TWG CXXXV: Dichotomy - GAME THREAD

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

Did you read the thread? r
RB got a red seer ON Tokzic.

And choof basically outed himself out as third party.

I more or less skimmed because this is already a really fucked game.

Also do you believe RB or Choof was telling the truth or just bullshitting? I'm more impartial to say RB was bullshitting on numerous occasions, and choof is honestly telling the truth (Choof outed himself as a third-party [SK] and aligned himself with town and still lost) so this is exactly where I see choof pulling the same stunt but no longer caring.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by _Zenith_

I more or less skimmed because this is already a really fucked game.

Also do you believe RB or Choof was telling the truth or just bullshitting? I'm more impartial to say RB was bullshitting on numerous occasions, and choof is honestly telling the truth (Choof outed himself as a third-party [SK] and aligned himself with town and still lost) so this is exactly where I see choof pulling the same stunt but no longer caring.

I mean maybe. But RB posted a pretty legit pm (with flavor text) so I don't think he was lying about that. He could have been wolf aligned... but choof called him a wolf and then said he supplied misinformation to town

[DaBackpack]

For all we know, blue != town necessarily...

But regardless, tokzic is red. And choof isn't "green" and he lied to us so he is not on our side. (He lied to fulfill his own condition)

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I mean maybe. But RB posted a pretty legit pm (with flavor text) so I don't think he was lying about that. He could have been wolf aligned... but choof called him a wolf and then said he supplied misinformation to town

There is something I noticed about Red posting Role PM sentences; specifically there was one that he "quoted" although it doesn't quote directly to said PM so it would only be an assumption that he actually posted legit sentences from his Role PM (at this point he had to in order to be modkilled and banned).

I'm looking at RB's meta and choof confirmed that he flipped blue (or it was jrodd that flipped blue or both), so I would take into consideration that every post excluding role PM posts were 100% bullshit and irrelevant information pertaining the game.

Choof explicitly stating the possibility of him spewing false informative data points in thread confuses the ever living fuck out of me. Why would he openly say that especially after outing himself?

[DaBackpack]

I'll have to think about that

I'm interested in you though, but we can have that talk after night ends...

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I'll have to think about that

I'm interested in you though, but we can have that talk after night ends...

It severely disappoints me to see me not having heat like normal, it feels almost too weird (since I'm used to constantly defending/reading myself and others)

I would be most interested in a talk with you directly since last game and our first game together <3

[mellonxcollie]

EEEEeeeeeeeeeeee guess there is a lot to catch up on already.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

EEEEeeeeeeeeeeee guess there is a lot to catch up on already.

qurl you don't wanna know the half of it

[mellonxcollie]

Dear fucking lord

I seriously have no idea what to make of any of this. RB, you should really know better dude... ;_;

I think I will save most of my thoughts for the day time when I have more information. I liked choof, but now I don't like choof. His asking to be modkilled really rubs me the wrong way... it's just not a fun way to play the game ><

[Tps222]

Don't really blame choof; he made a claim and then RB fucked him on by pasting his PM. Choof has a 3rd party win condition that we now know about.

Can't re-roll like Manti said though, so the game must go on.

I'm also calling bullshit on reuben_tates vanialla townie claim. I don't think anyone in this game is a powerless vanilla townie. It would make sense for him to not know that if he was anything but human (he'd assume VT's exist and try and claim as one).

I think the base human role has a white/black conditional power, most likely in the one-shot format (as previously discussed by DaBackPack).

So right now I want to know why reuben is lying.

[_Zenith_]

Originally Posted by Tps222

Don't really blame choof; he made a claim and then RB fucked him on by pasting his PM. Choof has a 3rd party win condition that we now know about.

Can't re-roll like Manti said though, so the game must go on.

I'm also calling bullshit on reuben_tates vanialla townie claim. I don't think anyone in this game is a powerless vanilla townie. It would make sense for him to not know that if he was anything but human (he'd assume VT's exist and try and claim as one).

I think the base human role has a white/black conditional power, most likely in the one-shot format (as previously discussed by DaBackPack).

So right now I want to know why reuben is lying.

The problem about this is what I bolded and underlined. I'm not disproving that Benguin may be not town-aligned, though there is absolutely no way there are no VTs in this game. If everyone in town has a role; then it'd be way too one-sided towards town which would make the game unbalanced.

Can you refer me to a game where there isn't at least one VT since I have yet to see such a setup?

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by Tps222

Don't really blame choof; he made a claim and then RB fucked him on by pasting his PM. Choof has a 3rd party win condition that we now know about.

IT'S TWG!! getting fucked: the game. come up with something....

So right now I want to know why reuben is lying.

I also feel that it's more likely that Reuben is lying, but I don't see why it would be impossible for a VT to exist given that it is a mystery game and we know absolutely nothing. I don't want to assume that he is for sure lying.

[reuben_tate]

Just woke up. I'm not really liking Zeniths stuff going against Storn...I feel like he's trying to get something out of nothing. Maybe I'm still not awake enough to fully understand your arguments, idk.

Also, regarding tps, if I were a wolf, I would have essentially given up my ability to fakeclaim in the future.

[Tps222]

I didn't say you were a wolf reuben, I said you were lying about being a vanilla townie. I haven't seen anyone claim that yet but you. Everyone has either soft/hard claimed some form of power (RB/Choof/V/DBP) or has displayed some interest in changing/preserving the floor color.

Creating a hypothetical "why would I do this as a wolf" scenario is oftentimes more suspicious than not.

Can anyone else claim that they're a pure vanilla townie? My gut says no. It's not a huge balance issue when the powers are mostly one-shot in nature and divided between white/black phases.

Getting Fucked: The Game is my new favorite TWG title now also.

[DaBackpack]

Totally agree with tps, I was thinking the same thing actually

Everyone prolly has at least one power

[reuben_tate]

I know you didn't say I was a wolf, but I implied it because more times than not, town has no incentive to outright lie.

[DaBackpack]

Since we're gonna talk about game mechanics, I think there are 3 factions. I think choof belongs to a larger party and isn't working alone.

[DaBackpack]

My gut is telling me that zenith might be on this team too, but that's more of a gut thing

[DaBackpack]

Choof DID say something like "there are gonna be 2 kills tonight", and I saved choof so there was only 1.

[DaBackpack]

I don't know if it's safe to operate under this assumption or not, but I thought I'd put that out there