Music Works In Progress Thread

[Zaevod]

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Damn, sometimes I feel like I'm the worst musician in this site. Everyone gets showered with praises while all I get are complaints 99% of the time (when I'm not completely ignored) regardless of my efforts. Sorry, I had to rant...

[Ohaider]

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You should see some of my first tracks

[Zaevod]

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You should see some of my first tracks

Have you seen the breakcore song I posted just now? It sounds good to me. I just don't get some of the complaints, sometimes.

[midnghtraver]

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Have you seen the breakcore song I posted just now? It sounds good to me. I just don't get some of the complaints, sometimes.

Are you sure they're complaints and not constructive criticism? A difference between you and the other artists to which you referred is that you are new at this. And so people are trying to focus specifically on the "bad" (for lack of a better term because there's no such thing as bad music) elements of your track to help you improve. As a new artist you give off the vibe naturally that that's the kind of feedback you want. We all were in the same position as you are at some point. Give it a month, I bet things will have changed by then. Some of the stuff I post gets ignored too, it's really about who's online when you post it, who else has new stuff out, etc...

I hope we aren't making you get down on yourself, I can speak for all of us when I say it isn't our intention.

[Zaevod]

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I hope we aren't making you get down on yourself, I can speak for all of us when I say it isn't our intention.

Thanks. It's just my inferiority complex, I guess. I seriously hope I get to the point where it's no longer obvious I'm a beginner (I often think I'm past that point because I always feel I'm improving a lot with every new song, but then I read some comments and feel as if I'm just every bit as clueless as before)

[Choofers]

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we were all at that point too man, don't sweat it

[Ohaider]

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Have you seen the breakcore song I posted just now? It sounds good to me. I just don't get some of the complaints, sometimes.

The very first song I ever made, I thought was textbook perfection. I even submitted it to MrSuicideSheep's channel on Youtube. I go back and listen now and.......
What was I thinking

Not saying yours is bad, you're really starting to get the hang of it

But the more you produce, the more you realized how much you used to suck, for me atleast haha

[Zaevod]

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The very first song I ever made, I thought was textbook perfection. I even submitted it to MrSuicideSheep's channel on Youtube. I go back and listen now and.......
What was I thinking

Not saying yours is bad, you're really starting to get the hang of it

But the more you produce, the more you realized how much you used to suck, for me atleast haha

Yes, I'm definitely disgusted by mixing in the first version of my 4 first songs, haha. Even with more recent ones, every song pre-Labyrinth of Logic that wasn't remade sounds really incomplete or strange. Still, my frustration usually comes from the fact that I always feel a huge improvement, only to discover it's not nearly as big as it feels to me.

Having a following/some fans would definitely be nice, though :/

[Ohaider]

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It comes with time no matter what, Tristam said it well "Unfortunately there's no other way around it other than thousands of hours of work"

[Zaevod]

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Btw, that .flp would really help XD

Especially if I somehow manage to get classified for the Newgrounds Audio Deathmatch. I'll have to create a new song every 2 weeks and compete with another musician :/

[Choofers]

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start making vgm remixes

even if you think they're bad, remixing vgm helps a lot with learning how to make your stuff sound good

you really don't have to worry about all the things you would worry about if you made an original song

[Frank Munoz]

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start making vgm remixes

even if you think they're bad, remixing vgm helps a lot with learning how to make your stuff sound good

you really don't have to worry about all the things you would worry about if you made an original song

It does help "newcomers" get a feel of how songs/pieces are structured, and guide them on how to really connect their pieces rather than blindly composing at what sounds "cool" to themselves.
Make some 1,4,5's; some 4cp's

The problem isn't creativity, but more of the production.
Once you learn to really utilize the cliche tactics, then nothing can stop you mauahwhwha

Honestly, all of us ffr musicians are still learning and most likely will always be learning.

[Coolboyrulez0]

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Yes, I'm definitely disgusted by mixing in the first version of my 4 first songs, haha. Even with more recent ones, every song pre-Labyrinth of Logic that wasn't remade sounds really incomplete or strange. Still, my frustration usually comes from the fact that I always feel a huge improvement, only to discover it's not nearly as big as it feels to me.

Having a following/some fans would definitely be nice, though :/

As mentioned earlier, music is lifelong learning. I have been "seriously" producing for only 3 years on and off and I still have lots LOTS to learn.
If you need help with production tips esp. regarding breakcore ask me or choofers who I think are the only 2 remaining breakcore producers here.
Also work on making good music, not for the fans. If I am able to create a solid piece of music that sounds good to me, and others, yet I still dont have fans, I still would feel very accomplished.

Here is a tune I made in 2011 that would fit under the breakcore umbrella albeit its very organized and structured in its approach... it's also a VGremix, and like others said thats a great way to learn production.
https://soundcloud.com/cbr/dark-dark-docks
(listening to it in 2013 I could have improved the mix on the pads, drums and pushed the master further hehu)

[Zaevod]

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Nice song! Though I can tell the mixing is not perfect, I wouldn't be able to point out where, specifically.

Hey, CBR, can you listen to Northwing Fury II and tell me specifically what you think needs to be changed, and how?

https://soundcloud.com/zaevod/northwing-fury-ii

I sort of used The Flashbulb as an inspiration for this. Is that a good reference?

[Coolboyrulez0]

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The guitar sounds really cheesy (0:53). It also doesnt really sound full (except the end) and feels buried in the mix.
Try getting NI Guitar Rig 5 and then just messing with that to give your guitar(s) more character... I think it's competing with the lows of the breaks, also.

Personally I don't fully agree with the comments in the other thread but yeah, the processing on the break seems a bit random at parts -- I personally like this except in a few certain parts
(0:40-0:43, the scratch at 0:51, the shuffle stutter at 1:40-1:42 again and wherever these parts repeat)
I also think it's the hi-hat glitching that throws some people off.

Opening bass was neat and I also like the sound of the breaks, nice and stereo. Overall one of your best songs.

Flashbulb is amazing haha by far still most played artist on last.fm so that tells you something.

PS: Additionally try Izotope Trash 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxBKNXe_hOE) and throw that on your breaks. You can shape and distort the breaks sound in really cool ways and the way you process the actual breaks will make it sound really excellent.