TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

[_Zenith_]

Fair enough points from both of you; I don't need to nitpick the both of you after those posts.

I'm even safe to say that you (Tps) aren't going to be a lynchable target for next phase (getting a strong townread from you).

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

How to scumread needs the ability to put a player in the situation of "If they were a wolf, why would they perform such an action" or even "Why would a wolf be impartial about this, or keen on that". You stated that it is oftentimes more scummy (more likely to be a wolf) than not (being town-aligned) to come up with such a situation.

Do not be like Curry and Rice and backpedal on something you said because it will get you killed. (Yes, that is an irrelevant subject but still, don't say you didn't say it because you in fact did).

I have no idea what you're referencing with Curry and Rice.

I stand by my initial statement and never backpedaled from it; just clarified it for you. Your two quoted examples don't apply here. Reuben essentially claimed VT, I called him out saying I don't believe a true VT exists, he said why would he lie about being a wolf if he's a VT because VT's don't have an incentive to lie. He's using circular logic to defend himself from a question that didn't specifically imply that he was a wolf. He took it upon himself to make that clarification and then posit hypothetical thought-experiments. It just seems odd to me.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Tps222

I have no idea what you're referencing with Curry and Rice.

I stand by my initial statement and never backpedaled from it; just clarified it for you. Your two quoted examples don't apply here. Reuben essentially claimed VT, I called him out saying I don't believe a true VT exists, he said why would he lie about being a wolf if he's a VT because VT's don't have an incentive to lie. He's using circular logic to defend himself from a question that didn't specifically imply that he was a wolf. He took it upon himself to make that clarification and then posit hypothetical thought-experiments. It just seems odd to me.

I haven't made one soft or any post referencing the possibility of myself having a role. Are you going to try to disprove that I myself am not just a VT or that I am a lying Town-Aligned PR or a wolf?

The rest of this post comes from a town-mindset so I'm clearing you as of this post.

[Tps222]

Most interested in seeing how this plays out over the night phase; will more people soft-claim an ambiguous one-shot power? Also, should they even claim? What are all of your thoughts on this?

[choof]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Was thinking humans, wolves, and 2nd wolf team

Two wolf teams need to wipe each other out and achieve parity to win or something

wrong, I have no killing power (hence why we only had one night kill)
I am not a wolf
I am not town

ps you were angleshooting with my asking to be modkilled which only gives me more incentive to not help the town

pps I don't believe your claim of one-shot for a second

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I haven't made one soft or any post referencing the possibility of myself having a role. Are you going to try to disprove that I myself am not just a VT or that I am a lying Town-Aligned PR or a wolf?

The rest of this post comes from a town-mindset so I'm clearing you as of this post.

Further explanation on this:

The reason why I haven't said much about my own role is due to wanting to be investigated. There hasn't been one game where I was investigated and either outed or cleared due to it, so I am hopefully forcing an investigation on myself.

The only problem with that is I do not know if that wields detrimental consequences or benefits town in some way.

[choof]

Originally Posted by Tps222

Most interested in seeing how this plays out over the night phase; will more people soft-claim an ambiguous one-shot power? Also, should they even claim? What are all of your thoughts on this?

everyone that soft-claims an ambiguous one-shot is lying to either draw the night-kill or to leave cover for themselves

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by choof

everyone that soft-claims an ambiguous one-shot is lying to either draw the night-kill or to leave cover for themselves

I have to agree with this, I'm opposed to any sort of claims until it is necessary and not arbitrarily outing a potential role saying "Here wolves, kill me" or "Don't kill me, I'll kill you with my role wolves".

[_Zenith_]

I really want V to start talking because it is out of character for him to be this silent regardless of alignment/phase.

[DaBackpack]

Choof I saved your ass

[DaBackpack]

Why did you say there would be two kills choof

[choof]

i didn't say there would be two kills you idiot

[choof]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_comprehension

[Charu]

Originally Posted by choof

I'm suspecting that we'll have at least two deaths during the night
I don't think there's been much interaction so far to help with scumhunting but that ultimately depends on who dies

night starts are weird

You didn't say matter of factly, but ya did mention it.

[Vendetta21]

TPS I started as a pure vanilla townie, people just gave me items because they like me? I guess?

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I really want V to start talking because it is out of character for him to be this silent regardless of alignment/phase.

Really I don't know how many more times I could repeat that I work 13 hour days on the weekends. I got home, checked my PM, posted in the thread and fell asleep. If you want I can cite the maybe nine fucking times saying I can't play on weekends, or maybe you already knew that and you're just fishing.

[Vendetta21]

Anyways no one seemed to offer any advice that hinted at knowing what the items do except storn42 who knew they were drugs. No one said anything that indicated they were good or bad, so I'm assuming they don't know or they don't want me to use them. Also the items were apparently loot able before RB died, so I have consumed them both so no one else can have them.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

so I have consumed them both so no one else can have them.

I hope you get High and mighty.

[choof]

Originally Posted by Charu

You didn't say matter of factly, but ya did mention it.

i never thought that people would be naive enough to believe there would only be one kill but if it makes you feel better to think there is only one killing power in a game that can afford more than that, be my guest

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by choof

i never thought that people would be naive enough to believe there would only be one kill but if it makes you feel better to think there is only one killing power in a game that can afford more than that, be my guest

No shit

What I'm interested in is why you said it

Why did you think "tonight" there would be more than one death