Stepmania Simfile Tourney

[lurkerasdf]

sorry guys i've stopped listening to stepable music because all stepable music is ****
there's only one song i want to step and that isn't even available

[Kraezymann]

lurker what song do you want to step? Maybe I can help you find it?

Also, bluearrow had a bye last round, which is why I'm up against him, correct?

I hate how people aren't submitting... I worked really hard on Like a Man and it was pretty much futile lmao now I need to do it again but with a completely different song. I have my fingers crossed for this one. Commencing creation after work tonight.

[Gundam-Dude]

cool freebie

[Patashu]

there was -almost- a dcp singles chart for fenrir so.

[stargroup]

yeah the beginning was kind of gay ass but the ending rap section was hella fun

[gnr61]

fenrir singles can be done well someone mail me a computer

[kommisar[os]]

canadian shipping is too much sry mate

[stargroup]

computer price is too much sry mate

[Kraezymann]

Whos fenrir?

Also, is this tournament based more on how much fun a file is, or how hard it is? I realize that people all have various ideas of what fun is to them, but the DCP is based more on technicality than it is on fun, isn't it? Sorry if this is way off lmao its just been a nagging question at the back of my mind.

My file that I'm working on now is pretty fucin' easy right now lmao I'm having some troubles making it a harder file while still retaining the feel.

EDIT: WOOPS just read the rules and conditions rofl. Guess I'll just have to make it as close as possible as to how I want it... and hope for the best

[stargroup]

yeah ok a tournament based on how hard a file is

that's not stupid at all

of course it's based on fun lmfao what are you thinking

ps dcp is as NON-technical as you can get. you want a technical pack? go play smg2

[gnr61]

dcp has a ton of 'technical' files
if you want a non-'technical' pack try dcmp; dcp2 was showing a lot of promise in becoming a pack concerned more with fun-factor as well.

technicality is still a dumb concept so i'm just gonna keep throwin that out there till it sticks; stop worrying about the technical accuracy of your file because it has nothing to do with anything

[Kraezymann]

Well sorry lol I honestly didn't know.

Now I do. Thank you stargroup for your wonderful information, you are an true hero

[Patashu]

if technicality is a dumb concept explain (all of your files) puppet

[gnr61]

i might've worded differently. technicality in the sense of judging or qualifying simfiles has traditionally been an examination of said file's adherence in most/all situations to the typically-recognized 'fundamentals' of technical accuracy:

-pitch relevance
-layering (1-note per instrument chosen to follow, overlaps create doubles, triples, etc)
-rhythmic accuracy

to break from these fundamentals is referred to as 'erroneous' when judging technicality, when it's not actually the adherence to those rules that inherently makes a file more enjoyable or boosts its merit. when any of those concepts needs to be broken in order to a) better express the music, or b) add (or prevent the loss of) fun value to the file without severely detracting from the expressiveness of the music, they should under any and all circumstances. to detract merit from a simfile because of that would be silly

i'm not saying any of that to give the judges a hard time or anything, because i'm aware that today judges are (i hope) qualifying technical accuracy on the basis of how well the file reflects the music, not strictly the following of those rules. i'm saying it because it's ****ing intimidating to novice steppers to say something like 'we are judging your file based on technical accuracy,' when that shouldn't be something that preoccupies them or interferes with their ability to step the way they want to.

as for my own files, while i toot my own horn a lot for 'rule breaking' and eschewing layering/pr principles in favor of reflecting the music (mid dcp - post dcp mainly), my stepping style is still so rooted in mechanical straight-layering principles that i sometimes find myself making pretty generic over-layered files (ddestiny, oto, sin). still some stuff like loli fishing, doughnuts, night and day, and legend of zelda would be deemed horrifyingly inaccurate by such a simple scale, though, and pretty much any kil file would have the same result despite him being heralded consistently as the greatest stepper of all time


that was probably way longer than necessary...deal w/ it i have a lot of downtime now

[gnr61]

its stepmania semantics for you and i who can interchangeably throw around 'technicality' or 'expressiveness;' but for novice steppers, it's a fear of making "errors," of being docked points for not stepping a very specific, rigid way, which is steering people the wrong way if anyone expects singles to go anywhere further (inb4lurker)

[who_cares973]

good post

[Kil14]

walkpsychosis

[moches]

Originally Posted by stargroup

yeah seriously lurker I'm gonna have to punch you in the face

dragoon's file this time was one of the worst I have played in the last two rounds you should've at least tried

the lower bracket gets freebies, moches almost got knocked out for being stupid, so gundam-dude could've won if he actually tried

what a screwed up round

hey I worked pretty hard on that file

I would like a review though

Originally Posted by gnr61

stepmania dissertation

Originally Posted by gnr61

appendix

two good posts in a row

Originally Posted by Kil14

walkpsychosis

this post wins hands down though

[kommisar[os]]

now now gentlemen....this is stepmania after all


long story short: FUN VALUE IS BASICALLY THE #1 IMPORTANT THING FOR ANY FILE TECHNICALITY IS ONLY A GUIDELINE SO THAT YOUR FILE LOOKS STRUCTURED AND NOT A COMPLETE MESS.

[lurkerasdf]

Originally Posted by gnr61

(inb4lurker)

you called