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  • gold stinger
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    #406
    Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

    Originally posted by gold stinger
    I've entertained the idea that Cel/storn could be a possible w/w regarding neighborhoods and possibilities that they could just end up in a w/w neighborhood but I shelved the idea in favor of just focusing on information circulating in how people are defending others and how the role flips for the end of this day phase will shape it.
    Essentially; There's no way to prove whether or not someone is a wolf or town just by being in a neighborhood with someone else and relying on that source of information just because 'you've had relatively good conversations with them' leads to tunneling on the idea that they're town-aligned.

    Focus on whom they are defending/attacking in-thread, and where their votes are going.
    Originally posted by YoshL
    butts.


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    • Charu
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      • Mar 2006
      • 6207

      #407
      Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

      I'm still confused why we need a storm flip now.

      Are we still attached to that idea that something fucky is going on with roles in this game?

      Storn, by all accounts, should be mechanically cleared.


      Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
      Charu the red-nosed Snivy
      Had a very shiny nose
      And if you ever saw it
      You could even say it glows

      All of the other Snivies
      Used to laugh and call him names
      They never let poor Charu
      Join in any Snivy games

      (Click the arrow to see the rest)


      Originally posted by Vendetta21
      All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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      • Charu
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        • Mar 2006
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        #408
        Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

        Like... if this entire business with storn is stemming from backpacks and blinds stripping of power, then I don't know if the same could be said about such a basic one like a wolf performing night kills.

        I'm basing this off of that we, the players, can vote someone here.


        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
        Had a very shiny nose
        And if you ever saw it
        You could even say it glows

        All of the other Snivies
        Used to laugh and call him names
        They never let poor Charu
        Join in any Snivy games

        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


        Originally posted by Vendetta21
        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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        • Charu
          Snivy! Dohoho!
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          • Mar 2006
          • 6207

          #409
          Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

          @ Freezin

          Originally posted by FreezinIce
          @charu

          how you figure that? Explain it to me please cause i dont see it.
          Storm joined this game during the night phase and wolves have to kill via the OP. They can't "nokill".


          Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
          Charu the red-nosed Snivy
          Had a very shiny nose
          And if you ever saw it
          You could even say it glows

          All of the other Snivies
          Used to laugh and call him names
          They never let poor Charu
          Join in any Snivy games

          (Click the arrow to see the rest)


          Originally posted by Vendetta21
          All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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          • storn42
            RIP Storn D0-D0
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            • Jun 2012
            • 3473

            #410
            Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

            Originally posted by Charu
            @ Freezin



            Storm joined this game during the night phase and wolves have to kill via the OP. They can't "nokill".
            .suoicipsus tsom eht si pbd 3 eht fo .siht fo esuaceb syug "wen" 3 eht ta gnikool eb dluohs ew knihT I .urahc sknahT


            Originally posted by Xiz
            "I think storn is town but he doesn't have a shirt on" - Roundbox
            Originally posted by the sun fan
            I have beat my meat to storn's posts no less than four times


            Originally posted by ShadoWolfe


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            • Charu
              Snivy! Dohoho!
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              • Mar 2006
              • 6207

              #411
              Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

              @ Freezin

              Originally posted by FreezinIce
              @charu

              are you kidding me? This is why hes mechanically cleared?

              how do you even know there are wolfkills in the 2nd game?

              tbh i was expecting something a lot more substantial, you should probably stop angleshooting the setup when u dont even know how it works

              i really wouldnt put all my eggs in that basket
              I'm only basing this off of what the OP states and the fact we can still vote.

              Basic game functions I think should be exempted from whatever is preventing the PRs in this game from performing their role since, a wolf performing a night action, is as basic as a function as you can get besides voting.

              If you want to think differently, then fine. It seems players in here seem to be thinking the same wavelength as you are. I'm only commenting on where I stand currently.

              It's pretty annoying that we got PR's here that apparently can't do anything due to whatever fuckery is happening because it's muddling with what I believe should be a simple deduction.


              Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
              Charu the red-nosed Snivy
              Had a very shiny nose
              And if you ever saw it
              You could even say it glows

              All of the other Snivies
              Used to laugh and call him names
              They never let poor Charu
              Join in any Snivy games

              (Click the arrow to see the rest)


              Originally posted by Vendetta21
              All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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              • Charu
                Snivy! Dohoho!
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                • Mar 2006
                • 6207

                #412
                Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                If I'm clearly missing something here that demands for storn's flip, then please, let me know.

                Is it to confirm this fuckery that's going on over in this game? Is it for the sake of wagonomics? Or is it, as some players as of recent are saying, to speed up the game so wolves can get a win in a game where no one knows the fuck is going on?


                Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                Had a very shiny nose
                And if you ever saw it
                You could even say it glows

                All of the other Snivies
                Used to laugh and call him names
                They never let poor Charu
                Join in any Snivy games

                (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                Originally posted by Vendetta21
                All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                • Charu
                  Snivy! Dohoho!
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 6207

                  #413
                  Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                  Though I suppose that last remark is more so for the main game than this game...


                  Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                  Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                  Had a very shiny nose
                  And if you ever saw it
                  You could even say it glows

                  All of the other Snivies
                  Used to laugh and call him names
                  They never let poor Charu
                  Join in any Snivy games

                  (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                  Originally posted by Vendetta21
                  All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                  • Charu
                    Snivy! Dohoho!
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 6207

                    #414
                    Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                    *sigh*

                    I'm still going to say storn is mechanically cleared, but whatever. I'm falling on deaf ears at this point and my reasoning appears to be entirely ignored even though it's written in the OP.

                    I blame the confusion surrounding the PRs in this game being unable to do something this phase.

                    I also blame the host's wording that there's an anti-town here when he warned we shouldn't be flipping ourselves in this game willingly.

                    I'm just going to ride out this game and see how it unfolds now I guess since logic appears to be thrown out the window for this specific game. Main game should absolutely still vote out Ben though, he's way too dirty of a slot and Ben knows it (as he said himself as he self-voted).


                    Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                    Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                    Had a very shiny nose
                    And if you ever saw it
                    You could even say it glows

                    All of the other Snivies
                    Used to laugh and call him names
                    They never let poor Charu
                    Join in any Snivy games

                    (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                    Originally posted by Vendetta21
                    All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                    • Charu
                      Snivy! Dohoho!
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6207

                      #415
                      Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                      If storn flips red, then I honestly have no clue what the hell is the point of this game's existence beyond flipping for the main game if wolves can't do anything here either like the PRs can't.


                      Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                      Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                      Had a very shiny nose
                      And if you ever saw it
                      You could even say it glows

                      All of the other Snivies
                      Used to laugh and call him names
                      They never let poor Charu
                      Join in any Snivy games

                      (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                      Originally posted by Vendetta21
                      All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                      • Charu
                        Snivy! Dohoho!
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6207

                        #416
                        Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                        If you can't tell, I'm a little bit frustrated by it all.


                        Originally posted by JohnRedWolf87
                        Charu the red-nosed Snivy
                        Had a very shiny nose
                        And if you ever saw it
                        You could even say it glows

                        All of the other Snivies
                        Used to laugh and call him names
                        They never let poor Charu
                        Join in any Snivy games

                        (Click the arrow to see the rest)


                        Originally posted by Vendetta21
                        All in all I would say that Charu not only won this game, his play made me reconsider how I play it.

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                        • gold stinger
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                          #417
                          Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                          Originally posted by Charu
                          Storn, by all accounts, should be mechanically cleared.
                          Wrong, they're 'soft cleared'. We don't know if wolves retain their kill power in this game that apparently strips PR's of their abilities and simple deduction leads to wolves being stripped of their ability to perform nightkills as well. If we only retain alignment and not abilities/roles, then wolves will never nightkill in this game.

                          There's at least one wolf in this game by now just by the amount of players currently in this 2nd game and if there's no nightkill with twice the amount of people compared to last night, then we should go forward with the idea that all powers are stripped here.
                          Originally posted by YoshL
                          butts.


                          - Tosh 2014






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                          • gold stinger
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                            #418
                            Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                            There's got to be at least*
                            Originally posted by YoshL
                            butts.


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                            • gold stinger
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                              #419
                              Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                              Originally posted by Charu
                              If storn flips red, then I honestly have no clue what the hell is the point of this game's existence beyond flipping for the main game if wolves can't do anything here either like the PRs can't.
                              If both storn flips green, ben goes here, and then the game ends after night kills I will be absolutely pikachu shocked over how many dominoes had to fall perfectly in-place for the game state to go this far south.
                              Originally posted by YoshL
                              butts.


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                              • gold stinger
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                                #420
                                Re: ymotohciD :daerhT emaG 002 GWT

                                Of course, I am somewhat fairly reserved that it won't just because there's been quite some back-n-forth & resistance on getting storn & ben for both games locked in.
                                Originally posted by YoshL
                                butts.


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