TWG XCIV: Old Blood

[freakysnots]

I don't like this mainly because if I had a day time vigi, I would kill manti right now. Lynching someone he suggested goes against all logic for me and I'm running on no sleep so forgive me. I also foresaw the future. Syhto randomly comes in and does a vote on gun and types "dats rite btch". I'm saving everyone the trouble of waiting for that.

Gun doesn't have a role or else he would totally flip out. He said this whole game that his objective is to "not get lynched". People who received human as their role will understand this doesn't necessarily mean he is a wolf. Assuming I am green, I would do everything possible to not let everybody waste a lynch on myself. Especially if I have no input in the game and busy with life. Same can be said about a wolf though, so manti's strategy of suspecting the most neutral people can only go so far.

There is no way out of this lynch and I can offer no better alternative than to lynch manti. But no one listens to me.

Lynch manti soon. if owa lives for too long, lynch him to confirm meno. don't lynch meno, since its easy for wolves to gamble who a green is. everyone i didn't mention, you guys can go figure that shit out.

Based on the dynamic of this game, it's easy for one wolf member to tell a player like james to act completely retarded in the thread and get away with bandwagoning for free. Keep this in mind as you guys get more info from cardflips.

[freakysnots]

note: when i was wolf with new players who were my teammates, i usually write up a few convos myself and have them copy paste into the thread.

note 2: i'm not a wolf this game, so im sharing this secret with you.

[Gun92]

You are all over the place my friend. What makes it so difficult for you to stick to your guns and not conform. No, I'm not going to claim any roles. You are just setting yourself up to get pushed around later in the game. Do as you will, but you are making a poor choice, especially when a weaker player is on the chopping block that has garnered your suspicions from the word go and who has yet to defend themselves this time or last time. At least I sit here with a level head under what ever pressure you all place on me and defend myself in a pretty solid manor. That's my stance on it.

[freakysnots]

the thing is, syhto hates me and would vote you. i don't think anyone who voted you would switch over and i didn't have any evidence to defend you with. hope you understand.

[freakysnots]

its pretty much a set lynch based on the dynamics of the game. just like how kraut would have been lynched regardless of what i said last phase. sucks i know since half the people don't have their own opinions.

[Gun92]

It is what it is I am afraid. It sucks that half of the people who voted me have no opinion on why I should die and only blindly follow the strong. Look at those who blindly follow while offering nothing in return.

[Gun92]

And also the strong choose to ignore the questions of those they condemn. What a sad game we truly play.

[j-rodd123]

If there's a vig go for viccica or manti

[freakysnots]

i vote vigi on manti. it's harder to lynch him

[j-rodd123]

I don't have a problem with that. There's suspicion on me now so I most likely will survive the night.

Humans--> Meno, freaky, V, owa, me, James
Wolfy--> manti, Vic, tps
Unsure-->Zoshi, syhto

[DarkManticoreX2]

How about we see the cardflip before we determine vigis.

[j-rodd123]

Well duh I'm just assuming by guns post after he's already insta'd that he's human

[DarkManticoreX2]

Also, jeeze you guys lynched gun fast.

[Gun92]

Yeah. Its fascinating that you all kill someone who actually defends themselves and let an absurdly weak and flaky player continue to play who has offered even less than I. I still wish manti would answer the question I gave him two or three pages ago. It really is a shame that it came down to what it did. I won't post any more after this, but good luck to the humans. Hopefully you guys can get the wolves and bring a win to the H. Later.

[freakysnots]

manti wanted to suggest a lynch on someone else rather than zoshi for whatever reason. he could have done viccica, but knew he would gain the support of V and tps if voting for gun.

this was done on purpose for a quick bandwagon against gun. i'm not saying this is wolfish, just saying what happened, and that manti is aware of his influence by voting gun at that point in game.

he makes a good vigi target and a lynch for next phase.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Gun92

Yeah. Its fascinating that you all kill someone who actually defends themselves and let an absurdly weak and flaky player continue to play who has offered even less than I. I still wish manti would answer the question I gave him two or three pages ago. It really is a shame that it came down to what it did. I won't post any more after this, but good luck to the humans. Hopefully you guys can get the wolves and bring a win to the H. Later.

Sorry I went to bed after I made that post. I really wasn't expecting a lynch before I woke up.

When the Kraut x You discussion was happening, you used a lot of really "freindly wording"

Despite telling V several pages back that you find him an annoying player, you opened up this post with such flowery appeasement it was disgusting. Especially at a time where you were being pushed for information.

You retreated into a shell defending yourself, and haven't really shown any inclination to make a push on anyone. This coupled with the fact that you defended Kraut as a human before he was on the chopping block in This Post made me decide to push for you.

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by Gun92

Sorry kraut, points have been made and unfortunately it makes sense. If v is staking his humanity on this, I believe him. That is a bold statement to make that one doesn't make lightly.

That was probably the nail in the coffin for me. The other 3 posts I highlighted from you only support this final conclusion. Jrodd is still on my radar, but I feel good about this vote. I just didn't think an insta would happen so fast, would have liked to have heard some more defensive points from zoshi/gun.

[Gun92]

I would like to point out, aside from the fact I lied about not posting again, I did defend myself. I have/had no problem doing that because I had nothing to hide. I'm sorry my play style isn't as cut throat as yours or V, manti, but that is just how I do things. Kraut was on the fence with me. Like I said, he could have been a human flailing around, or just a really stupid wolf. Turns out the latter was true. Like I said, it is what it is, but I have no idea why a lynch was pushed that fast with that much time and not even really giving me a chance to defend when you all gave zoshi two days to defend and he hasn't bothered defending anything, just jumping on who ever the bandwagon train was visiting next. Weak play.

[freakysnots]

yeah zoshi sucks. he survived 2 lynches based on pure luck

[Tps222]

No such thing as pure luck in a TWG game. The end of today's events will be another great sample of posts to analyze and contrast with the reactions to kraut's death.