The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) - Page 3

**hi19hi19** · 03-23-2012, 12:42 AM

Wrist-based movements are pretty hard to control. Certainly on the piano I could never trill with my wrist, I have to use my fingers. Keyboards are a little different because they offer less resistance than a piano key, but I still attain my fastest consistent trilling by far with my wrists raised and small finger motions only. The only time I incorporate my wrist is to cheat faster trills- maybe this becomes the norm at higher skill levels?

**Velocity** · 03-23-2012, 01:49 AM

[TeRa] · 03-23-2012, 01:51 AM

that trill is horrifying to look at
i mean it's not even a trill it's just a ton of triplets

that's actually really useful too wow thanks lol

**DossarLX ODI** · 03-23-2012, 01:53 AM

Yup, that's what happens when you have 170 bpm

**Velocity** · 03-23-2012, 01:58 AM

Changed the image a tiny bit to add frame numbers on the notes, since it's hard to judge the distance.

who_cares973 · 03-23-2012, 02:08 AM

I haven't seriously played this file since I've skill boosted. While I don't think I'm capable of sub 150 on the file I do think I can get sub 50 misses and sub 30 boos with a decent conbo

**popsicle_3000** · 03-23-2012, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnr61

Stargroup would just love that his parody scoring file has turned into a greatly appreciated scoring file lmao

never knew it was a parody!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

For those that are wondering: Most people play spread nowadays. The standard angles for spread are absolutely godawful for trilling. Look at how you have to bend your fingers just to hit the keys. You're creating a shitload of unnecessary tension that hinders your speed.

It's one reason why curved key setups help a lot here, but the problem is that they are really awkward to get used to even though they are arguably better for skill improvement (you have to remap some muscle memory so it makes sense with the arrows you are reading).

EDIT: Goddamnit hi19hi19 beat me to it

interesting comparing rubix & dossar's thoughts on that...

**Reincarnate** · 03-23-2012, 02:27 AM

Anyways it would indeed be interesting to see how people do on this file with practice. :P

**gnr61** · 03-23-2012, 02:50 AM

after an sm session sometime i'll do some isolation and give it an honest few runs. ffr's been lagging less than usual (tho i still can't read it that well and i get bogus misses so i won't fc). could be interesting to try and score on this pos haha

**popsicle_3000** · 03-23-2012, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnr61

after an sm session sometime i'll do some isolation and give it an honest few runs. ffr's been lagging less than usual (tho i still can't read it that well and i get bogus misses so i won't fc). could be interesting to try and score on this pos haha

is it lagging on r^2?

**gnr61** · 03-23-2012, 02:58 AM

i just get a bit of a buggy framerate in all the engines, standalone or not. sometimes it fixes itself sometimes not i dont really care haha. more than that though i just get a lot of goods and i refuse to believe i get goods

also i'm pretty sure i split basically ALL my jumps/hands on this laptop which is fine for sm but obviously not for this

i can MA the jumpjacks at the beginning of shash's DP but good/boo the hell out of them in FFR rip

**Reincarnate** · 03-23-2012, 08:08 AM

Velocity: You seriously have no way of finding my old DP replay? Why not? You have RATO/Gigadelic/RAN, right?

**Velocity** · 03-23-2012, 08:10 AM

There is no trace of it anywhere.

Edit: Scratch that, found something by doing something I never thought of before.

**Reincarnate** · 03-23-2012, 08:12 AM

I always thought that FFR held onto a fair number of replays even if you didn't choose to "save" them publicly

**sticklydude** · 03-23-2012, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velocity

Scratch that, found something by doing something I never thought of before.

I don't have the speed to pull off anything in this file.
300+ goods before the first half. Jacks are my worst patterns.
Old habits also make me mess up if I try a concave setup.

**Reincarnate** · 03-23-2012, 08:29 AM

If you can't find it (which totally kills the fun here) I will announce here the truth of the replay soon

**Velocity** · 03-23-2012, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

I always thought that FFR held onto a fair number of replays even if you didn't choose to "save" them publicly

If only keeps them for 24 hours. I got this replay playing now, results in 2 mins.

Edit: it's the 8.1.0.2 run. Sad panda.

who_cares973 · 03-23-2012, 11:55 AM

after actually playing the file and seeing what i have to do/improve on i dont think i'll be capable of what i said earlier lmao 50 misses and 30 boos is doable but i dont think i can break 200 goods

welp back to training

btw subin the ending jump section is just jumptrills with jack transition similar to the ending of accross rooftops iirc

proud of this score

**Herogashix** · 03-23-2012, 04:38 PM

Why do we call it a megatrill when it's not even a trill...

**Mike Weedmark** · 03-23-2012, 05:40 PM

Concave spread is easier to get used to than most people think, I use EFLP.

Dossar can get away with saying almost anything because he has the scores to prove it works, but the fact is, he gets amazing scores in spite of 1.75x linear spread, not because of it. Concave is superior in every single way (and not just for DP) and 1.75 is a pretty bad speedmod for visual PA. Not using either of those things is the only reason my scores are only half-shitty instead of full-shitty.

03-23-2012, 12:42 AM	#41
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) Wrist-based movements are pretty hard to control. Certainly on the piano I could never trill with my wrist, I have to use my fingers. Keyboards are a little different because they offer less resistance than a piano key, but I still attain my fastest consistent trilling by far with my wrists raised and small finger motions only. The only time I incorporate my wrist is to cheat faster trills- maybe this becomes the norm at higher skill levels? __________________

03-23-2012, 01:49 AM	#42
Velocity Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010. Site and Game Administrator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,813	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) Last edited by Velocity; 03-23-2012 at 01:57 AM..

03-23-2012, 01:51 AM	#43
[TeRa] FFR Player Join Date: May 2007 Age: 33 Posts: 9,922	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) that trill is horrifying to look at i mean it's not even a trill it's just a ton of triplets that's actually really useful too wow thanks lol Last edited by [TeRa]; 03-23-2012 at 01:53 AM..

03-23-2012, 01:58 AM	#45
Velocity Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010. Site and Game Administrator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,813	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) Changed the image a tiny bit to add frame numbers on the notes, since it's hard to judge the distance.

03-23-2012, 02:08 AM	#46
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) I haven't seriously played this file since I've skill boosted. While I don't think I'm capable of sub 150 on the file I do think I can get sub 50 misses and sub 30 boos with a decent conbo __________________

03-23-2012, 02:27 AM	#48
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) Anyways it would indeed be interesting to see how people do on this file with practice. :P

03-23-2012, 02:50 AM	#49
gnr61 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: TOKYO STYLE SPEEDCORE, ohio Age: 33 Posts: 7,251	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) after an sm session sometime i'll do some isolation and give it an honest few runs. ffr's been lagging less than usual (tho i still can't read it that well and i get bogus misses so i won't fc). could be interesting to try and score on this pos haha __________________ squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

03-23-2012, 02:58 AM	#51
gnr61 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: TOKYO STYLE SPEEDCORE, ohio Age: 33 Posts: 7,251	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) i just get a bit of a buggy framerate in all the engines, standalone or not. sometimes it fixes itself sometimes not i dont really care haha. more than that though i just get a lot of goods and i refuse to believe i get goods also i'm pretty sure i split basically ALL my jumps/hands on this laptop which is fine for sm but obviously not for this i can MA the jumpjacks at the beginning of shash's DP but good/boo the hell out of them in FFR rip __________________ squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

03-23-2012, 08:08 AM	#52
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) Velocity: You seriously have no way of finding my old DP replay? Why not? You have RATO/Gigadelic/RAN, right?

03-23-2012, 08:10 AM	#53
Velocity Doing the wrong thing the right way since 2010. Site and Game Administrator Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,813	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) There is no trace of it anywhere. Edit: Scratch that, found something by doing something I never thought of before. Last edited by Velocity; 03-23-2012 at 08:15 AM..

03-23-2012, 08:12 AM	#54
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) I always thought that FFR held onto a fair number of replays even if you didn't choose to "save" them publicly

03-23-2012, 08:29 AM	#56
Reincarnate x'); DROP TABLE FFR;-- Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,332	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) If you can't find it (which totally kills the fun here) I will announce here the truth of the replay soon

03-23-2012, 11:55 AM	#58
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) after actually playing the file and seeing what i have to do/improve on i dont think i'll be capable of what i said earlier lmao 50 misses and 30 boos is doable but i dont think i can break 200 goods welp back to training btw subin the ending jump section is just jumptrills with jack transition similar to the ending of accross rooftops iirc proud of this score __________________ Last edited by who_cares973; 03-23-2012 at 12:00 PM..

03-23-2012, 04:38 PM	#59
Herogashix Descension from Heaven Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,180	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) Why do we call it a megatrill when it's not even a trill... __________________

03-23-2012, 05:40 PM	#60
Mike Weedmark FFR Veteran Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London, Ontario Age: 37 Posts: 1,196	Re: The Death Piano Thread (And Why You Are Missing Out) Concave spread is easier to get used to than most people think, I use EFLP. Dossar can get away with saying almost anything because he has the scores to prove it works, but the fact is, he gets amazing scores in spite of 1.75x linear spread, not because of it. Concave is superior in every single way (and not just for DP) and 1.75 is a pretty bad speedmod for visual PA. Not using either of those things is the only reason my scores are only half-shitty instead of full-shitty. Last edited by Mike Weedmark; 03-23-2012 at 05:48 PM..

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