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? I'm not good at shading, but I think I could pull my avatar off. __________________

10-18-2009, 09:08 PM	#43
Dr Tran Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,134	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? half assed attempt of the dragon you posted in profile just the head because im lazy

10-19-2009, 12:33 AM	#44
darkshark Nothing. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Pacific Ocean Posts: 4,189	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? Mythix, go download ZBrush, It will make your life so much easier. And no that isn't Swabber, it was some random girl in my class. I've done drawings of her though. I can't draw very well with pencil, but with charcoals I'm alright =/ Ps. ZBrush now. Last edited by darkshark; 10-19-2009 at 12:48 AM..

10-19-2009, 01:36 AM	#45
leonid I am leonid Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MOUNTAIN VIEW Age: 35 Posts: 8,080	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? btw I used to draw stuff, too.. I doubt my skill is near what you want though lol __________________ Proud member of Team No Last edited by leonid; 10-19-2009 at 01:40 AM..

10-19-2009, 02:23 AM	#48
leonid I am leonid Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MOUNTAIN VIEW Age: 35 Posts: 8,080	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? oh I didn't draw patashu's avi =P Check out my photo page and you'll find a couple of scraps That being said I want to get back to learn some drawings __________________ Proud member of Team No

10-19-2009, 02:27 AM	#49
Dr Tran Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,134	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? i'll draw whatever i can but drawing creatures isnt my thing so you'd have to get me reference pictures and i'll do what i can to make profiles from the reference

10-19-2009, 04:40 AM	#51
Dr Tran Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,134	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? yep do you want the dragon to look a certain way? if not i plan to just do this one in all the views and stuff

10-19-2009, 02:31 PM	#55
Spenner Forum User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Age: 31 Posts: 2,396	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? ZBrush is amazing. Google ZBrush Central and check out some people's projects. I'm personally not very used to the software, but in the future I'll definitely be taking the time to become comfortable with it- it's quite a fascinating program. __________________

10-19-2009, 05:04 PM	#56
darkshark Nothing. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Pacific Ocean Posts: 4,189	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? First off I box modeled the dragon, starting with one box, 2 width segments. Then convert it to an editable poly. and start extruding the sides. (switched to 3ds max 10, just cause I like the modeling controls better) Save the model as .obj wherever (export) OPENZBRUSHBITCHES and then import your model Then just subdivide it (ctrl D) and get to work! This part kinda depends on your own artistic level, but after you're satisfied with the details you have, subdivide again, and add more, and so on. This is about 8 minutes of sculpting 15 mins Will post more as i continue. Actually nah I think I'm done, but you get the picture. Last edited by darkshark; 10-19-2009 at 05:50 PM..

10-19-2009, 07:09 PM	#57
Dr Tran Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,134	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? rofl thats awesome

10-20-2009, 01:16 AM	#58
Mythix FFR Veteran Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,045	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? LOL I lol'ed so hard at my own stupidity right now! It only loaded the first picture, this and I wrote a reply to that, but couldn't post because I lost my internet, hence not loading the other pictures > I really have to try ZBrush now, I did a human head in mudbox and after changing the skin, the lightning setup was no where as good as the one you have there in ZBrush. It was good though. Will be testing, thanks. But I still need the drawings because I'm doing this for class, and it's not an ZBrush assignment (unfortunately) but I will toy with it for decals if I'm happy with my model. EDIT: Btw that's a happy dragon, lol. __________________

10-20-2009, 04:42 PM	#59
Spenner Forum User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Age: 31 Posts: 2,396	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? Import it back into 3DS or mudbox or whatever after crafting it in ZBrush. WHAT ZBRUSH?!?!?? 8) __________________

10-20-2009, 07:56 PM	#60
Renevatia FFR Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in your worst nightmere Posts: 555	Re: Would YOU do drawing requests? I can draw lol. damn you DS you make me wanna zbrush again xD __________________ Reminder for self to make new sig.

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